or just nerf the strength of non-medium sneaking massivly so that having medium armor for stealth actually matters

No need to "remove". Something needs to be added.

Agility (Medium Armor Passive)

• Increases your Weapon Damage by 6%/12%.
• Increases your dodge chance by 3%/5%.

Remove remove suggestions

i play stealth class, and use stealth passives, please don't remove the passives i need for my stealth class.

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »

@LordSemaj invi detect pots are there for a reason...learn to use them and stop complaining.

Who is complaining? My comment about moving Cloak stealth mechanics to all medium armor users instead of making it an exclusive nightblade trait? Where's the complaint? It'd be a buff to medium armor builds, cloaks for everyone. Learn to read.

Medium is pretty much in the bin for me, it gives so little protection that one time, when I was messing with the set up, I had taken it of while wearing a costume. Some friends asked me to join in a run in a trio of dungeons, two normal and one vet. I only realised after that I had done it without any armour on

In all honesty the dodge roll thing is all but worthless in pve as most of the stupid one shot and aoe mechanics simply ignore it, heavy is just right and so is light, medium is a mess. It’s meant to be armour, what kind of armour is worth lugging around if it offers such little mitigation

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

i play stealth class, and use stealth passives, please don't remove the passives i need for my stealth class.

There’s already a reduced sneak cost in legerdmain passives, it’s quite strong. It’s just redundant and unnecessary in PvE because of that and pvp for obvious reasons. Both light and heavy armor have passives that all contribute to battle fitness, medium armor, for some reason, has this passive that is completely useless yet it is the main armor type for stamina dps. Extra mitigation on dodge roll or aoe mitigation are very good suggestions. Particularly the aoe damage I think, since that’s a big issue for PvE boss fights where dps are pretty much required to run blade cloak and also for PvP where many of the strongest attacks are aoe.

More needs to be made of the difference in weights. And medium is sneaking, sorry but it fits.

There should be bigger resistance differences etc I think, but yes considering most of PvP is in heavy sneak / bank passives give this weight a reason

LOL

Beardimus wrote: »

More needs to be made of the difference in weights. And medium is sneaking, sorry but it fits.

There should be bigger resistance differences etc I think, but yes considering most of PvP is in heavy sneak / bank passives give this weight a reason

Except that sneaking is a niche activity that only affects a fraction of pve activities. And again, there’s a sneak cost reduction in legerdmain. No need for two.

That is a terrible idea. Many people actually play stealth. Just because it doesn't fit your specific needs does not mean it is bad.

Medium armor gives us reduced cost, resource regen, crit chance, raw damage, reduced cost of dodge roll, sprint speed, and then the sneak bonuses. Light armor's only bonus is pen, but since light doesn't get the 12% base damage buff I'm more than happy to make that up elsewhere.

It's already pretty well balanced. Deal with having one optional passive that doesn't suit you. Or buy your armor at Build A Bear, I dunno.

Between Light and Medium, I don't think you can say Medium is crap.
Light got spell resist but even with that, their resists are lower than Medium (because of lower base values). Medium has to use Blade Cloak ? You know what, Light has to use shield. Light has penetration, very happy as healer to have that, would prefer spell damage, not every Light user is a DD.
Both armors have critical, regen and cost reduction.
Everything else is a bonus for Medium, since Light have nothing else.

No thank you, I like my stealthy nighblades

I suggested that they would make a passive that gives major evasion at all times, and maybe add something else for sustain to shuffle. Not need much of a coding for that..