Should account wide Level Up Advisor rewards be awarded retroactively?

Merlin13KAGL · January 2018

Other

RaddlemanNumber7 wrote: »

Can you imagine if a government did this in real life...

Children will each receive a new bicycle when they reach the age of ten, but children who are already 10 years old or older won't get one. People will get a free loot bag, which may include the keys to a customised motorcycle, when they reach the ages of 20, 30 and 50, but people who have already reached those ages won't. People who are already 50 years old or older will get absolutely nothing.

There would be tears. There would be riots.

But this isn't real life. It's ESO. So, it's ZOS's call, and I happy with that. If these rewards were made retrospectively I think it would be a nightmare for ZOS to work exactly what each player is due to get. Avoiding that cost has got to be a good thing, surely. There are much better things for them to be doing with their time and revenue.

I know I'll eventually level some more new characters from 1 to 50. The free stuff isn't going to disappear in the meantime. I'm prepared to wait.

Actually, your analogy is almost perfect, because most reasonable people would have zero desire for this

when they already had this

Dojohoda · January 2018

No

I'm looking forward to seeing a lot of level 3's running around. I'm going to be one of them.

Might be cool to finish Clockwork City on the new toon, get that cwc 150% XP boost item reward and then use it!

Princess_Ciri · January 2018

No

idk why some people are so desperate for their crown store poisons. But ok!

Aebaradath · January 2018

No

No. And truth be told, the milestone rewards aren't really worth re-leveling a character, unless, for some reason, you really really want 3 Crates, an Undaunted Key and a free mount.

However, they should give that character slot to everyone for free. Something that, in my opinion, they should've done back when they released the Morrowind Chapter with the Warden Class. But alas.

SGT_Wolfe101st · January 2018

Other

Cpt_Teemo wrote: »

SGT_Wolfe101st wrote: »

I do feel for those with max character slots, and a couple of the rewards are something we all want, 1) free storage locker 2) costume change token 3) the crown crate. If those or something along those lines were given as a longevity reward, say having been on-line for X amount of time or some other reasonable measure of loyalty then I think all would be ok.

That won't work for casuals, that is what Korean MMO's do I don't think we need another BDOESO 2.0

I didn't word that very well, what I meant was having an active account for x period of time, whatever ZOS/community thinks is reasonable measure of "being here". Say having an active account since pre-1T, if you have that you are granted a box o' goodies that is similar to the leveling rewards.

Korah_Eaglecry · January 2018

iNSiPiD1 wrote: »

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

If they retroactively give players these rewards than I demand that ZOS give new players every crown crate from every Crown Crate Event retroactively. I also demand that I retroactively be given the Tiger Senche as Ive been subbed to ESO for far longer than a year on PS4. Its unfair that players that played the first year was given something that no one else was able to earn. Thats unfair.

This is different. How can you not see that the arguments you made there are NOT THE SAME?!?!

Youre right they are different, you can still make a new character and earn all of those rewards. Me, Ill never ever get that Tiger Senche because I cant time-travel.

But I still want that Senche...Since this thread is all about unreasonable demands from greedy players. I might as well throw my wants in the hat.

supaskrub · January 2018

No

My characters are already levelled and done so of my own free will because I wanted to do so, I didn't do it because of a free crown crate...

Lets face it that is why we are having this debate/poll.. you want three free crown crates rewarded to you retroactively for each character you levelled to level 50... would you still be asking this same question if crown crates were not in the levelling up rewards table, lets say you just received a "green" training dagger. ? I think not.

For me and many others that would equate to 42 crown crates (3 per character) given gratis just for doing something that is natural progression and normal game play before this new levelling system was implemented.. I did not miss it then and I wont miss it now,

thedude33 · January 2018

No

Princess_Ciri wrote: »

idk why some people are so desperate for their crown store poisons. But ok!

Exactly. After reading this post I thought ZOS must be giving away something amazing to new players that existing players couldn't get or didn't have. Peaked my interest until I read exactly what a new player received. smh

Zorgon_The_Revenged · January 2018

No

Good carrot! Gz zos.

starkerealm · January 2018

In a perfect world? Yeah. But, I'm not too worried about it overall. When it looked like the Soul Shriven motif was getting moved down to 40... yeah, that would have needed to be addressed.

Also, the part where the storage coffer is set at level 18 is kinda annoying. Not a deal breaker, but I could see where that would irk some people, since the alternate costs are somewhat steep (100 vouchers, 100k Tel Var, or Crowns).

Merlin13KAGL · January 2018

Other

starkerealm wrote: »

In a perfect world? Yeah. But, I'm not too worried about it overall. When it looked like the Soul Shriven motif was getting moved down to 40... yeah, that would have needed to be addressed.

Also, the part where the storage coffer is set at level 18 is kinda annoying. Not a deal breaker, but I could see where that would irk some people, since the alternate costs are somewhat steep (100 vouchers, 100k Tel Var, or Crowns).

If the Crown cost ends up being less than or equal to the 15th character slot cost, it's a no-brainer.

Will take no time at all to hit level 18.

AardvarkChips · January 2018

Furcula wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Do you think your poll is going to somehow make them change what they've already stated?
Buy the extra slot.

Make one more character, one time.

Profit.

I'm always interested to hear community feedback!

Tandor wrote: »

I think the greed is primarily on the part of those players who don't like the idea of someone else getting something they haven't got.

There are players that have purchased the maximum allowable character slots and leveled them all to 50. In these cases where obviously the player has spent a lot of money and time into the game, they will have to purchase another slot to get these rewards. I feel like that is a bad move on ZOS's part

Agreed. In the real world, retroactive isn't really doable, in most cases, but this is electronic monopoly money. What does it truly cost zos to reward players for the time and effort they've already put in? A couple of keystrokes?

Cpt_Teemo · January 2018

Yes

Princess_Ciri wrote: »

idk why some people are so desperate for their crown store poisons. But ok!

Or it could be an exclusive non apex mount right

Cpt_Teemo · January 2018

Yes

AardvarkChips wrote: »

Furcula wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Do you think your poll is going to somehow make them change what they've already stated?
Buy the extra slot.

Make one more character, one time.

Profit.

I'm always interested to hear community feedback!

Tandor wrote: »

I think the greed is primarily on the part of those players who don't like the idea of someone else getting something they haven't got.

There are players that have purchased the maximum allowable character slots and leveled them all to 50. In these cases where obviously the player has spent a lot of money and time into the game, they will have to purchase another slot to get these rewards. I feel like that is a bad move on ZOS's part

Agreed. In the real world, retroactive isn't really doable, in most cases, but this is electronic monopoly money. What does it truly cost zos to reward players for the time and effort they've already put in? A couple of keystrokes?

1 button

Elsonso · January 2018

No

Cpt_Teemo wrote: »

AardvarkChips wrote: »

Furcula wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Do you think your poll is going to somehow make them change what they've already stated?
Buy the extra slot.

Make one more character, one time.

Profit.

I'm always interested to hear community feedback!

Tandor wrote: »

I think the greed is primarily on the part of those players who don't like the idea of someone else getting something they haven't got.

There are players that have purchased the maximum allowable character slots and leveled them all to 50. In these cases where obviously the player has spent a lot of money and time into the game, they will have to purchase another slot to get these rewards. I feel like that is a bad move on ZOS's part

Agreed. In the real world, retroactive isn't really doable, in most cases, but this is electronic monopoly money. What does it truly cost zos to reward players for the time and effort they've already put in? A couple of keystrokes?

1 button

(It's more than "1 button")

Runschei · January 2018

Yes

Ydrisselle wrote: »

Runschei wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Runschei wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Runschei wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Runschei wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Do you think your poll is going to somehow make them change what they've already stated?
Buy the extra slot.

Make one more character, one time.

Profit.

I love doing mages guild and skyshards all over again!

Which has exactly nothing to do with Level-Up-Advisor rewards.

If that's all you're after, you don't have to do any of those things.

In my case I'd have to delete one fully maxed character, only to re level it and get skyshards + mages guild all over again. I don't know about you but I can't play a character without skill points andthe mages guild benefits are huge.

@Runschei, no, you don't.

You can buy another slot, or you can do without the mediocre rewards. Again, if you're just after the level up rewards, skillpoints and Guild lines are absolutely not necessary.

They're making the 15th slot available just for this purpose. If you did have to choose between nuking an alt and getting a 10k brown horse, you might actually have a legitimate complaint.
Crown cost of the extra slot.

<50 hours, with no rush whatsoever, if you level at super-eventual-casual mode.

Well. I am deleting a currently fully functioning character with gear and skills and everything, only to get these rewards while leveling this exact character all over again to make him fully functioning.

Then that's on you.

Buy. Another. Slot.

Currently do have 8/8 and I don't plan on buying an extra character slot for this sole purpose simply because my budget as a student doesn't allow it. Getting DLC's is hard enough for me

Buy one month of ESO+. You will get 1500 crowns, which is the price of one charslot. I think that's the cheapest way...

Well, thing is that I did buy ESO+ so I have it out January. But I got it before ZOS announced this level up advisor and I already spent a few crowns, so that's unfortunate I guess.

Enslaved wrote: »

You carry scrolls pretty good for a student

Why thank you!

kargen27 · January 2018

No

No.

Kwik1 · January 2018

No

I think it is an awesome idea to encourage new players.

Think about it, next time you talk to someone who hasn't tried the game you can tell them about the great leveling system now. You can start with "Why back in my day we had to actually buy our first horse!" and then proceed to tell them all the cool stuff they will get.

Really people, we have all been playing a long time. If anyone here hasn't been playing a long time then starting a new toon is no big deal. If you have been and don't want a new toon then that probably means nothing on the list matters much. As far the free loot boxes, we just got 6 free for ESO+ members already.

Let the new players have something special for them since they have a LONG way to go with CP's to do anything meaningful in the game.

NyassaV · January 2018

Yes

They should but they won't. They are using people to test it, like they did with the dungeon queue event back in 2017

Mazbt · January 2018

Yes

As long as it only applies to ONE and only one of my characters (as opposed to getting X 12 reward bundles in the mail)

NewBlacksmurf · January 2018

Other

I'd suggest this poll in PTS not general. if the intent is feedback

Danikat · January 2018

Yes

It doesn't really affect me since my lowest level character is level 4. (And if I really wanted to I could level my mule, or delete him and use the slot.) But I think it would make sense to make at least the account-wide rewards that won't be available anywhere else after this system comes in account-wide.

I doubt most max level players would want the majority of the level up rewards (the equipment especially would be useless if you're not the right level), but I doubt anyone would turn down a free crown crate, a few thousand gold and some crown store consumables and costumes/pets if given the chance.

(Actually...I did turn down a free pet - the basilisk thing - because I didn't like it and I'd delete or hide the Nix Ox if I could. But there's always one awkward person.)

AardvarkChips · January 2018

The brassilisk is awesome. It flies behind me, when I run, and it spreads its wings and hisses at everybody going past.

xaraan · January 2018

Yes

For major rewards like the crates, costume, storage chest, etc. - yes - we shouldn't be penalized for having already been playing their game.

But someone had mentioned they are adding another slot for characters, so I guess that's a decent option if true, we can level a new character and get the rewards. Still missing out on the 14 other characters, but I guess that's what MMOs are about - taking care of noobs at expense of vets.

Majeure · January 2018

Other

It'd be nice of them to give you those rewards retroactively, but I think it's also fair to require you to actually play to get them. It's not asking much to level a new character, leveling a character can be done really quickly.

Also I'd rather have it this way, with them letting us buy an extra character slot than get some junk in the mail.

DoctorESO · January 2018

Yes

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DoctorESO · January 2018

Yes

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Garwulf · January 2018

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

iNSiPiD1 wrote: »

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

If they retroactively give players these rewards than I demand that ZOS give new players every crown crate from every Crown Crate Event retroactively. I also demand that I retroactively be given the Tiger Senche as Ive been subbed to ESO for far longer than a year on PS4. Its unfair that players that played the first year was given something that no one else was able to earn. Thats unfair.

This is different. How can you not see that the arguments you made there are NOT THE SAME?!?!

Youre right they are different, you can still make a new character and earn all of those rewards. Me, Ill never ever get that Tiger Senche because I cant time-travel.

But I still want that Senche...Since this thread is all about unreasonable demands from greedy players. I might as well throw my wants in the hat.

That Senche was the" only'" thing we got for subsidising the development of the Console game.

Tasear · January 2018

Other

Don't care

elantaura · January 2018

It depends.
No As long as I can bank the motif - as many have poured millions into crafting on one character we should be able to easily move it too that character - without accidentally learning due to say lag delay and button press. Honestly I'd prefer that every character got this retroactively and every character that passed 40 in future.
Everything else has a way of being acquired in game mounts,gems, crates we have got before for free,gold even storage.
so yes it should be if we are shut out from the possibility of earning/procuring in game.or have had at some point like crates
Otherwise it does not matter.