TURN GOLD COAST TO A PvP ZONE(please)!

Prince_of_all_Pugs · February 2018

Its in cyrodiil, and it would be really cool to have another open world zone. the theme of the gold coast is about murder, its totally fitting!

Gilvoth · February 2018

this would be awesome!
i hope they do this.

VaranisArano · February 2018

Because if there's one thing the PVP bounty hunter addition to the Justice System showed us, its that PVE players like to mix PVP content with their PVE stealing and murdering.

Wait, what?

NightbladeMechanics · February 2018

Would further thin the already tiny PvP population between another zone. You would have to outright replace Sotha or Shor with this zone campaign, and even then you'd end up with the same symptoms of population imbalance occurring there.

Cyrodiil is massive. Are you really tired of every nook and cranny now?

huschdeguddzje · February 2018

Aeph · February 2018

No, there's already too much empty space in Cyrodiil, and the non-CP campaigns already feel like a ghost town, let alone with adding a new PvP area.

Gold Coast is a DLC area so PvP population would be low there also.

There's also no objectives there ie Keeps, Resources etc so it'd have to be entirely remodelled unless it was a totally objctiveless deathmatch type scenario that had no bearing on the rest of Cyrodiil. To be honest unless it was like a small scale, 1v1, 2v2, 1v1v1 Ranked PvP arena in the style of Kvatch arena or something, I do not see how PvP could or should be introduced to Gold Coast.

Prince_of_all_Pugs · February 2018

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

Would further thin the already tiny PvP population between another zone. You would have to outright replace Sotha or Shor with this zone campaign, and even then you'd end up with the same symptoms of population imbalance occurring there.

Cyrodiil is massive. Are you really tired of every nook and cranny now?

YES, some people arent 1vXers, we dont like to hump every rock in cyrodiil.

IZZEFlameLash · February 2018

I believe lore reason not to do so would be that all 3 alliances are pretty much focused on the efforts to rush the Imperial City and take the Ruby Throne. Therefore, the Gold Coast, more or less 2 independent city states by now, are going to be less of a priority to the alliances. I mean, these 3 alliances already have borders to Nibenay area which means no logistics problem. So the Gold Coast area would be of no strategical importance.

And I agree that this will thin out already dwindled pvp population. By then people will still claim that there's still too many empty spaces because it's not populated enough.

laissezfaire · February 2018

It may be best not as an AvA but a place where you would be on your own. That would add a different element.

Vaoh · February 2018

That would be very cool!

ZOS could even make a mode like Fortnite.

• 100 random players thrown into the same zone for mass PvP.
• There’d be a circle that decreases in size every 2min which players must stay inside or they’ll die (stops ppl from avoiding combat/hiding forever).
• Names would be hidden - no unfair teamups or ppl standing around not attacking ppl they know. Maybe even take it farther and have a bunch of set outfits that must be worn so players cannot be distinguished at all.

I’d play that so much lol. Significantly better than current BGs and would prob bring lots of players back. The whole concept fits ESO well and games that do it are very popular atm.

Nermy · February 2018

Vaoh wrote: »

That would be very cool!

ZOS could even make a mode like Fortnite.

• 100 random players thrown into the same zone for mass PvP.
• There’d be a circle that decreases in size every 2min which players must stay inside or they’ll die (stops ppl from avoiding combat/hiding forever).
• Names would be hidden - no unfair teamups or ppl standing around not attacking ppl they know. Maybe even take it farther and have a bunch of set outfits that must be worn so players cannot be distinguished at all.

I’d play that so much lol. Significantly better than current BGs and would prob bring lots of players back. The whole concept fits ESO well and games that do it are very popular atm.

I like it, kind of like PUBG. Maybe this would need a new area, maybe one of the towns from Cyro in it's own wee mini-map.

Prince_of_all_Pugs · February 2018

Vaoh wrote: »

That would be very cool!

ZOS could even make a mode like Fortnite.

• 100 random players thrown into the same zone for mass PvP.
• There’d be a circle that decreases in size every 2min which players must stay inside or they’ll die (stops ppl from avoiding combat/hiding forever).
• Names would be hidden - no unfair teamups or ppl standing around not attacking ppl they know. Maybe even take it farther and have a bunch of set outfits that must be worn so players cannot be distinguished at all.

I’d play that so much lol. Significantly better than current BGs and would prob bring lots of players back. The whole concept fits ESO well and games that do it are very popular atm.

OMG that is the dream right now.

LickingHistSap · February 2018

Oh my god, please no. I love exploring and doing the quests in the Gold Coast, adding PvP would make this as impossible as it is in the Imperial City.

Vaoh · February 2018

LickingHistSap wrote: »

Oh my god, please no. I love exploring and doing the quests in the Gold Coast, adding PvP would make this as impossible as it is in the Imperial City.

The Gold Coast seems like an awesome zone for PvP. Would be great to have both a PvP and PvE version. The chances of that happening are very low though

Subversus · February 2018

As much as I want Gold Coast to be revisited (my favorite zone in game by far), I feel like this would destroy the cyro population. Yay to Gold Coast content though!!!

Prince_of_all_Pugs · February 2018

well if the gold coast would have good loot and resources nodes ,it would bring pver and pvpers alike to go there (like imperial city during its launch). it would help revitalize Pvp. its possible.

caeliusstarbreaker · February 2018

Where is the Gold Coast?

Subversus · February 2018

Prince_of_all_Pugs wrote: »

well if the gold coast would have good loot and resources nodes ,it would bring pver and pvpers alike to go there (like imperial city during its launch). it would help revitalize Pvp. its possible.

"Revitalize pvp" by killing every other form of pvp?

VaranisArano · February 2018

caeliusstarbreaker wrote: »

Where is the Gold Coast?

Its the zone added by the Dark Brotherhood DLC, formerly a region of western Cyrodiil.

rimmidimdim · February 2018

This is a good idea, but others have said it will ruin cyrodill. Maybe that's a good thing, turn cyrodill into a pve zone with new quests and all, like a new chapter we are supposed to get once a year( ain't going to happen). Then make us a new PvP zone, wherever it could be. Cheers.

Prince_of_all_Pugs · February 2018

The whole case that any new pvp content added will kill pvp is toxic and stagnant.

VaranisArano · February 2018

Prince_of_all_Pugs wrote: »

The whole case that any new pvp content added will kill pvp is toxic and stagnant.

I think its more that we can take a look at the Imperial City in order to see the future of any zone that mixes PVE and PVP content.

Wait, the Imperial City is empty of most players except for tel var farmers, achievement hunters, and bankers except during major events?

No, I can't see any problems with making a new mixed PVP and PVE zone. None at all.

LickingHistSap · February 2018

The issue with making it a PvP zone is that it would ruin around 90% of the questlines there, and make it impossible to go through without being ganked by 5 other people. It's much smaller than Cyrodiil, which already has this problem for its questlines ever since they made towns objectives.

SugaComa · February 2018

I think there should be an option where if a player has a bounty another player can attack that player and if they kill them the bounty is given to the player.

So that all the gold the bounty is worth or all they are carrying which ever is lower

Plus all the stolen items they have

Gold coast this would be always on other zones it's optional ... But you have to have it on to attack other

VaranisArano · February 2018

SugaComa wrote: »

I think there should be an option where if a player has a bounty another player can attack that player and if they kill them the bounty is given to the player.

So that all the gold the bounty is worth or all they are carrying which ever is lower

Plus all the stolen items they have

Gold coast this would be always on other zones it's optional ... But you have to have it on to attack other

This suggestion shows up regularly. It was originally a part of the Justice System.

We don't have it because it was widely panned by the PVE playerbase and because ZOS couldn't figure out how to prevent it from being used by griefers.

Also, I point again to the example of the Imperial City, which is designed for a mix of PVE and PVP, which is simply bustling with PVE players...no, wait, its dead empty most of the time. Generally speaking, this is a player base that doesn't want to mix PVP and PVE.

Dominion_Mirages · February 2018

Just no.

SugaComa · February 2018

VaranisArano wrote: »

SugaComa wrote: »

I think there should be an option where if a player has a bounty another player can attack that player and if they kill them the bounty is given to the player.

So that all the gold the bounty is worth or all they are carrying which ever is lower

Plus all the stolen items they have

Gold coast this would be always on other zones it's optional ... But you have to have it on to attack other

This suggestion shows up regularly. It was originally a part of the Justice System.

We don't have it because it was widely panned by the PVE playerbase and because ZOS couldn't figure out how to prevent it from being used by griefers.

Also, I point again to the example of the Imperial City, which is designed for a mix of PVE and PVP, which is simply bustling with PVE players...no, wait, its dead empty most of the time. Generally speaking, this is a player base that doesn't want to mix PVP and PVE.

I get pve players don't want in on the PvP action which why you just simply have option

Player justice on/off

When off you can neither attack or be attacked by players when on you can attack and be attacked by others if you have a bounty

You can't turn it off if you have a bounty to stop exploiting it

It's kind of win for all players

Sevn · February 2018

SugaComa wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

SugaComa wrote: »

I think there should be an option where if a player has a bounty another player can attack that player and if they kill them the bounty is given to the player.

So that all the gold the bounty is worth or all they are carrying which ever is lower

Plus all the stolen items they have

Gold coast this would be always on other zones it's optional ... But you have to have it on to attack other

This suggestion shows up regularly. It was originally a part of the Justice System.

We don't have it because it was widely panned by the PVE playerbase and because ZOS couldn't figure out how to prevent it from being used by griefers.

Also, I point again to the example of the Imperial City, which is designed for a mix of PVE and PVP, which is simply bustling with PVE players...no, wait, its dead empty most of the time. Generally speaking, this is a player base that doesn't want to mix PVP and PVE.

I get pve players don't want in on the PvP action which why you just simply have option

Player justice on/off

When off you can neither attack or be attacked by players when on you can attack and be attacked by others if you have a bounty

You can't turn it off if you have a bounty to stop exploiting it

It's kind of win for all players

This sounds good on paper, but most PvE players wouldn't participate I think. Also, I don't think players understand that killing players with a bounty wouldn't be as easy as they are envisioning. Stealth would act the same as in cyrodiil, meaning you wouldn't be able to even see enemy combatants in stealth like you can now and the BoW would (should) be enabled against them.

NB'S are already well hated for their ganking nature and players who lose to NB'S hate cloak, could you imagine the tears when they are one shotted over and over thinking they are going to get easy kills?

DosPanchos · March 2018

Why hold back on a great idea like this to save servers that no one plays?? Don't make no sense...

Let's do this!

VaranisArano · March 2018

DosPanchos wrote: »

Why hold back on a great idea like this to save servers that no one plays?? Don't make no sense...

Let's do this!

I'd say don't do it because it'll kill the Gold Coast as surely as mixed PVE and PVP killed the Imperial City. Who goes there regularly except dedicated Tel Var farmers, dedicated solo/small group PVPers, and gankers?

MattT1988 · March 2018

If you changed it to a PvP zone, then the players who bought the DLC under the understanding that it was PvE questing zone would rightly feel cheated. So no.