starkerealm wrote: »awesomepicks4231 wrote: »The fact of the matter is that The Withered Tree is a major hub for RP, which almost all of my friends use. Not only that, but I've had him find his way into Ald'Ruhn while i was RP'ing there, aswell as in the Ebony Flask. ZOS needs to do something about this. I'm sick of having to have to move where I RP to accommodate someone who can't understand how to be a decent human being.
*Checks to verify that The Withered Tree is in Riften.* Yep. PvPers.
awesomepicks4231 wrote: »
If they keep crashing the game by how many particles are put on screen, how can I ignore them?
awesomepicks4231 wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »awesomepicks4231 wrote: »The fact of the matter is that The Withered Tree is a major hub for RP, which almost all of my friends use. Not only that, but I've had him find his way into Ald'Ruhn while i was RP'ing there, aswell as in the Ebony Flask. ZOS needs to do something about this. I'm sick of having to have to move where I RP to accommodate someone who can't understand how to be a decent human being.
*Checks to verify that The Withered Tree is in Riften.* Yep. PvPers.
I've already had one post closed for naming the person, so i won't go doing that. But According to people I've spoken to, he has in the past been emperor [he has the emperors regalia after all].
f047ys3v3n wrote: »awesomepicks4231 wrote: »
If they keep crashing the game by how many particles are put on screen, how can I ignore them?
You can limit the number of particle effects in your menu options. This should fix the crashing issue. You really shouldn't have more than 1k effects on a good rig. If your rig is less good, do less.
As for the A-holes. Sorry about that man. In an mmo with no in-game mods and that has gone so far as to ignore the fact that a significant number of their players are cheating using 3rd party software I don't think you can expect much help.
I have only ever heard of a few perma-bans going out. One was for embarrassing ZOS in game (the meteor spammers who showed every casual in the world that cheating was a huge thing.) ZOS just dosen't generally do much in regards to punishing bad behavior. If you can get them all to where white hoods while they berate you they might get banned. I remember some guild pretending to lynch people that got ZOS to ban them (and also to disallow all white outfits with hoods game wide and threaten all players who happened to be wearing white with hoods.)
Sorry they are messing up you RP. Look on the bright side. ZOS made hundreds of houses that you can buy for only a small fortune to RP unmolested in.
I often RP with a buddy and we are usually grouped and chat in the group chat - or whispers if there are only the 2 of us. We've occasionally been stared at or laughed at, but we simply ignore them. If they persist we relocate to one of our houses.
Give trolls a reaction and they will come back for more, expecting you to entertain them. Ignore them or disappear to somewhere else quietly and they will quickly get bored.
This game might be rated 'mature', but there is no accounting for immature trolls playing it.
starkerealm wrote: »awesomepicks4231 wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »awesomepicks4231 wrote: »The fact of the matter is that The Withered Tree is a major hub for RP, which almost all of my friends use. Not only that, but I've had him find his way into Ald'Ruhn while i was RP'ing there, aswell as in the Ebony Flask. ZOS needs to do something about this. I'm sick of having to have to move where I RP to accommodate someone who can't understand how to be a decent human being.
*Checks to verify that The Withered Tree is in Riften.* Yep. PvPers.
I've already had one post closed for naming the person, so i won't go doing that. But According to people I've spoken to, he has in the past been emperor [he has the emperors regalia after all].
Yeah, I almost named the guild, then remembered. Also, yes, because these are hardcore PvPers, they will follow you to Morrowind. Getting out into the other DLC spaces may be safer, but still.
awesomepicks4231 wrote: »Him using homophobic slurs.
starkerealm wrote: »awesomepicks4231 wrote: »Him using homophobic slurs.
And this is actionable. Unfortunately, if it came in with dozens of other tickets, nothing will be done, because it got lost in the noise.
awesomepicks4231 wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »awesomepicks4231 wrote: »Just ignore them, and they will go away when they realize they can't get a response from you. And in the meantime, keep taking videos and submitting reports. When you get the email confirming your report, reply to it with the video attached. Make sure the names are visible in the videos.
If they keep crashing the game by how many particles are put on screen, how can I ignore them?
Or pick up and go someplace else. Unless you're in a guild with them, they don't know where you go on the other side of a wayshrine.
And, don't do the thing I remember seeing some RPers do a few years ago, where they announced to each other in /say where they were going before they left, and then, later, were wondering how the trolls found them.
Sorry, are you suggesting that I should have to cater to them? because it sounds a lot like you're suggesting that I should have to hide from public spaces to RP, which is something I will not do in this mmoRPg
DieAlteHexe wrote: »awesomepicks4231 wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »awesomepicks4231 wrote: »Just ignore them, and they will go away when they realize they can't get a response from you. And in the meantime, keep taking videos and submitting reports. When you get the email confirming your report, reply to it with the video attached. Make sure the names are visible in the videos.
If they keep crashing the game by how many particles are put on screen, how can I ignore them?
Or pick up and go someplace else. Unless you're in a guild with them, they don't know where you go on the other side of a wayshrine.
And, don't do the thing I remember seeing some RPers do a few years ago, where they announced to each other in /say where they were going before they left, and then, later, were wondering how the trolls found them.
Sorry, are you suggesting that I should have to cater to them? because it sounds a lot like you're suggesting that I should have to hide from public spaces to RP, which is something I will not do in this mmoRPg
We cannot change the way others act. We can change how we react to them.
Move on, ignore because any interaction with them is simply gratifying their behaviour and giving them what they want.
Don't.
Thannazzar wrote: »If zos are doing nothibg then just buy a homestead. Decorate it as a tavern and only invite those you want to be there. Easy.
awesomepicks4231 wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »awesomepicks4231 wrote: »Him using homophobic slurs.
And this is actionable. Unfortunately, if it came in with dozens of other tickets, nothing will be done, because it got lost in the noise.
That was when i was only putting in one ticket for him, and it had screenshots. Apparently support didn't think it was actionable because the ticket was closed two days later, and he was still in game
Thins entire thread is like the ultimate tutorial on RolePlaying. Everything from etiquette to rules are being listed. Bruh-Bruh has the fundamentals on hand like a college professor.
Thank you for this insightful thread, OP. I again apologize that you have been mistreated my members of the community, but would like to thank you on putting us in the game (RolePlaying).
starkerealm wrote: »awesomepicks4231 wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »awesomepicks4231 wrote: »Him using homophobic slurs.
And this is actionable. Unfortunately, if it came in with dozens of other tickets, nothing will be done, because it got lost in the noise.
That was when i was only putting in one ticket for him, and it had screenshots. Apparently support didn't think it was actionable because the ticket was closed two days later, and he was still in game
At this point, it's also worth remembering the bit I pointed out earlier about the RP community. Obviously, I don't have the numbers, but there are a lot of false reports generated, which just adds to the noise. Hell, like I said, I know I've been reported by RPers for being in the wrong place at the wrong time, and, anecdotally, I know I'm not alone here.
It happened because some members of the community are irrationally territorial. That's not on you, and it doesn't make it okay, but it does create a, "crying wolf," effect in aggregate, which sucks.
awesomepicks4231 wrote: »DieAlteHexe wrote: »awesomepicks4231 wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »awesomepicks4231 wrote: »Just ignore them, and they will go away when they realize they can't get a response from you. And in the meantime, keep taking videos and submitting reports. When you get the email confirming your report, reply to it with the video attached. Make sure the names are visible in the videos.
If they keep crashing the game by how many particles are put on screen, how can I ignore them?
Or pick up and go someplace else. Unless you're in a guild with them, they don't know where you go on the other side of a wayshrine.
And, don't do the thing I remember seeing some RPers do a few years ago, where they announced to each other in /say where they were going before they left, and then, later, were wondering how the trolls found them.
Sorry, are you suggesting that I should have to cater to them? because it sounds a lot like you're suggesting that I should have to hide from public spaces to RP, which is something I will not do in this mmoRPg
We cannot change the way others act. We can change how we react to them.
Move on, ignore because any interaction with them is simply gratifying their behaviour and giving them what they want.
Don't.Thannazzar wrote: »If zos are doing nothibg then just buy a homestead. Decorate it as a tavern and only invite those you want to be there. Easy.
Both of you missed the point. I already have homesteads. I already use them if i want to do private events. But if someone is crossing the line into harrassment when i'm RP'ing in a tavern, where nobody is being forced to read posts or even be there (there are a total of 2 small sidequests picked up in the withered tree.
If this were any other ToS violation, i wouldn't have to consistantly face this indicidual and his guild of trolls go out of their way to target me if i'm there. It's unacceptable that this is allowed t happen, even with screenshot evidence of him using homophobic slurs and videos of him spamming abilities at me to make the game unpleasent for me to play.
Is that finally clear?
DieAlteHexe wrote: »awesomepicks4231 wrote: »DieAlteHexe wrote: »awesomepicks4231 wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »awesomepicks4231 wrote: »Just ignore them, and they will go away when they realize they can't get a response from you. And in the meantime, keep taking videos and submitting reports. When you get the email confirming your report, reply to it with the video attached. Make sure the names are visible in the videos.
If they keep crashing the game by how many particles are put on screen, how can I ignore them?
Or pick up and go someplace else. Unless you're in a guild with them, they don't know where you go on the other side of a wayshrine.
And, don't do the thing I remember seeing some RPers do a few years ago, where they announced to each other in /say where they were going before they left, and then, later, were wondering how the trolls found them.
Sorry, are you suggesting that I should have to cater to them? because it sounds a lot like you're suggesting that I should have to hide from public spaces to RP, which is something I will not do in this mmoRPg
We cannot change the way others act. We can change how we react to them.
Move on, ignore because any interaction with them is simply gratifying their behaviour and giving them what they want.
Don't.Thannazzar wrote: »If zos are doing nothibg then just buy a homestead. Decorate it as a tavern and only invite those you want to be there. Easy.
Both of you missed the point. I already have homesteads. I already use them if i want to do private events. But if someone is crossing the line into harrassment when i'm RP'ing in a tavern, where nobody is being forced to read posts or even be there (there are a total of 2 small sidequests picked up in the withered tree.
If this were any other ToS violation, i wouldn't have to consistantly face this indicidual and his guild of trolls go out of their way to target me if i'm there. It's unacceptable that this is allowed t happen, even with screenshot evidence of him using homophobic slurs and videos of him spamming abilities at me to make the game unpleasent for me to play.
Is that finally clear?
Don't confuse disagreement with "missing the point".
The point here is that unless and until ZMax does something about it, taking the "high road" is just going to ruin YOUR fun, and increase theirs. Now, if that's what you want to do whilst standing on high principles, that's fine, your choice but when there are alternatives that you won't consider, then you are making a choice that just upsets you.
It’s a shame that others single you out to annoy you and ruin your experience.
However I think its a good thing that they dont just simply ban other players for getting reported.
They need proof i guess.
Banning is and always should be a last resort kinda thing.
And tbh if you report many times for a year on end chances are they just think “oh this guy/girl again”.
Also you are catering to their wishes by staying in the same cavern IMO.
I hope you find a better peacefull place for playing how you want.
awesomepicks4231 wrote: »DieAlteHexe wrote: »awesomepicks4231 wrote: »DieAlteHexe wrote: »awesomepicks4231 wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »awesomepicks4231 wrote: »Just ignore them, and they will go away when they realize they can't get a response from you. And in the meantime, keep taking videos and submitting reports. When you get the email confirming your report, reply to it with the video attached. Make sure the names are visible in the videos.
If they keep crashing the game by how many particles are put on screen, how can I ignore them?
Or pick up and go someplace else. Unless you're in a guild with them, they don't know where you go on the other side of a wayshrine.
And, don't do the thing I remember seeing some RPers do a few years ago, where they announced to each other in /say where they were going before they left, and then, later, were wondering how the trolls found them.
Sorry, are you suggesting that I should have to cater to them? because it sounds a lot like you're suggesting that I should have to hide from public spaces to RP, which is something I will not do in this mmoRPg
We cannot change the way others act. We can change how we react to them.
Move on, ignore because any interaction with them is simply gratifying their behaviour and giving them what they want.
Don't.Thannazzar wrote: »If zos are doing nothibg then just buy a homestead. Decorate it as a tavern and only invite those you want to be there. Easy.
Both of you missed the point. I already have homesteads. I already use them if i want to do private events. But if someone is crossing the line into harrassment when i'm RP'ing in a tavern, where nobody is being forced to read posts or even be there (there are a total of 2 small sidequests picked up in the withered tree.
If this were any other ToS violation, i wouldn't have to consistantly face this indicidual and his guild of trolls go out of their way to target me if i'm there. It's unacceptable that this is allowed t happen, even with screenshot evidence of him using homophobic slurs and videos of him spamming abilities at me to make the game unpleasent for me to play.
Is that finally clear?
Don't confuse disagreement with "missing the point".
The point here is that unless and until ZMax does something about it, taking the "high road" is just going to ruin YOUR fun, and increase theirs. Now, if that's what you want to do whilst standing on high principles, that's fine, your choice but when there are alternatives that you won't consider, then you are making a choice that just upsets you.
Sorry you're suggesting that i sould put aside my ability to enjoy the game i've bought and payed for to appease someone who has literally used homophobic slurs to attack me? Someone who literally has found his way to public events i've attended to harass me?
awesomepicks4231 wrote: »Hey here's a fun question for the mods, why is it that the people I've been reporting for years [who I'll add have not only called me a *** in whispers, but actively go out of their way to find me when I'm roleplaying and spam fire abilities and mudballs at me]] still have their accounts? What is the report function even there for if nothing is ever done about it? I've provided screenshots and video of everything and NOTHING is done by you people.
Not trying to play devil's advocate here, but you realize you keep saying some version of the above?awesomepicks4231 wrote: »DieAlteHexe wrote: »awesomepicks4231 wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »awesomepicks4231 wrote: »Just ignore them, and they will go away when they realize they can't get a response from you. And in the meantime, keep taking videos and submitting reports. When you get the email confirming your report, reply to it with the video attached. Make sure the names are visible in the videos.
If they keep crashing the game by how many particles are put on screen, how can I ignore them?
Or pick up and go someplace else. Unless you're in a guild with them, they don't know where you go on the other side of a wayshrine.
And, don't do the thing I remember seeing some RPers do a few years ago, where they announced to each other in /say where they were going before they left, and then, later, were wondering how the trolls found them.
Sorry, are you suggesting that I should have to cater to them? because it sounds a lot like you're suggesting that I should have to hide from public spaces to RP, which is something I will not do in this mmoRPg
We cannot change the way others act. We can change how we react to them.
Move on, ignore because any interaction with them is simply gratifying their behaviour and giving them what they want.
Don't.Thannazzar wrote: »If zos are doing nothibg then just buy a homestead. Decorate it as a tavern and only invite those you want to be there. Easy.
Both of you missed the point. I already have homesteads. I already use them if i want to do private events. But if someone is crossing the line into harrassment when i'm RP'ing in a tavern, where nobody is being forced to read posts or even be there (there are a total of 2 small sidequests picked up in the withered tree.
If this were any other ToS violation, i wouldn't have to consistantly face this indicidual and his guild of trolls go out of their way to target me if i'm there. It's unacceptable that this is allowed t happen, even with screenshot evidence of him using homophobic slurs and videos of him spamming abilities at me to make the game unpleasent for me to play.
Is that finally clear?
starkerealm wrote: »If they're harassing you in whispers, report that.
That said, if you're reporting them for simply being in the tavern... that's another story. I vaguely remember someone threatening to report me for crafting food and BSing in zone once, because I was "disrupting their experience." Stuff like that... you've got to know that they will retaliate. Context is important.
...griefed by mudballs...
awesomepicks4231 wrote: »I've provided screenshots and video of everything and NOTHING is done by you people.