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Mechanical Acuity set is underpowered!
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SodanTok✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Ep1kMalware wrote: »silver1surfer69 wrote: »The cooldown is way to long and the duration is to short. Something like 8 sec duration and 12 maybe 15 sec cooldown (when i try not to be greedy). But like this it gives me almost no advantage. I get 2 maybe 3 hits in when it procs. Like this i think in some time there will almost be nobody left still using it. What you think?
I do not think the set is underpowered. Sure in PvE you will not see it being used that much. However, I use it on one of my Builds in werewolf form. The burst that this set allows you to pull out is completely insane. Damage and healing all crit for 5s. Maybe they could extend the duration to 6s or reduce the cooldown to like 15s or something like that. But I do not think they will touch that set for now.
You can also track the buff and combine your Ulti with other damage abilties that all crit. Buffing it would be very dangerous in my opinion.
The build I was talking about can be found here:
Written Guide: https://alcasthq.com/eso-stamina-sorcerer-werewolf-build-pvp/
Video: https://youtu.be/_CwCY5Z8MHM
Alcast you don't know what you're talking about. Acuity is BiS for most stam/mag classes atm. ESPECIALLY on nightblades.
I've never liked your stamina builds, so I'll help you out a little.
Acuity + major slayer
xD future man coming to tell people from November 2017 how they are wrong
also saying it is BiS for most classes is great overgeneralizationEdited by SodanTok on February 6, 2018 12:25PM2 -
Merlin13KAGL✭✭✭✭✭
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Nice parse, but, for the love of Azura, MSpaint + crop, plz.
Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...
Earn it.
IRL'ing for a while for assorted reasons, in forum, and in game.I am neither warm, nor fuzzy...
Probably has checkbox on Customer Service profile that say High Aggro, 99% immunity to BS0 -
Ep1kMalware✭✭✭✭✭
✭Ep1kMalware wrote: »silver1surfer69 wrote: »The cooldown is way to long and the duration is to short. Something like 8 sec duration and 12 maybe 15 sec cooldown (when i try not to be greedy). But like this it gives me almost no advantage. I get 2 maybe 3 hits in when it procs. Like this i think in some time there will almost be nobody left still using it. What you think?
I do not think the set is underpowered. Sure in PvE you will not see it being used that much. However, I use it on one of my Builds in werewolf form. The burst that this set allows you to pull out is completely insane. Damage and healing all crit for 5s. Maybe they could extend the duration to 6s or reduce the cooldown to like 15s or something like that. But I do not think they will touch that set for now.
You can also track the buff and combine your Ulti with other damage abilties that all crit. Buffing it would be very dangerous in my opinion.
The build I was talking about can be found here:
Written Guide: https://alcasthq.com/eso-stamina-sorcerer-werewolf-build-pvp/
Video: https://youtu.be/_CwCY5Z8MHM
Alcast you don't know what you're talking about. Acuity is BiS for most stam/mag classes atm. ESPECIALLY on nightblades.
I've never liked your stamina builds, so I'll help you out a little.
Acuity + major slayer
xD future man coming to tell people from November 2017 how they are wrong
also saying it is BiS for most classes is great overgeneralization
No it's not. it IS bis for most classes. Also some1 else must've necro'd it, it looked like a new thread >.>0 -
SodanTok✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Ep1kMalware wrote: »Ep1kMalware wrote: »silver1surfer69 wrote: »The cooldown is way to long and the duration is to short. Something like 8 sec duration and 12 maybe 15 sec cooldown (when i try not to be greedy). But like this it gives me almost no advantage. I get 2 maybe 3 hits in when it procs. Like this i think in some time there will almost be nobody left still using it. What you think?
I do not think the set is underpowered. Sure in PvE you will not see it being used that much. However, I use it on one of my Builds in werewolf form. The burst that this set allows you to pull out is completely insane. Damage and healing all crit for 5s. Maybe they could extend the duration to 6s or reduce the cooldown to like 15s or something like that. But I do not think they will touch that set for now.
You can also track the buff and combine your Ulti with other damage abilties that all crit. Buffing it would be very dangerous in my opinion.
The build I was talking about can be found here:
Written Guide: https://alcasthq.com/eso-stamina-sorcerer-werewolf-build-pvp/
Video: https://youtu.be/_CwCY5Z8MHM
Alcast you don't know what you're talking about. Acuity is BiS for most stam/mag classes atm. ESPECIALLY on nightblades.
I've never liked your stamina builds, so I'll help you out a little.
Acuity + major slayer
xD future man coming to tell people from November 2017 how they are wrong
also saying it is BiS for most classes is great overgeneralization
No it's not. it IS bis for most classes. Also some1 else must've necro'd it, it looked like a new thread >.>
Yes, BiS at killing dummies?3 -
Juhasow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Set is ok. Not overpowered not underpowered. It have it benefits on certain setups and places where it shines but it wont be the best in every scenario.0 -
Juhasow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Ep1kMalware wrote: »
No. It's dependant of more things then just class. Wheter the set will be good or not depends of many variables like fight type , rotation type , personal experience with class , group support level etc. It's good alternative setup for cartain fights in certain groups but definietly not the thing that will be BiS for most of the players in most of the fights. Skeleton parses are not even taken under consideration by me here.Edited by Juhasow on February 6, 2018 1:03PM2 -
Bladerunner1✭✭✭✭Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »This set is one of the best you can get. Have you actually tested it? I do more damage with it than with any other set....
It is definitely good the way it is.
The benefit in critical chance you get is basically:
(100%-Critical chance)*Acuity Uptime.
On my stamplar it gives me from the front bar only (when paired with stormfist and war machine):
(100%-44%)*26%=14,56% critical chance.
Now you lose one stat bonus, Assuming it would be a critical bonus, that is 808/219=3.7%.
Therefore, Acuity gives me 10.8% critical chance from the front bar only, which is pretty insane.
So does the evil hunter skill or a weapon crit pot. How does the low up time compare to a flat value like Hundings Rage though?
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/374084/mechanical-acuity
It's a little higher DPS than Hundings for me. After spending months with it, the proc really isn't that bad against bosses with mechanics, I'll swap to acuity weapons as I get back into close quarters fighting and the proc is ready more often than not.0 -
olsborg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭While all the sets in this update was a big disappointment imo, specially the Plague Slinger set and basically most of the new sets in recent months has been gimmicky and very procc-related...wich I hate. I wish they would give us more interesting sets like the Jorvuld’s Guidance set.
On point tho, mechanical acuity set isnt underpowered, its not superstrong either, but it is very effective in the right hands with someone that can time their burst right. If they do buff it, they should be extremely careful.
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Ep1kMalware✭✭✭✭✭
✭Ep1kMalware wrote: »
No. It's dependant of more things then just class. Wheter the set will be good or not depends of many variables like fight type , rotation type , personal experience with class , group support level etc. It's good alternative setup for cartain fights in certain groups but definietly not the thing that will be BiS for most of the players in most of the fights. Skeleton parses are not even taken under consideration by me here.
I'm not saying it's good, I'm saying it's the BEST in slot. That isn't an opinion you can argue. Acuity gives the best results for mosr classes in an optimized group. Period.
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SodanTok✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Ep1kMalware wrote: »Ep1kMalware wrote: »
No. It's dependant of more things then just class. Wheter the set will be good or not depends of many variables like fight type , rotation type , personal experience with class , group support level etc. It's good alternative setup for cartain fights in certain groups but definietly not the thing that will be BiS for most of the players in most of the fights. Skeleton parses are not even taken under consideration by me here.
I'm not saying it's good, I'm saying it's the BEST in slot. That isn't an opinion you can argue. Acuity gives the best results for mosr classes in an optimized group. Period.
I think you dropped the proof along with around ~50 images of parses on various trial bosses on your way to explain how it is BiS.Edited by SodanTok on February 6, 2018 2:12PM1 -
jaws343✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I use it in PVP on my Magplar. The dots and the channeled abilities from the templar work really well with this. Plus, having this proc during eye of the storm is satisfying.0 -
Ep1kMalware✭✭✭✭✭
✭Ep1kMalware wrote: »Ep1kMalware wrote: »
No. It's dependant of more things then just class. Wheter the set will be good or not depends of many variables like fight type , rotation type , personal experience with class , group support level etc. It's good alternative setup for cartain fights in certain groups but definietly not the thing that will be BiS for most of the players in most of the fights. Skeleton parses are not even taken under consideration by me here.
I'm not saying it's good, I'm saying it's the BEST in slot. That isn't an opinion you can argue. Acuity gives the best results for mosr classes in an optimized group. Period.
I think you dropped the proof along with around ~50 images of parses on various trial bosses on your way to explain how it is BiS.
To what extent would that satisfy you? Yes, I'm going to have everyone I play with take screen shots for somebody who's too dumb to distinguish 'good' from 'best'.
And yes, I did just call you dumb.0 -
Mureel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I use it! The minute it gets buffed it will be nerfed - in thee right hands - it is very good.1 -
SodanTok✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Ep1kMalware wrote: »Ep1kMalware wrote: »Ep1kMalware wrote: »
No. It's dependant of more things then just class. Wheter the set will be good or not depends of many variables like fight type , rotation type , personal experience with class , group support level etc. It's good alternative setup for cartain fights in certain groups but definietly not the thing that will be BiS for most of the players in most of the fights. Skeleton parses are not even taken under consideration by me here.
I'm not saying it's good, I'm saying it's the BEST in slot. That isn't an opinion you can argue. Acuity gives the best results for mosr classes in an optimized group. Period.
I think you dropped the proof along with around ~50 images of parses on various trial bosses on your way to explain how it is BiS.
To what extent would that satisfy you? Yes, I'm going to have everyone I play with take screen shots for somebody who's too dumb to distinguish 'good' from 'best'.
And yes, I did just call you dumb.
Arent we here for exactly that reason? You unable to distinguish good from best?
I sure hope you arent really on console. Edited by SodanTok on February 6, 2018 2:45PM0 -
Ep1kMalware✭✭✭✭✭
✭Ep1kMalware wrote: »Ep1kMalware wrote: »Ep1kMalware wrote: »
No. It's dependant of more things then just class. Wheter the set will be good or not depends of many variables like fight type , rotation type , personal experience with class , group support level etc. It's good alternative setup for cartain fights in certain groups but definietly not the thing that will be BiS for most of the players in most of the fights. Skeleton parses are not even taken under consideration by me here.
I'm not saying it's good, I'm saying it's the BEST in slot. That isn't an opinion you can argue. Acuity gives the best results for mosr classes in an optimized group. Period.
I think you dropped the proof along with around ~50 images of parses on various trial bosses on your way to explain how it is BiS.
To what extent would that satisfy you? Yes, I'm going to have everyone I play with take screen shots for somebody who's too dumb to distinguish 'good' from 'best'.
And yes, I did just call you dumb.
Arent we here for exactly that reason? You unable to distinguish good from best? I sure hope you arent really on console.
You know what? I'll drop the subject. You can just sit tight and continue to feel dumb as balls when it's everyone's meta.0 -
MaselClass RepresentativeBobby_V_Rockit wrote: »This set is one of the best you can get. Have you actually tested it? I do more damage with it than with any other set....
It is definitely good the way it is.
The benefit in critical chance you get is basically:
(100%-Critical chance)*Acuity Uptime.
On my stamplar it gives me from the front bar only (when paired with stormfist and war machine):
(100%-44%)*26%=14,56% critical chance.
Now you lose one stat bonus, Assuming it would be a critical bonus, that is 808/219=3.7%.
Therefore, Acuity gives me 10.8% critical chance from the front bar only, which is pretty insane.
So does the evil hunter skill or a weapon crit pot. How does the low up time compare to a flat value like Hundings Rage though?
These are givens. You should always use them anyway. I get out more Dps from Acuity over Hundings rage, that's for sure.
I can post you comparison parses tomorrow when I have time to do a Hundings rage 6m dummy.PC EU
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thats not my screenshot)
but if i remember correctly - master architectI will show you fear in a handfull of dust.0 -
Izaki✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭LOL
This set is basically BiS for both mag and stam classes in PvE.@ Izaki #PCEU
#FrenchKiss #GoneFor2YearsAndMyGuildDoesn'tRaidAnymore
#MoreDPSthanYou
#Stamblade0 -
Izaki✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Ep1kMalware wrote: »Ep1kMalware wrote: »Ep1kMalware wrote: »Ep1kMalware wrote: »
No. It's dependant of more things then just class. Wheter the set will be good or not depends of many variables like fight type , rotation type , personal experience with class , group support level etc. It's good alternative setup for cartain fights in certain groups but definietly not the thing that will be BiS for most of the players in most of the fights. Skeleton parses are not even taken under consideration by me here.
I'm not saying it's good, I'm saying it's the BEST in slot. That isn't an opinion you can argue. Acuity gives the best results for mosr classes in an optimized group. Period.
I think you dropped the proof along with around ~50 images of parses on various trial bosses on your way to explain how it is BiS.
To what extent would that satisfy you? Yes, I'm going to have everyone I play with take screen shots for somebody who's too dumb to distinguish 'good' from 'best'.
And yes, I did just call you dumb.
Arent we here for exactly that reason? You unable to distinguish good from best? I sure hope you arent really on console.
You know what? I'll drop the subject. You can just sit tight and continue to feel dumb as balls when it's everyone's meta.
Even though you're almost right about the set being BiS for most classes, I couldn't help but notice what an arrogant and disrespectful *** you are. No point in calling others dumb since you didn't provide any proof whatsoever to back your claims and the other person therefore had all the reasons to doubt your point of view on the set.@ Izaki #PCEU
#FrenchKiss #GoneFor2YearsAndMyGuildDoesn'tRaidAnymore
#MoreDPSthanYou
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Luckylancer✭✭✭✭✭People that think dmg is homogenised is wrong about this set. You need bursts with this set. Major slayer + %100 crit means you get huge dmg bonuses that multply each other. Thats the strenght of this set.2 -
Bobby_V_Rockit✭✭✭✭✭
✭Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »This set is one of the best you can get. Have you actually tested it? I do more damage with it than with any other set....
It is definitely good the way it is.
The benefit in critical chance you get is basically:
(100%-Critical chance)*Acuity Uptime.
On my stamplar it gives me from the front bar only (when paired with stormfist and war machine):
(100%-44%)*26%=14,56% critical chance.
Now you lose one stat bonus, Assuming it would be a critical bonus, that is 808/219=3.7%.
Therefore, Acuity gives me 10.8% critical chance from the front bar only, which is pretty insane.
So does the evil hunter skill or a weapon crit pot. How does the low up time compare to a flat value like Hundings Rage though?
These are givens. You should always use them anyway. I get out more Dps from Acuity over Hundings rage, that's for sure.
I can post you comparison parses tomorrow when I have time to do a Hundings rage 6m dummy.
S’all good, I believe you dont stress about videos. I’ve been running it for a few days anyways with 5x VO on ny stam sorc and enjoy it a lot.0 -
Waffennacht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Ibfeel like I'm behind when it comes to this set, I suppose better late than never!0 -
Dredlord✭✭✭✭✭WrathOfInnos wrote: »Yep, I use it on my mag warden, paired with necropotence (no crit bonuses). My base crit is 41.9%, so when it procs I get 58.1% additional crit chance. In dungeons and trials it has an uptime around 26%, so on average the 5 piece gives me 15.1% crit. This sounds high, but the weapon damage bonus is useless to me, so for comparison I account for this by subtracting a typical crit set bonus (3.8%) from the 15.1%, giving effectively 11.3% crit. Comparing this to the 8.8% from Mother's Sorrow 5 piece, Acuity is better by 2.5% crit, or roughly 1.5% DPS.
Now I will point out that this is a very specific build, created around maximizing acuity. If acuity was paired with any set with a crit bonus it would not look as good. It is crafted so it cannot be used with Julianos, but a single crit bonus from IA, Iceheart, or Slimecraw makes Acuity no better than Mothers Sorrow in trials (where minor prophecy is provided). Scathing Mage is even worse, as it has 2 crit bonuses. Really the only viable companion sets are necro, Moondancer, and Master Architect. Also forget about acuity if you have a precise weapon.
Edit: To be clear, I think acuity could use a slight buff. It should be BIS, not for all builds, but for a slightly larger slice of the DPS build pie chart than currently. There are just too many things that weaken the bonus by providing crit elsewhere. Theoretical max uptime of 1/3 would solve this problem without being OP or erasing other sets as valid options.
Right, to build for mechanical acuity you want a low natural crit rating and instead focus all in on spell/weapon damage. You cover the two main problems: first the wasted set bonus, the set designers need to stop giving us these types of sets. If they want them usable by both builds then each bonus should benefit both. Example: change the 2p bonus to wp+sp damage and make 3p bonus either max stam+mag or stam+mag regen. Second problem is that set designers refuse to give us sets without +crit. Would be nice to have some (viable) sets that give just +dam and +max stat.
If those two issues are fixed then acuity could work without adjusting the 5p bonus.
the set bonuses are done that way for balance on the weapon swap to be used for the proc, making the 4th set bonus very valuable and still having the equivalent of 2,3,4 set bonuses useful for all pvp specs at least.0 -
Araxyte✭✭✭✭silver1surfer69 wrote: »The cooldown is way to long and the duration is to short. Something like 8 sec duration and 12 maybe 15 sec cooldown (when i try not to be greedy). But like this it gives me almost no advantage. I get 2 maybe 3 hits in when it procs. Like this i think in some time there will almost be nobody left still using it. What you think?
I'm sorry but I just can't agree. After looking at combat recaps my critical hit % is 70-75% with mechanical acuity on a character with a buffed crit-rate of 40%! Mechanical acuity 5th piece effectively adds at least 25% critical rating which works for both weapon damage and spell damage abilities (So things like a storm atronach on a stamina sorc will benefit).
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