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Class balance patch?
Yubarius
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Am I totally missing something, but where is the class balance patch notes? I haven't seen anything pertaining to it and the patch is gonna drop (I hope) in a week.
- Yubarius - Magicka NB - Flawless Conqueror
- YubariusX - Magicka Warden - Flawless Conqueror
- Lord Yubarius - Stamina Sorc - Stormproof - Centurion
- 'Rubick the Grand Magus - Magicka Sorc
- Fair Child Tank - Stamina DK
- Jaruko - Magicka Templar
- Selthyn Bavailo - Mag DK
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Zer0oo✭✭✭✭✭
✭It is always next patch since morrowind patch
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Asardes✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭They have just balanced DK by changing off-balance itself. We'll have to wait another 2-3 months till the next patch, when the other classes will be balanced into the ground as well to make DK a meaningful choice.Beta tester since February 2014, played ESO-TU October 2015 - August 2022, currently on an extended break
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Longstride✭✭✭This has been ZOS modus operendi since the game launched. They take limited feedback from the PTS players, launch an inferior product, then treat the live players as beta testers.
There is NO reasonable explanation for seperating content releasing updates from class balance adjustmentd when combat mechanics and class skills are changed with the content addition. Were they to simply release new dungeons and NOT fundamentally alter combat mechanica, it would be acceptable to have a later balance update. The developers do not play their own game as they should. Period.
Also, I again question @ZOS_Wrobel 's credentials. He is woefully out of step for the initial vision of this game and consistently attempts to mould it into a generic WoW clone where your role is determined by the class you play.10 -
Tannus15✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Class balance patch has been pushed out to the mid year update.
No real explanation as to why.
The nerfs in this patch feel like bandaids to fix what they deem to be the biggest offenders, primarily in PvP, where I think the player base is a bit more volatile and likely to move on to another game as exploitative builds become more common.
Basically, Miats, perma block PvP builds and more consistent skill behaviour with regards to blocking and dodging were must fixes for PvP.
I think the off balance meta is something they want to get rid of so they can balance classes accordingly with real data that hasn't been skewed by the current meta. Sucks if you're a mDK, but it is what it is.
There some speculation that spell crafting is coming in the next chapter, so balancing now would be a waste of effort. Personally I doubt it, but there might be something of similar impact so delaying it might make sense from the dev perspective.2 -
Skullstachio✭✭✭✭✭for PC/Mac, it drops on February 12th, console players get the base patch and DLC drop on February 27th.If you see me anywhere. Know that I am sitting back with a bag of popcorn, watching as ESO burns the goodwill of its player base with practices that only disrespects the players time like it did to me and many others...
If a game does not respect your time, best thing to do is move on from it and find something else.0 -
jhharvest✭✭✭
We've been waiting for a class balance patch maybe 2 years now. Then they launched Warden.2 -
coplannb16_ESO✭✭✭✭
We've been waiting for a class balance patch maybe 2 years now. Then they launched Warden.
yup, Battle Mage incoming soon max level: mDK, stamBlade, stamSorc, magPlar, mDen, stamDen, magBlade, stamCro
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And at this point just remove all classes and have everyone choose their set of skills. then balance accordingly to skills always used vs. skills never used.0 -
Seraphayel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Well the next class balance patch will be Chapter II. They'll introduce some new fancy mechanics (Spellcrafting, new weapons, new skill lines - we'll see) and then they need to rebalance classes.
We won't get a major balance patch before that.PS5EUAldmeri Dominion- Khajiit Arcanist -1 -
actosh✭✭✭✭✭Class balance patch has been pushed out to the mid year update.
No real explanation as to why.
The hidden explanation this time (since it been pushed to the next patch multiple times) is, that they will surely first start to take a look to rebalance classes when they finished their concept of giving each class a heal/tank/dd line similiar to the warden, not 100% exactly like this, but somewhere near.
Then we will all be patched to the status of mag warden in pve to make the game a bit more challenging again ^^
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f047ys3v3n✭✭✭✭✭
✭Do we still have classes? I thought we were all just supposed to use weapon skill line skills and a few guild or PVP ones.I am currently worried for the future of ESO. Population seems like it is in free fall and the cancellation of the North America in-person gathering feels very much like pulling the plug. Kudos on fixing the in-game economy though. Clearly whatever gold shenanigans were happening the last couple years are fixed.3 -
Longstride✭✭✭f047ys3v3n wrote: »Do we still have classes? I thought we were all just supposed to use weapon skill line skills and a few guild or PVP ones.
That's just stamina builds. Make magika builds then yoy can play jalf a class.0 -
Finedaible✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Class balance patch has been pushed out to the mid year update.
No real explanation as to why.
The nerfs in this patch feel like bandaids to fix what they deem to be the biggest offenders, primarily in PvP, where I think the player base is a bit more volatile and likely to move on to another game as exploitative builds become more common.
Basically, Miats, perma block PvP builds and more consistent skill behaviour with regards to blocking and dodging were must fixes for PvP.
I think the off balance meta is something they want to get rid of so they can balance classes accordingly with real data that hasn't been skewed by the current meta. Sucks if you're a mDK, but it is what it is.
There some speculation that spell crafting is coming in the next chapter, so balancing now would be a waste of effort. Personally I doubt it, but there might be something of similar impact so delaying it might make sense from the dev perspective.
I thought spell crafting was confirmed dead and scrapped forever. I mean, they can't even balance the existing content...Edited by Finedaible on February 2, 2018 10:06PM0 -
MehrunesFlagon✭✭✭✭✭
✭Class balance patch has been pushed out to the mid year update.
No real explanation as to why.
The hidden explanation this time (since it been pushed to the next patch multiple times) is, that they will surely first start to take a look to rebalance classes when they finished their concept of giving each class a heal/tank/dd line similiar to the warden, not 100% exactly like this, but somewhere near.
Let's just hope this doesn't happen.
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Derra✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭MehrunesFlagon wrote: »Class balance patch has been pushed out to the mid year update.
No real explanation as to why.
The hidden explanation this time (since it been pushed to the next patch multiple times) is, that they will surely first start to take a look to rebalance classes when they finished their concept of giving each class a heal/tank/dd line similiar to the warden, not 100% exactly like this, but somewhere near.
Let's just hope this doesn't happen.
They already said this was their current goal for the existing classes
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Mettaricana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭How about they atop nerfing the 3 skill lines and just add a 4th one that is a mox of dd tank and healer to fill in blanks2 -
Ragnarock41✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭What is a class? excuse me Im a stamDk so I don't know what class or class skill means. Never seen such a thing in my life..Edited by Ragnarock41 on February 3, 2018 6:31PM4 -
MehrunesFlagon✭✭✭✭✭
✭MehrunesFlagon wrote: »Class balance patch has been pushed out to the mid year update.
No real explanation as to why.
The hidden explanation this time (since it been pushed to the next patch multiple times) is, that they will surely first start to take a look to rebalance classes when they finished their concept of giving each class a heal/tank/dd line similiar to the warden, not 100% exactly like this, but somewhere near.
Let's just hope this doesn't happen.
They already said this was their current goal for the existing classes
and I hate it.0 -
aeowulf✭✭✭✭✭I hope they look at under-played class/role combinations and try to work out why. ZoS are the only people who have stats on things like 'How many DK healers have healed vBF hm' There are other combinations that you never or rarely see in group finder too, NB & templar (and sorc to a lesser degree) tanks, NB & sorc healer. 'Scored' content is the only place meta should be an absolute requirement these days. Outside of that all class/role combinations should be attractive/viable.Edited by aeowulf on February 5, 2018 10:16AM2
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James-Wayne✭✭✭✭✭
✭This patch was about balancing the group play features, next patch is class balance seeing we get another new class... which will need to be balanced against the previous 5 classes so might as well "balance" them all in one go.PERTH, AUSTRALIA | PC | NA | @Aussie-Elders
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Dedricus✭✭✭MehrunesFlagon wrote: »MehrunesFlagon wrote: »Class balance patch has been pushed out to the mid year update.
No real explanation as to why.
The hidden explanation this time (since it been pushed to the next patch multiple times) is, that they will surely first start to take a look to rebalance classes when they finished their concept of giving each class a heal/tank/dd line similiar to the warden, not 100% exactly like this, but somewhere near.
Let's just hope this doesn't happen.
They already said this was their current goal for the existing classes
and I hate it.
What's wrong with that? I mean, them pushing back balance for that is stupid, but every class performing every role is amazing. So long as they have unique playstyle, I think it's great.1 -
MehrunesFlagon✭✭✭✭✭
✭MehrunesFlagon wrote: »MehrunesFlagon wrote: »Class balance patch has been pushed out to the mid year update.
No real explanation as to why.
The hidden explanation this time (since it been pushed to the next patch multiple times) is, that they will surely first start to take a look to rebalance classes when they finished their concept of giving each class a heal/tank/dd line similiar to the warden, not 100% exactly like this, but somewhere near.
Let's just hope this doesn't happen.
They already said this was their current goal for the existing classes
and I hate it.
What's wrong with that? I mean, them pushing back balance for that is stupid, but every class performing every role is amazing. So long as they have unique playstyle, I think it's great.
I would rather not have all classes not be great at any 1 thing, and warden a shining example of that.Besides I'm not asking for my sorc/nb to made into a healer or tank.Would much prefer that remain exclusively damage classes.0 -
Cinbri✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭MehrunesFlagon wrote: »MehrunesFlagon wrote: »MehrunesFlagon wrote: »Class balance patch has been pushed out to the mid year update.
No real explanation as to why.
The hidden explanation this time (since it been pushed to the next patch multiple times) is, that they will surely first start to take a look to rebalance classes when they finished their concept of giving each class a heal/tank/dd line similiar to the warden, not 100% exactly like this, but somewhere near.
Let's just hope this doesn't happen.
They already said this was their current goal for the existing classes
and I hate it.
What's wrong with that? I mean, them pushing back balance for that is stupid, but every class performing every role is amazing. So long as they have unique playstyle, I think it's great.
I would rather not have all classes not be great at any 1 thing, and warden a shining example of that.Besides I'm not asking for my sorc/nb to made into a healer or tank.Would much prefer that remain exclusively damage classes.
I prefer every class being viable for any role - that will be total freedom in playing.
Its game that wear title "Elder Scrolls", it should fit the name that brought many people here.5 -
Seraphayel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Again, there won't be a class balance patch until Chapter II. Chapter II, when they introduce new skills, will have the necessary balance patch.PS5EUAldmeri Dominion- Khajiit Arcanist -0 -
MehrunesFlagon✭✭✭✭✭
✭MehrunesFlagon wrote: »MehrunesFlagon wrote: »MehrunesFlagon wrote: »Class balance patch has been pushed out to the mid year update.
No real explanation as to why.
The hidden explanation this time (since it been pushed to the next patch multiple times) is, that they will surely first start to take a look to rebalance classes when they finished their concept of giving each class a heal/tank/dd line similiar to the warden, not 100% exactly like this, but somewhere near.
Let's just hope this doesn't happen.
They already said this was their current goal for the existing classes
and I hate it.
What's wrong with that? I mean, them pushing back balance for that is stupid, but every class performing every role is amazing. So long as they have unique playstyle, I think it's great.
I would rather not have all classes not be great at any 1 thing, and warden a shining example of that.Besides I'm not asking for my sorc/nb to made into a healer or tank.Would much prefer that remain exclusively damage classes.
I prefer every class being viable for any role - that will be total freedom in playing.
Its game that wear title "Elder Scrolls", it should fit the name that brought many people here.
I don't *** care.If they do this.We are going to end up with 5 classes that can technically do all 3 roles,but they won't excel in any of them.Just like Warden.Anyone who actually wants this has to be out of their mind.0 -
Ragnarock41✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭MehrunesFlagon wrote: »MehrunesFlagon wrote: »MehrunesFlagon wrote: »MehrunesFlagon wrote: »Class balance patch has been pushed out to the mid year update.
No real explanation as to why.
The hidden explanation this time (since it been pushed to the next patch multiple times) is, that they will surely first start to take a look to rebalance classes when they finished their concept of giving each class a heal/tank/dd line similiar to the warden, not 100% exactly like this, but somewhere near.
Let's just hope this doesn't happen.
They already said this was their current goal for the existing classes
and I hate it.
What's wrong with that? I mean, them pushing back balance for that is stupid, but every class performing every role is amazing. So long as they have unique playstyle, I think it's great.
I would rather not have all classes not be great at any 1 thing, and warden a shining example of that.Besides I'm not asking for my sorc/nb to made into a healer or tank.Would much prefer that remain exclusively damage classes.
I prefer every class being viable for any role - that will be total freedom in playing.
Its game that wear title "Elder Scrolls", it should fit the name that brought many people here.
I don't *** care.If they do this.We are going to end up with 5 classes that can technically do all 3 roles,but they won't excel in any of them.Just like Warden.Anyone who actually wants this has to be out of their mind.
Or not playing the bis classes.2 -
DoonerSeraph✭✭✭✭Eh, after doing this "one line for each role",they could just extinguish classes and have people choose 3 of the current class trees as their own for each character (eg, a dps character with 3 dps lines of different classes).
Thats just wishful thinking since the current balance team cant even see a square peg doesnt fit a round hole, let alone balance this.1
