In my opinion, NORDS are most in need of some love. The max health is nice but less than Imperials. The health recovery is ok, but in line with Orcs who also get a bonus to healing received which is far more important than the slow recovery, plus they get a dps buff. Cold resistance is somewhat of a joke considering there is very little cold damage and tons of fire damage and lightning damage (both pve and pvp). The only dps bump Nords get is the 6% to max stamina. So in theory they should be absolute Gods when it comes to tanking, yet many BiS builds you see (specifically looking at Alcast and Woeler) have them as only third or fourth best behind Argonians and Imperials, and even with Orcs. So they have no magicka (dps or healing), extremely minimal stamina bump (bottom tier dps for stam), and health, health recovery and damage resist which only makes them the third or fourth best tank. Time to give Nords some love.

I'll admit that for races I don't play, I don't know as much about their limitations. That's why I'm trying to get everyone's opinion.

Breton at least get Magicka. Nords get health regen. With CPs, their damage mitigation passive is weak, any other race can be as tanky, and still have more resources to work with.

I know why I would play an Altmer, an Argonian, a Dunmer, an Imperial, a Khajiit, a Redguard... excluding aesthetics (and as I'm not into RP), I can't see why I would roll up a Bosmer, a Breton, a Nord, or an Orc.

There may well be good reasons, I just don't grasp them.

Come on, is that really a question? Orcs need definetely a buff, as we are the only race, that have a passive which is ONLY useful for alts. Mainchars don't get a benefit when all their professions are 50.

Dark Elf - 50% less damage of lava (useful for alts + mains)
Argonian - increases swimming speed by 50% (useful for alts + mains)
Nord - 15 min more drink-time (cool for Psijic Ambrosia) (useful for alts + mains)
Breton - 1% more Alliance points gained (useful for alts + mains)
Redguard - 15 min more buffood-time (useful for alts + mains)
High Elf - 1% more experience gained (useful for alts + mains)
Khajiit - increases chance to successfully pickpocket by 5% (useful for alts + mains)
Wood Elf - decreases fall damage taken by 10% (useful for alts + mains)
Imperial - 1% more gold gained (useful for alts + mains)
Orc - 10% more inspiration (useful for alts)

pretty clear trend

give`em shouts

BEcause I'm an imperial lol

Ilithyania wrote: »

give`em shouts

how could u translate this into a passive bonus (they used to have battle cries in past eso games)

i mean id think a small bonus to frost and physical damage would be nice (for example 3%) instead of the health recovery

Definitely Nords, the only race that manages to be master of nothing and niche at the same time

I'm going to join the Nord horde here - as far as I know, they aren't really the top, second or even third choice for most builds except maybe some very niche PVP tank types. They have improved over the years but need something to make them stand out even more.

I'll add that the Imperial's Red Diamond passive needs to be looked at as well, either replaced with something more useful or buff it. Personally I wouldn't mind seeing them get a Max Magicka bonus as has been suggested in the forums before, to truly bring them back to being the most flexible racial choice.

Well, they are Altmer. Unreasonable to waste anything on the rest.

WhitePawPrints wrote: »

red_emu wrote: »

What we see:

If only one race were to get a buff, which needs it the most?

What ZOS sees:

If only one race were to get a nerf, which needs it the most?

I don’t know. ZoS is likely to look at this thread and see Nord top votes, then decide to not buff Nord but to Nerf the other eight races.

Truest words have never been uttered sir

ANGEL_BtVS wrote: »

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

Ilithyania wrote: »

give`em shouts

how could u translate this into a passive bonus (they used to have battle cries in past eso games)

i mean id think a small bonus to frost and physical damage would be nice (for example 3%) instead of the health recovery

I think adding a bonus to frost and physical damage makes sense in theory, but unfortunately the entire Winter's Embrace skill line for Warden's is magicka based. Otherwise, yeah, Nords would make perfect sense as Wardens with the animal and frost skills. Nords (like Vikings) should be ferocious warriors, it's pretty sad that they are at the bottom of the list in terms of dps.

Nords are too drunk to be entrusted with magic.