You are late to the party, the addons you mentioned got seriously gutted and aren't worth the performance issues that addons cuse in pvp anymore for anybody who has a brain (and isn't leading, because a big part of those addons is presenting information better to the user, so you don't have to check the map all the time for example or just have a better compass so you can give better directions.... or or or)
Soul Assault snare got seriously nerfed (removed?) on the life patch.
That said I never had issues with it, but I only play healers, I just heal throug...
FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »Isn't obvious what these people want. They all want magicka specs to be removed for all competitive forms of the game. It's pretty funny and sad actually.
GreenhaloX wrote: »FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »Isn't obvious what these people want. They all want magicka specs to be removed for all competitive forms of the game. It's pretty funny and sad actually.
Huh.. what? Nahh..
GreenhaloX wrote: »FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »Isn't obvious what these people want. They all want magicka specs to be removed for all competitive forms of the game. It's pretty funny and sad actually.
Huh.. what? Nahh..
Yeah, why have remove them when they can be weakened down to the level of free AP.
Op you need to give us what type of build youre playing so we can tell you the ways to counter. Instead, youre giving people a sassy attitude
Incap, Leap, DboS are all > Soul Assault. Why does SA cause so much distress for people?
GreenhaloX wrote: »GreenhaloX wrote: »FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »Isn't obvious what these people want. They all want magicka specs to be removed for all competitive forms of the game. It's pretty funny and sad actually.
Huh.. what? Nahh..
Yeah, why have remove them when they can be weakened down to the level of free AP.
Op you need to give us what type of build youre playing so we can tell you the ways to counter. Instead, youre giving people a sassy attitude
Sassy.. what is that? Folks have already commented on the ways to counter it. I run a MagBlade for PvP and not yet made my way in using a restro for the Healing Ward. I'm still on the fence with throwing on restro for the back bar, so dropping in Healing Ward would surely compensate for the poor healing of a NB class abilities. Vigor is really not that good. I have trouble against those using Soul Assault, due to my MagBlade's less-than-favorable healing abilities. I just choose to keep both as damage dealers, currently, as I am able to best quite a few when I run into 1v1 or 1v2 (aside from those throwing the Soul Assault on me) and even more effective during zerg on zerg fights, because I can keep damaging from range with a Lightning or Inferno.
So, there is no way in whatever shape or form I am ever hinting on removing any mag specs. I would rather mag specs get buffed to compensate for those hard-hitting StamDK and StamPlar. No attitude here, by the way. Not sure how you came up with that. I just think Soul Assault is one of the better ult for PvP on 1v1 and no way to call it for anymore nerf. Some peeps may just misread or misunderstood. This is just a conversational thread piece; however, peeps are entitled to think, view or opinionate all they want, as long as everybody is not disrespecting or bashing on others; then it's cool.
I fought a bunch of people using soul assault yesterday. I lost exactly 0 of those fights, including a few nice 1vX situations where I was able to mitigate a soul assault and other ults. It’s a big blue beam, it should tick no more than once on you before you start reacting, by the second tick you should be defending against it.
I fought a bunch of people using soul assault yesterday. I lost exactly 0 of those fights, including a few nice 1vX situations where I was able to mitigate a soul assault and other ults. It’s a big blue beam, it should tick no more than once on you before you start reacting, by the second tick you should be defending against it.
Were you on your Mag warden? If that is the case then it’s a no brainer. I eat SA for breakfast on my mag toons. Just spam harness. For stam it is a different world altogether. The snare removal was meh for me when I heard it was coming because you have to stop everything and block which reduces your speed to nothing anyway. The fact that I take 10-12k damage through block while losing half or more of my stamina pool is what I take issue with. This is in 5 heavy 2 medium with 6 impen and a ton into crit resist.
If you could run an ult that did 10-12k through block OR drained 50-70% of your opponents resources both would have a strong argument for being used. When you add it together it becomes a bit much. I guess we will have to see how the nerf plays out but I feel like it won’t be that big of a deal.
GreenhaloX wrote: »GreenhaloX wrote: »FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »Isn't obvious what these people want. They all want magicka specs to be removed for all competitive forms of the game. It's pretty funny and sad actually.
Huh.. what? Nahh..
Yeah, why have remove them when they can be weakened down to the level of free AP.
Op you need to give us what type of build youre playing so we can tell you the ways to counter. Instead, youre giving people a sassy attitude
Sassy.. what is that? Folks have already commented on the ways to counter it. I run a MagBlade for PvP and not yet made my way in using a restro for the Healing Ward. I'm still on the fence with throwing on restro for the back bar, so dropping in Healing Ward would surely compensate for the poor healing of a NB class abilities. Vigor is really not that good. I have trouble against those using Soul Assault, due to my MagBlade's less-than-favorable healing abilities. I just choose to keep both as damage dealers, currently, as I am able to best quite a few when I run into 1v1 or 1v2 (aside from those throwing the Soul Assault on me) and even more effective during zerg on zerg fights, because I can keep damaging from range with a Lightning or Inferno.
So, there is no way in whatever shape or form I am ever hinting on removing any mag specs. I would rather mag specs get buffed to compensate for those hard-hitting StamDK and StamPlar. No attitude here, by the way. Not sure how you came up with that. I just think Soul Assault is one of the better ult for PvP on 1v1 and no way to call it for anymore nerf. Some peeps may just misread or misunderstood. This is just a conversational thread piece; however, peeps are entitled to think, view or opinionate all they want, as long as everybody is not disrespecting or bashing on others; then it's cool.
GreenhaloX wrote: »GreenhaloX wrote: »FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »Isn't obvious what these people want. They all want magicka specs to be removed for all competitive forms of the game. It's pretty funny and sad actually.
Huh.. what? Nahh..
Yeah, why have remove them when they can be weakened down to the level of free AP.
Op you need to give us what type of build youre playing so we can tell you the ways to counter. Instead, youre giving people a sassy attitude
Sassy.. what is that? Folks have already commented on the ways to counter it. I run a MagBlade for PvP and not yet made my way in using a restro for the Healing Ward. I'm still on the fence with throwing on restro for the back bar, so dropping in Healing Ward would surely compensate for the poor healing of a NB class abilities. Vigor is really not that good. I have trouble against those using Soul Assault, due to my MagBlade's less-than-favorable healing abilities. I just choose to keep both as damage dealers, currently, as I am able to best quite a few when I run into 1v1 or 1v2 (aside from those throwing the Soul Assault on me) and even more effective during zerg on zerg fights, because I can keep damaging from range with a Lightning or Inferno.
So, there is no way in whatever shape or form I am ever hinting on removing any mag specs. I would rather mag specs get buffed to compensate for those hard-hitting StamDK and StamPlar. No attitude here, by the way. Not sure how you came up with that. I just think Soul Assault is one of the better ult for PvP on 1v1 and no way to call it for anymore nerf. Some peeps may just misread or misunderstood. This is just a conversational thread piece; however, peeps are entitled to think, view or opinionate all they want, as long as everybody is not disrespecting or bashing on others; then it's cool.
Poor healing on magNB? Vigor on magNB? No wonder you struggle with Soul Assault.
Waffennacht wrote: »GreenhaloX wrote: »GreenhaloX wrote: »FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »Isn't obvious what these people want. They all want magicka specs to be removed for all competitive forms of the game. It's pretty funny and sad actually.
Huh.. what? Nahh..
Yeah, why have remove them when they can be weakened down to the level of free AP.
Op you need to give us what type of build youre playing so we can tell you the ways to counter. Instead, youre giving people a sassy attitude
Sassy.. what is that? Folks have already commented on the ways to counter it. I run a MagBlade for PvP and not yet made my way in using a restro for the Healing Ward. I'm still on the fence with throwing on restro for the back bar, so dropping in Healing Ward would surely compensate for the poor healing of a NB class abilities. Vigor is really not that good. I have trouble against those using Soul Assault, due to my MagBlade's less-than-favorable healing abilities. I just choose to keep both as damage dealers, currently, as I am able to best quite a few when I run into 1v1 or 1v2 (aside from those throwing the Soul Assault on me) and even more effective during zerg on zerg fights, because I can keep damaging from range with a Lightning or Inferno.
So, there is no way in whatever shape or form I am ever hinting on removing any mag specs. I would rather mag specs get buffed to compensate for those hard-hitting StamDK and StamPlar. No attitude here, by the way. Not sure how you came up with that. I just think Soul Assault is one of the better ult for PvP on 1v1 and no way to call it for anymore nerf. Some peeps may just misread or misunderstood. This is just a conversational thread piece; however, peeps are entitled to think, view or opinionate all they want, as long as everybody is not disrespecting or bashing on others; then it's cool.
Poor healing on magNB? Vigor on magNB? No wonder you struggle with Soul Assault.
This so much, I couldn't let the truth just slide by.
This is whom makes nerf threads.
Using a Stam ability on a mag too, stats are wrong, wouldn't be surprised at all if some points are in health and Stam, CP probably all over the place, running x6 of a set.
I hate saying L2P, because it doesn't help.
So OP, check out some NB guides, it'll do you a world of good to see how a NB build is made, you may find that NB is not the correct class for you.
I think too many players pick NB. It's a very unforgiving class, it's very good but requires a very good player to do as well as it can
GreenhaloX wrote: »Soul Assault is brutal and has to be the best PvP ult for 1-on-1. I have been hit by damages from 12-19k with that alone. You don't see that numbers from meteor or the destro ult (unless the destro ult is stacked by multiple toons; but you can avoid/roll out of the desto ult, even the Eye of the Flame.) Since on console where you don't have an add-on to tell you when to block or when to dodge roll (which I am contend that these type of add-ons should not be allowed; it's kind of like permissive cheating there), it is very difficult to know when it is coming. Thus, it is very difficult to block or dodge a Soul Assault blast; basically, you can't. It is like it doesn't matter what build/setup you have or how much resistance you can pile on, once you get hit by one, you know the end is rapidly near. Even while blocking, my hp just drains like an open faucet. Oh, don't nerf Soul Assault. I want one. I think everyone should slot one on their bar. That would be a cool sight just seeing everybody blasting away at each other with Soul Assault. That would be a fair fight; whoever is the first to pop it would surely win.