Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Anyone still wanting these to be retroactive, please point out the reward that is just make-or-break, please. Because I don't see it.

You could pretty much guarantee it's for those 3 crown crates (ignoring the 15+ free we've already received to date), and not for the free crown-store food and the L16 glyphs.

Or at least I'd hope it's that way around.

lordrichter wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Runschei wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Runschei wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Runschei wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Do you think your poll is going to somehow make them change what they've already stated?

1. Buy the extra slot.
2. Make one more character, one time.
3. Profit.

I love doing mages guild and skyshards all over again!

Which has exactly nothing to do with Level-Up-Advisor rewards.

If that's all you're after, you don't have to do any of those things.

In my case I'd have to delete one fully maxed character, only to re level it and get skyshards + mages guild all over again. I don't know about you but I can't play a character without skill points andthe mages guild benefits are huge.

@Runschei, no, you don't.

You can buy another slot, or you can do without the mediocre rewards. Again, if you're just after the level up rewards, skillpoints and Guild lines are absolutely not necessary.

They're making the 15th slot available just for this purpose. If you did have to choose between nuking an alt and getting a 10k brown horse, you might actually have a legitimate complaint.

1. Crown cost of the extra slot.
2. <50 hours, with no rush whatsoever, if you level at super-eventual-casual mode.

Well. I am deleting a currently fully functioning character with gear and skills and everything, only to get these rewards while leveling this exact character all over again to make him fully functioning.

Then that's on you.

Buy. Another. Slot.

Slots are expensive. Is it really worth it to spend that much on a slot when a character can be deleted and recreated for free?

Not sure if serious or sarcastic?

My point being, there is a choice (three, in fact). If the time allotted to an existing character is worth less than the rewards, then delete it is.

If it's not, and you don't currently have the funds for another slot, wait till later or do without the rewards.

If you have the $ and want to save existing characters, buy a slot.

I'm guessing there are ways to earn enough, even as a student, if it's really something you're interested in.

EDIT: On a side note, I'm a little disappointed no one has tried to turn this into a P2W argument yet...?

Seri wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Anyone still wanting these to be retroactive, please point out the reward that is just make-or-break, please. Because I don't see it.

You could pretty much guarantee it's for those 3 crown crates (ignoring the 15+ free we've already received to date), and not for the free crown-store food and the L16 glyphs.

Or at least I'd hope it's that way around.

For me it is the crown crates and the costumes. the 20K gold would come in handy aswell tbh.

voted no just because i wanted to say this..... they dont have to give any rewards to any leveling character, yet they added this because they wanted to, and now you feel entitled? lol

Seri wrote: »

Runschei wrote: »

Seri wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Anyone still wanting these to be retroactive, please point out the reward that is just make-or-break, please. Because I don't see it.

You could pretty much guarantee it's for those 3 crown crates (ignoring the 15+ free we've already received to date), and not for the free crown-store food and the L16 glyphs.

Or at least I'd hope it's that way around.

For me it is the crown crates and the costumes. the 20K gold would come in handy aswell tbh.

You can get 20k gold in an hour or so by thieving - 8 toons, I assume at least one of them has the Blade of Woe. Even quicker if you do loops through a Vvardenfell town, launder and sell any motifs. Much faster than levelling 3-50.

I know my stealing, I do 40K pr char daily if I want to. I am not saying I need those 20K and rely on them, they would just be nice. Free 20K isn't something you decline now is it? Personally I would just donate to guild bank or spend it on housing.

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

How many played hours would you lose deleting one character for 20k gold, some crown poisons, and a shoulder tattoo?

How much extra money could you earn IRL with that same amount of hours? Enough to buy an additional slot, I'm guessing?

Would be losing about 168 hours on that character, and would take me about 4-5h to get it to max level, not mages guild and skyshards. And how much money I could earn after 5+ hours? First I would have to get a job in my area, and believe me I have tried, but no jobs are available in, around or nearby my town.

And yeah, maybe I would get crown poisons and a shoulder tattoo (that I can't show because vampirism) but hey, I could turn those poisons in and get more gems so I can get something I actually found interesting from the crates.

They should have been retroactive, but I won’t mind leveling up a new toon for the awards. My Level 4 Warden needs to serve a purpose eventually.

I’m glad to see them add these rewards to the game. Most of us who have played a while already have plenty of mounts and costumes and pets. I don’t feel like anything has been taken away from me just because they are adding features that would’ve been nice to have when I was a new player.

I do think it would be a nice gesture of goodwill to the existing player base if they would give everyone an additional character slot token for free so those who wish to try out the new system didn’t have to pay to do it.

Tandor wrote: »

I think the greed is primarily on the part of those players who don't like the idea of someone else getting something they haven't got.

^

It's small stuff. It's for newbs. End trans.

Anotherone773 wrote: »

No, its quite common for games to give new players bonuses, rewards, and other benefits that players who have been around for ages dont get. It helps new blood come into older games as many players have the mentality that if they come into a game to late they will be to far behind or the game is to close to the end of its life.

And everyone can level up a new character, which im sure a vet character can do in a week or so. So its not that big of a deal.

It also turns away older players as well sometimes so its not always good

Welcome to the pain train that is ZOS new content.

Only time it's ever worked retro in favor of player is horses going from account to horse, if you had horse 60.

Undaunted change? Fuct.
CP change? Fuct.

On the one hand, yes, that would be nice.

On the other hand, I can't fairly expect the cratesplosion that I would get from having 14 characters+10ish deleted characters (that also leveled to 50).

My question is, I have a level 3 and level 17 alt. If I jumped on my 3 and took him to 10 collecting those rewards, then switched to my 17 could I collect the rest of the rewards 20-50? Or is it only one character

I think once per account, not per toon. I dont think it would be healthy for the market if each person to received an award per charecter

Runschei wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Runschei wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Runschei wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Runschei wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Do you think your poll is going to somehow make them change what they've already stated?

1. Buy the extra slot.
2. Make one more character, one time.
3. Profit.

I love doing mages guild and skyshards all over again!

Which has exactly nothing to do with Level-Up-Advisor rewards.

If that's all you're after, you don't have to do any of those things.

In my case I'd have to delete one fully maxed character, only to re level it and get skyshards + mages guild all over again. I don't know about you but I can't play a character without skill points andthe mages guild benefits are huge.

@Runschei, no, you don't.

You can buy another slot, or you can do without the mediocre rewards. Again, if you're just after the level up rewards, skillpoints and Guild lines are absolutely not necessary.

They're making the 15th slot available just for this purpose. If you did have to choose between nuking an alt and getting a 10k brown horse, you might actually have a legitimate complaint.

1. Crown cost of the extra slot.
2. <50 hours, with no rush whatsoever, if you level at super-eventual-casual mode.

Well. I am deleting a currently fully functioning character with gear and skills and everything, only to get these rewards while leveling this exact character all over again to make him fully functioning.

Then that's on you.

Buy. Another. Slot.

Currently do have 8/8 and I don't plan on buying an extra character slot for this sole purpose simply because my budget as a student doesn't allow it. Getting DLC's is hard enough for me

Buy one month of ESO+. You will get 1500 crowns, which is the price of one charslot. I think that's the cheapest way...