Should account wide Level Up Advisor rewards be awarded retroactively?

Furcula · January 2018

With the way things are going now, you will have to level up a brand new character to gain the account wide level up rewards, and these include crown crate, housing storage box and costume. Some of which are crown only rewards.

If you are currently maxed out on character slots, you will have to purchase a new slot in able to gain these rewards.

From my point of view, this move is completely based on greed from ZOS and devalues player loyalty. It's not even about the free stuff, it's ZOS saying that they'd rather have players spend more money than awarding them for being long term players.

On the other hand, it doesn't matter quite as much unless the items are exclusive to level up advisor. Which it appears that the Prisoner's rag type might be as a lvl 40 reward? Can someone confirm?

Do you think these rewards should be awarded retroactively? If so, how come? Curious to hear what the community thinks.

Merlin13KAGL · January 2018

Other

Do you think your poll is going to somehow make them change what they've already stated?

Buy the extra slot.
Make one more character, one time.
Profit.

Tandor · January 2018

No

I think the greed is primarily on the part of those players who don't like the idea of someone else getting something they haven't got.

AzraelKrieg · January 2018

No

You mean retroactively

Runschei · January 2018

Yes

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Do you think your poll is going to somehow make them change what they've already stated?
Buy the extra slot.

Make one more character, one time.

Profit.

I love doing mages guild and skyshards all over again!

Nestor · January 2018

No

I would have leveled those characters anyway, so the addition of some new trivial rewards would not have changed that.

Merlin13KAGL · January 2018

Other

Runschei wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Do you think your poll is going to somehow make them change what they've already stated?
Buy the extra slot.

Make one more character, one time.

Profit.

I love doing mages guild and skyshards all over again!

Which has exactly nothing to do with Level-Up-Advisor rewards.

If that's all you're after, you don't have to do any of those things.

Furcula · January 2018

Yes

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Do you think your poll is going to somehow make them change what they've already stated?
Buy the extra slot.

Make one more character, one time.

Profit.

I'm always interested to hear community feedback!

Tandor wrote: »

I think the greed is primarily on the part of those players who don't like the idea of someone else getting something they haven't got.

There are players that have purchased the maximum allowable character slots and leveled them all to 50. In these cases where obviously the player has spent a lot of money and time into the game, they will have to purchase another slot to get these rewards. I feel like that is a bad move on ZOS's part

Enslaved · January 2018

Yes

Yes. Or, if they give us more slots, I would buy them and level chars to get rewards.
Please Zenimax Online, sell us more character slots.
Also, do fix pre Morrowind chars missing one skill point issue.

Onigar · January 2018

Yes

This change is not really very different to some others in the past where a character had already achieved the goal and was then awarded the reward after the patch was released.

I read the notes for Dragonbones but it did not indicate these rewards were not going to be applied retrospectively.

Maybe I read wrong?

Runschei · January 2018

Yes

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Runschei wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Do you think your poll is going to somehow make them change what they've already stated?
Buy the extra slot.

Make one more character, one time.

Profit.

I love doing mages guild and skyshards all over again!

Which has exactly nothing to do with Level-Up-Advisor rewards.

If that's all you're after, you don't have to do any of those things.

In my case I'd have to delete one fully maxed character, only to re level it and get skyshards + mages guild all over again. I don't know about you but I can't play a character without skill points andthe mages guild benefits are huge.

Nestor · January 2018

No

Enslaved wrote: »

Yes. Or, if they give us more slots, I would buy them and level chars to get rewards.
Please Zenimax Online, sell us more character slots.
Also, do fix pre Morrowind chars missing one skill point issue.

@Enslaved

A 15th Slot is being added to the game. Must purchase through the Crown Store.

Melilotta · January 2018

Yes

I still have some low-level characters, so for me this doesn't matter so much, but surely there are people with 14 maxed characters, so they simply can't buy another slot, and deleting a character for the sake of some rewards seems too extreme.

Dracane · January 2018

Yes

We will take the opportunity to level some gank characters to put an end to leechers in the Imperial City. So this actually comes in handy.

Still I think the crown crates for example should be retroactively rewarded.

Saturnana · January 2018

Other

I understand that the rewards are not handed out retroactively and that doesn't bother me. What I would like to see though, is the 15th character slot from the same update being added to all accounts automatically/retroactively and without cost.

Wanting to level a new character for some shiny new rewards is one thing; having to make a real-money purchase to be able to do so is something else entirely. (EDIT: assuming a situation where the player is at their max. amount of characters, of course). And yes, you could delete any of your leveled/old/mule/etc. toons, but adding features to a game should not force the players to delete the work they've put into said game.

Haquor · January 2018

No

Entitlement level 4000.

If the new rewards mean all that much to you... level a new character.

If your slots are full and you are adamant about not paying for another one then really have a good look at the rewards.
I mean a horse... a costume... some gambling crates for more superficial ***... maybe an experience scroll you wont use cause you dont want to level a new character.

The only thing worth it is the 30 slot coffer that you can buy for some tel var or writ vouchers.

I for one voted no on your poll.

I accept that there will be developments and new rewards implemented ingame to encourage new players to the game and make money for ZOS. Its a business after all. I dont expect that cause i have been here for years i automatically be handed ***.

I still have the opportunity to get these new rewards if i m choose.

Enslaved · January 2018

Yes

Nestor wrote: »

Enslaved wrote: »

Yes. Or, if they give us more slots, I would buy them and level chars to get rewards.
Please Zenimax Online, sell us more character slots.
Also, do fix pre Morrowind chars missing one skill point issue.

@Enslaved

A 15th Slot is being added to the game. Must purchase through the Crown Store.

I am glad

Mady · January 2018

No

Playing since beta - I leveled SOOO many characters to 50 and I'm okay with it.
It's not really meant for veterans it's for new people to keep going.

Slick_007 · January 2018

No

someone hasnt been paying attention and didnt bother to read the information supplied by zos before making this thread.

Furcula · January 2018

Yes

Haquor wrote: »

Entitlement level 4000.

If the new rewards mean all that much to you... level a new character.

If your slots are full and you are adamant about not paying for another one then really have a good look at the rewards.
I mean a horse... a costume... some gambling crates for more superficial ***... maybe an experience scroll you wont use cause you dont want to level a new character.

The only thing worth it is the 30 slot coffer that you can buy for some tel var or writ vouchers.

I for one voted no on your poll.

I accept that there will be developments and new rewards implemented ingame to encourage new players to the game and make money for ZOS. Its a business after all. I dont expect that cause i have been here for years i automatically be handed ***.

I still have the opportunity to get these new rewards if i m choose.

If im not missing anything, the Prisoner's rag motif will be exclusive to the level up advisor. Correct me if I'm wrong though

bodge2372 · January 2018

No

So you say it's a greed from ZOS to get people to buy more character slots. Isn't it greed on the part of people who want it applied retroactively? I still have 4 character slots left which I would've paid to unlock regardless of this new thing. And you seem to forget ZOS is actually a business and what does a business do? Thats right, MAKE MONEY....stop sulking and get over it.

Robo_Hobo · January 2018

No

There might be some mid to even high level players that still could actually learn something from the level up advisor, so if the temptation of getting these new rewards helps them decide to start a new character for them, and they do learn a couple things about building their character, then I'd say that's an extra success.

Blkadr · January 2018

Yes

I had no idea they were offering a 15th character slot at all, I assumed we would be stuck with 14 and people would have to delete a high-level character to get the rewards, so I'm happy about that. Personally I created a new character for this as my 14th and he's been training his horse every day and not leaving town so he doesn't accidentally level up. I'm just hoping for some of those costumes I missed out on during the holiday events, like maybe the Treasure Hunter or of course the Dark Shaman.

Elsonso · January 2018

No

No, but I think they should increase the base number of character slots to 9.

Merlin13KAGL · January 2018

Other

Furcula wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Do you think your poll is going to somehow make them change what they've already stated?
Buy the extra slot.

Make one more character, one time.

Profit.

I'm always interested to hear community feedback!

Tandor wrote: »

I think the greed is primarily on the part of those players who don't like the idea of someone else getting something they haven't got.

There are players that have purchased the maximum allowable character slots and leveled them all to 50. In these cases where obviously the player has spent a lot of money and time into the game, they will have to purchase another slot to get these rewards. I feel like that is a bad move on ZOS's part

@Furcula ZoS has given plenty of opportunity for free stuff to those players, though. How many free crates have you been able to earn that some new player starting tomorrow didn't get?

Do tell? What reward on the tier list is so incredible that you would feel wronged by not having? The 10k brown horse you'll never ride? Maybe those 5 blue/purple weapons you'll just decon for mats?

Aside from the storage container (which is accessible other ways), I'm not seeing anything on the list that just makes me want to weep in the corner if I do without?

Runschei wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Runschei wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Do you think your poll is going to somehow make them change what they've already stated?
Buy the extra slot.

Make one more character, one time.

Profit.

I love doing mages guild and skyshards all over again!

Which has exactly nothing to do with Level-Up-Advisor rewards.

If that's all you're after, you don't have to do any of those things.

In my case I'd have to delete one fully maxed character, only to re level it and get skyshards + mages guild all over again. I don't know about you but I can't play a character without skill points andthe mages guild benefits are huge.

@Runschei, no, you don't.

You can buy another slot, or you can do without the mediocre rewards. Again, if you're just after the level up rewards, skillpoints and Guild lines are absolutely not necessary.

They're making the 15th slot available just for this purpose. If you did have to choose between nuking an alt and getting a 10k brown horse, you might actually have a legitimate complaint.

Crown cost of the extra slot.
<50 hours, with no rush whatsoever, if you level at super-eventual-casual mode.

Anyone still wanting these to be retroactive, please point out the reward that is just make-or-break, please. Because I don't see it.

Furcula wrote: »

Haquor wrote: »

Entitlement level 4000.

If the new rewards mean all that much to you... level a new character.

If your slots are full and you are adamant about not paying for another one then really have a good look at the rewards.
I mean a horse... a costume... some gambling crates for more superficial ***... maybe an experience scroll you wont use cause you dont want to level a new character.

The only thing worth it is the 30 slot coffer that you can buy for some tel var or writ vouchers.

I for one voted no on your poll.

I accept that there will be developments and new rewards implemented ingame to encourage new players to the game and make money for ZOS. Its a business after all. I dont expect that cause i have been here for years i automatically be handed ***.

I still have the opportunity to get these new rewards if i m choose.

If im not missing anything, the Prisoner's rag motif will be exclusive to the level up advisor. Correct me if I'm wrong though

Consider yourself corrected.

You don't get the motif. You get the costume. The motif is still a reward for Cadwell's Silver. It was corrected on the PTS.

Runschei · January 2018

Yes

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Runschei wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Runschei wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Do you think your poll is going to somehow make them change what they've already stated?
Buy the extra slot.

Make one more character, one time.

Profit.

I love doing mages guild and skyshards all over again!

Which has exactly nothing to do with Level-Up-Advisor rewards.

If that's all you're after, you don't have to do any of those things.

In my case I'd have to delete one fully maxed character, only to re level it and get skyshards + mages guild all over again. I don't know about you but I can't play a character without skill points andthe mages guild benefits are huge.

@Runschei, no, you don't.

You can buy another slot, or you can do without the mediocre rewards. Again, if you're just after the level up rewards, skillpoints and Guild lines are absolutely not necessary.

They're making the 15th slot available just for this purpose. If you did have to choose between nuking an alt and getting a 10k brown horse, you might actually have a legitimate complaint.
Crown cost of the extra slot.

<50 hours, with no rush whatsoever, if you level at super-eventual-casual mode.

Well. I am deleting a currently fully functioning character with gear and skills and everything, only to get these rewards while leveling this exact character all over again to make him fully functioning.

Ilithyania · January 2018

No

inventory already full.

Merlin13KAGL · January 2018

Other

Runschei wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Runschei wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Runschei wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Do you think your poll is going to somehow make them change what they've already stated?
Buy the extra slot.

Make one more character, one time.

Profit.

I love doing mages guild and skyshards all over again!

Which has exactly nothing to do with Level-Up-Advisor rewards.

If that's all you're after, you don't have to do any of those things.

In my case I'd have to delete one fully maxed character, only to re level it and get skyshards + mages guild all over again. I don't know about you but I can't play a character without skill points andthe mages guild benefits are huge.

@Runschei, no, you don't.

You can buy another slot, or you can do without the mediocre rewards. Again, if you're just after the level up rewards, skillpoints and Guild lines are absolutely not necessary.

They're making the 15th slot available just for this purpose. If you did have to choose between nuking an alt and getting a 10k brown horse, you might actually have a legitimate complaint.
Crown cost of the extra slot.

<50 hours, with no rush whatsoever, if you level at super-eventual-casual mode.

Well. I am deleting a currently fully functioning character with gear and skills and everything, only to get these rewards while leveling this exact character all over again to make him fully functioning.

Then that's on you.

Buy. Another. Slot.

Runschei · January 2018

Yes

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Runschei wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Runschei wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Runschei wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Do you think your poll is going to somehow make them change what they've already stated?
Buy the extra slot.

Make one more character, one time.

Profit.

I love doing mages guild and skyshards all over again!

Which has exactly nothing to do with Level-Up-Advisor rewards.

If that's all you're after, you don't have to do any of those things.

In my case I'd have to delete one fully maxed character, only to re level it and get skyshards + mages guild all over again. I don't know about you but I can't play a character without skill points andthe mages guild benefits are huge.

@Runschei, no, you don't.

You can buy another slot, or you can do without the mediocre rewards. Again, if you're just after the level up rewards, skillpoints and Guild lines are absolutely not necessary.

They're making the 15th slot available just for this purpose. If you did have to choose between nuking an alt and getting a 10k brown horse, you might actually have a legitimate complaint.
Crown cost of the extra slot.

<50 hours, with no rush whatsoever, if you level at super-eventual-casual mode.

Well. I am deleting a currently fully functioning character with gear and skills and everything, only to get these rewards while leveling this exact character all over again to make him fully functioning.

Then that's on you.

Buy. Another. Slot.

Currently do have 8/8 and I don't plan on buying an extra character slot for this sole purpose simply because my budget as a student doesn't allow it. Getting DLC's is hard enough for me

Elsonso · January 2018

No

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Runschei wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Runschei wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Runschei wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Do you think your poll is going to somehow make them change what they've already stated?
Buy the extra slot.

Make one more character, one time.

Profit.

I love doing mages guild and skyshards all over again!

Which has exactly nothing to do with Level-Up-Advisor rewards.

If that's all you're after, you don't have to do any of those things.

In my case I'd have to delete one fully maxed character, only to re level it and get skyshards + mages guild all over again. I don't know about you but I can't play a character without skill points andthe mages guild benefits are huge.

@Runschei, no, you don't.

You can buy another slot, or you can do without the mediocre rewards. Again, if you're just after the level up rewards, skillpoints and Guild lines are absolutely not necessary.

They're making the 15th slot available just for this purpose. If you did have to choose between nuking an alt and getting a 10k brown horse, you might actually have a legitimate complaint.
Crown cost of the extra slot.

<50 hours, with no rush whatsoever, if you level at super-eventual-casual mode.

Well. I am deleting a currently fully functioning character with gear and skills and everything, only to get these rewards while leveling this exact character all over again to make him fully functioning.

Then that's on you.

Buy. Another. Slot.

Slots are expensive. Is it really worth it to spend that much on a slot when a character can be deleted and recreated for free?

Minyassa · January 2018

Other

No, but I think they should give that new character slot away for free.

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