Vermintide wrote: »Why not have both.
I prefer no-CP personally but everyone has their own preference. Right now it's unfair because if you like battlegrounds, you have to use CP (and then you have to go without when they change it back), duels are all unless you go out of your way to do it in Cyro, etc.
There needs to be two queues for battlegrounds, both campaigns in Cyro, and an option for challenging people to non-CP duels.
Vermintide wrote: »Why not have both.
Because they like having the advantage over lower CP players. 1vXing is easy in the CP campaigns 'cuz it's easy to sustain, do high damage, and have a lot of resistance. Some of them even post those "fair fights" on Youtube and think they're great players. Anyway, there's no pride in beating players who are at a disavantage and that's why as a CP cap player, I don't like playing CP BGs or in the CP campaigns.This is just not happening for such obvious reasons. Do not like CP you have a no CP campaign and BGs so it seems it is just fine. Odd someone would make such a statement yet back it up with no information as to why they think that way.
BTW, one of the obvious reasons is look at the non CP campaign vs CP campaigns. Most seem to choose to play Cyrodiil with CP by a great margin.
Because they like having the advantage over lower CP players. 1vXing is easy in the CP campaigns 'cuz it's easy to sustain, do high damage, and have a lot of resistance. Some of them even post those "fair fights" on Youtube and think they're great players. Anyway, there's no pride in beating players who are at a disavantage and that's why as a CP cap player, I don't like playing CP BGs or in the CP campaigns.This is just not happening for such obvious reasons. Do not like CP you have a no CP campaign and BGs so it seems it is just fine. Odd someone would make such a statement yet back it up with no information as to why they think that way.
BTW, one of the obvious reasons is look at the non CP campaign vs CP campaigns. Most seem to choose to play Cyrodiil with CP by a great margin.
This is just not happening for such obvious reasons. Do not like CP you have a no CP campaign and BGs so it seems it is just fine. Odd someone would make such a statement yet back it up with no information as to why they think that way.
BTW, one of the obvious reasons is look at the non CP campaign vs CP campaigns. Most seem to choose to play Cyrodiil with CP by a great margin.
Because they like having the advantage over lower CP players. 1vXing is easy in the CP campaigns 'cuz it's easy to sustain, do high damage, and have a lot of resistance. Some of them even post those "fair fights" on Youtube and think they're great players. Anyway, there's no pride in beating players who are at a disavantage and that's why as a CP cap player, I don't like playing CP BGs or in the CP campaigns.This is just not happening for such obvious reasons. Do not like CP you have a no CP campaign and BGs so it seems it is just fine. Odd someone would make such a statement yet back it up with no information as to why they think that way.
BTW, one of the obvious reasons is look at the non CP campaign vs CP campaigns. Most seem to choose to play Cyrodiil with CP by a great margin.
And again, there is a non-CP campaign for low CP players to go into. Even those with CP but think using the CP in Cyro is a disadvantage to them can go to the non-CP campaign.
It is a win-win situation. Everyone gets what they want and for some what they think they need.
Also, what may be the issue is not the CP but the experience and skill. Obviously a player with low CP is likely to have less experience in ESO PvP and thus at a disadvantage against experienced players regardless of CP being in the equation or not.
Let's make it completely fair & just remove cp from all pvp.
Duels.
Campaigns.
Battlegrounds.
This is just not happening for such obvious reasons. Do not like CP you have a no CP campaign and BGs so it seems it is just fine. Odd someone would make such a statement yet back it up with no information as to why they think that way.
BTW, one of the obvious reasons is look at the non CP campaign vs CP campaigns. Most seem to choose to play Cyrodiil with CP by a great margin.
Tan9oSuccka wrote: »No CP is crazy good in my opinion. It’s sad people crutch CP campaigns.
Tan9oSuccka wrote: »No CP is crazy good in my opinion. It’s sad people crutch CP campaigns.
It's sad people crutch no-CP campaigns.
Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »No CP is crazy good in my opinion. It’s sad people crutch CP campaigns.
It's sad people crutch no-CP campaigns.
This is quite possibly the dumbest statement ever made on the forums.
This is just not happening for such obvious reasons. Do not like CP you have a no CP campaign and BGs so it seems it is just fine. Odd someone would make such a statement yet back it up with no information as to why they think that way.
BTW, one of the obvious reasons is look at the non CP campaign vs CP campaigns. Most seem to choose to play Cyrodiil with CP by a great margin.
Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »No CP is crazy good in my opinion. It’s sad people crutch CP campaigns.
It's sad people crutch no-CP campaigns.
This is quite possibly the dumbest statement ever made on the forums.
I'm glad you like it.
You seem to have a misconception that playing no cp takes more talent or something. You make assumptions that players who play CP campaigns are inferior or need to rely on the cp system, or your lack of cp in order to be effective.
Its kind of like a go kart racer telling formula1 drivers they suck because they cant race without their big tires and big engines.
Why not just suck it up and grind to cp cap? If you are there then whats the issue? You cant kill everyone in Cytodiil with 1 build? Good.
You people already have a no cp campaign. Go away and stop trying to ruin our game in order to force us to play your gimped version. Most of us played no CP for years before CP was a thing, we're not going back no matter how much you try to shame us for playing what we enjoy. If your campaign is empty that should be your first hint.
Because they like having the advantage over lower CP players. 1vXing is easy in the CP campaigns 'cuz it's easy to sustain, do high damage, and have a lot of resistance. Some of them even post those "fair fights" on Youtube and think they're great players. Anyway, there's no pride in beating players who are at a disavantage and that's why as a CP cap player, I don't like playing CP BGs or in the CP campaigns.This is just not happening for such obvious reasons. Do not like CP you have a no CP campaign and BGs so it seems it is just fine. Odd someone would make such a statement yet back it up with no information as to why they think that way.
BTW, one of the obvious reasons is look at the non CP campaign vs CP campaigns. Most seem to choose to play Cyrodiil with CP by a great margin.
Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »No CP is crazy good in my opinion. It’s sad people crutch CP campaigns.
It's sad people crutch no-CP campaigns.
This is quite possibly the dumbest statement ever made on the forums.
I'm glad you like it.
You seem to have a misconception that playing no cp takes more talent or something. You make assumptions that players who play CP campaigns are inferior or need to rely on the cp system, or your lack of cp in order to be effective.
Its kind of like a go kart racer telling formula1 drivers they suck because they cant race without their big tires and big engines.
Why not just suck it up and grind to cp cap? If you are there then whats the issue? You cant kill everyone in Cytodiil with 1 build? Good.
You people already have a no cp campaign. Go away and stop trying to ruin our game in order to force us to play your gimped version. Most of us played no CP for years before CP was a thing, we're not going back no matter how much you try to shame us for playing what we enjoy. If your campaign is empty that should be your first hint.
To be clear, I think choices are good as I play both campaigns. I’m at 1,000 CP, but that’s not important.
I have seen entire (CP) PVP guilds come into Sotha Sil, and get demolished. They try one push and quit after a single wipe. Population is low because people don’t adjust. Also, the streamers generally stay clear of it too (no meta riders).
As an avid player of both....CP is a huge crutch. Non CP campaigns make people think about their builds and make choices.
Not find the most unbalanced sets, then augment it by CP.
Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »No CP is crazy good in my opinion. It’s sad people crutch CP campaigns.
It's sad people crutch no-CP campaigns.
This is quite possibly the dumbest statement ever made on the forums.
I'm glad you like it.
You seem to have a misconception that playing no cp takes more talent or something. You make assumptions that players who play CP campaigns are inferior or need to rely on the cp system, or your lack of cp in order to be effective.
Its kind of like a go kart racer telling formula1 drivers they suck because they cant race without their big tires and big engines.
Why not just suck it up and grind to cp cap? If you are there then whats the issue? You cant kill everyone in Cytodiil with 1 build? Good.
You people already have a no cp campaign. Go away and stop trying to ruin our game in order to force us to play your gimped version. Most of us played no CP for years before CP was a thing, we're not going back no matter how much you try to shame us for playing what we enjoy. If your campaign is empty that should be your first hint.
To be clear, I think choices are good as I play both campaigns. I’m at 1,000 CP, but that’s not important.
I have seen entire (CP) PVP guilds come into Sotha Sil, and get demolished. They try one push and quit after a single wipe. Population is low because people don’t adjust. Also, the streamers generally stay clear of it too (no meta riders).
As an avid player of both....CP is a huge crutch. Non CP campaigns make people think about their builds and make choices.
Not find the most unbalanced sets, then augment it by CP.
Anecdotal evidence. You saw a group of players who regularly play CP go into non-CP and do horribly and now make generalized conclusions about CP and non CP players.
Were they setup for no cp?
Were they experienced in no cp?
Were they taking jt seriously?
Were they good players?
Nah, lets just boil it down to wide generalizations based on their CP or no CP preferences.
"All formula1 drivers suck because I've seen some lose gokart races."
Tan9oSuccka wrote: »No CP is crazy good in my opinion. It’s sad people crutch CP campaigns.
It's sad people crutch no-CP campaigns.