Narvuntien wrote: »

Anotherone773 wrote: »

Yeah thats not how that works. If george and beth coded the area of the game that has the bug, they dont sent john and nancy in to troubleshoot it and try to fix it. Code is complex enough as it is, the most efficient people to put on that bug are the people who worked on that part of the system. I think your confusing customer service with actual developers.

"various bug fixes" wasn't the only part of your argument.

FPS, Lag and sync departments don't work on new DLCs.
Balance fixing team doesn't work on the DLCs, except for the new sets.
Upgrades to current content. I assume you mean things like UI and guild-store improvements? In this coming DLC this team would be involved with their work on the storage and outfit systems. Okay I guess this might be relevent how many people you pull off the new DLC to work on these existing systems. But I also feel like these upgrades can be done slowly without the time pressure of DLCs so you can give a small team a year to work on these improvements without there being a problem.

Unfortunately, this game has been out long enough for the original programers to have moved on to other jobs, so I don't think that you can always get people to go in a fix their own code. obviously ideally you fix the bugs before release but I feel like sometimes the bugs are interactions with old systems written by different people.

How you think it works, is not how it works, at least in my experience. And i know a game programmer( he actually helped me mod a couple of my single player games) and my nephew is a 3D artist/modeler for another game developer. I also have interacted on a personal level with devs from another game. In my experience, thats not how it works. Teams are created to work on certain projects that are part of a larger update or expansion. Devs fix their own stuff, if that dev doesnt work their anymore, it becomes "legacy code" and other devs have to work with it but 99.9% of bugs in games are fixable.

If you were to put the human and financial resources put into a DLC into fixing the current problems, you would find a lot would get done. Adding more content on top of broken content only creates bigger problems and it makes the original problem much harder to fix. That is why this game, according to what i have read, has more bugs now than it did and its getting progressively worse. They keep adding content to the game, and not fixing enough of the underlying problems. You are literally adding insult to injury. Eventually its going to reach entropy and the game just isnt going to function well at all and become unstable. At which point, it will determined to be beyond fixing and be shutdown.

You cant add something new to something broken and expect it to not cause more problems, thats just stupid. I dont know, im use to playing a game in which bugs are priority and taken seriously and hotfixes are implemented with days if not hours. And in which their are patch rollbacks if something didnt go as planned and cause issues( like our current FPS drop for no reason).

The sad part is its probably not even the actual devs, typically devs take great pride in their work. Its typically management, making financial situations based on we want more money this quarter rather than we want to retain players and have a good reputation. So management tells them to pump out new content rather than fix old stuff.

Ratzkifal wrote: »

A lot of people don't realize that improvements cost money and that revenue has to come from somewhere. Not releasing new things for us to buy, is potentially dangerous for ZOS. Sure, ZOS could move money from the Dungeon team to the bug fix and balance team, but there won't be a lot of money to move if there is no new income being created. The money that goes into improvements won't necessarily be coming back, meaning that it will also not be available to the dungeon team again after all issues have been fixed. Worst case, it will let the game go belly-up way sooner than it would at the current rate of improvement releases.

"And then this was offset with some exclusive features ( for money making purposes) such as:
*1 or 2 new houses that were crown exclusive
* New pets, mounts, costumes, motif?, furniture,etc that were crown exclusive.
* Other vanity/cosmetic things that were crown exclusive."

Which is what this section is about. A lot of the fixes with be code heavy. The graphics people can work on creating new vanity items that are crown exclusive to offset the lack of a DLC, financially.

I don't make illusions about fixing everything if they would skip 1 DLC. It would simply never happen.

There are a few people that seem to think i meant fix everything. That's not what i said nor implied. What i said and implied was that instead of spending resources on creating new problems, spend resources on getting rid of a lot of the current ones. If they fixed half of the major issues and a quarter of the minor ones that would be a big improvement.