Most of the armor and weapons in ESO are not practical. Overly large weapons and boob plates are not going cut it. It’s a fantasy game at the end of the day. ESO does a pretty good job of having a little bit for everyone as far as gear goes.

PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »

Not to fear, those wounds are not fatal in ESO.

Considering you can already run around in your underwear, is it really a problem?

I agree. I want my khajiit girls in sheer panties and loincloths, like my cathar in swtor.

Just Google elder scrolls arena.
Skimpy outfits and fantasy games go hand in hand.

duendology wrote: »

For me..it just looks too bizarre and out of place when it comes to TES Lore wise.
Imagine a High Elf sorceress from the ESO cinematic trailer going into battle at that dolmen... wearing some mini-skirt, something that looks like bra, and sandals? Yeah... I'd totally "buy" that scenario LOL

ZOS could put it in the cash shop and sell it as the 'Arena' set:


When it comes to Skimpy Sorceress wear, it's all about Morathi and the Cult of Pleasure tho

Jade1986 wrote: »

I actually go into town, find a room or dark alley, lol, and change into a costume at times. Im just wierd like that tho.

With the advent of housing in ESO
have taken to recalling to one of my houses and changing into my 'city outfit' before going out and selling things in town

but that mostly reflects to my previously doing similar in Oblivion and Skyrim,
going to an Inn or my home and changing out of my adventuring gear for something more comfortable

duendology wrote: »

idk wrote: »

So a not so short skirt in ESO goes against common sense? Wow. Use of the term common sense when dealing with minor appearance choices in an MMORPG. That makes a lot of common sense.

I like to get immersed in this game, you know. So if I think whether I'd go into battle wearing simply swimming suit or wearing an armour to SURVIVE, I choose armour. But yeah, it's MMO game, just a game... so, I guess, you can run around naked with a stick up your a*rse , whistle in one hand and bottle in another... if you want to... be my guest...

that genuinely made me laugh.
but do not underestimate the Nordic Bathers with a Broom and a Bucket Contingent!

Talking about "combat realism" in a game (genre) that:

1) has hitpoint pools that mean you can get slashed dozens of times before you actually get "hurt", and

2) even when wearing what looks like armor, totally ignores physics. You think that plate armor would do a damn thing against dragon breath, getting trampled by a mammoth, or getting line-drived by a giant's club?

(I loved having the same discussion on other MMO forums - dude, you're getting hit in the head by a 20' long steel beam, swung by a 50' tall God. I don't care if you're wearing full-body plate made of 5" thick mithril slabs or a chain bikini.... "realistically" your spine is still going to be compressed to 2 inches long. )



...meanwhile, for the "how dare they go against Established TES Lore" thing. How about Nocturnal's robes, Falmer armor, or Forsworn armor, for something more recent than Arena? Also, again, costumes include civilian/town clothes, they're not limited to "what an adventurer would Realistically™ wear! Mah preshus immershuns!!!1!1!one!"

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Tapio75 wrote: »

And maybe some girls but i think women are more about stuff that makes sense unlike small boys

Maybe some girls? lol I know plenty of chicks... who play this game... who love this ***, myself included and Im no spring chicken either. Its just a costume, hell Mazzatun is pretty skimpy and its actual armor - cant wait to buy it eventually. Not every woman feels the need to cover herself up, also they are just characters - pixels man, they are just pixels! Let them be freeeeee

Personally hold distaste for the sentiment that we are 'about' particular fashion decisions,
and that skimpy clothing exists to cater to the male fantasy complex

it reinforces the sentiment that the female body is simply only ever exposed to be put on display for men
and that a woman cannot wear something 'fun' without it being about appealing to men, rather than for her own enjoyment

We need some men's shirts + short skirt combos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJL4UGSbeFg

The girls need a break, tonight we're gonna take
The chance to get out on the town
We don't need romance, we only wanna dance
We're gonna let our hair hang down

A new dawn is upon us, now it's SJWs and not "misogynist" guys who defend skimpy attire! XD

Feminism and a woman's freedom to choose what is right for her and her body have gone hand in hand since before 'SJWs' came around

but also do not count as an SJW either
have no vested interest in stopping someone from expressing his or her views about my choices,
am university educated from the days before the push for safe spaces,
and value discourse and the free expression of ideas as the most powerful capacity of a free society

also grew up in the prairies -- hunting geese and deer for food, and riding horses for fun
so am the pro-gun gal in other debates

do sometimes get labeled as an SJW when defending First Nation's rights and traditional values and lifestyles in Canada tho

People deserve to be free to tell me my attire is ugly, impractical, or 'unimmersive'
people should not be seeking control over what is available for me to wear to ensure my adherence to what they feel is 'proper' for a woman
similarly tho, prolly would not be playing ESO if chainmail bikinis were the only option made available to me

this is argonian casual wear. don't see the issue

My opinion of armpor has nothing to do with womens right to choose what they wear. As a Green party member in my country, i am strongly towards full equity and same rights regardless of person being male, female or other.

What i am trying to talk about here, is that women in Tamriel have right for protective wear that prevents injury and possibly death in battle with swords and in terms of reasonable fantasy realism, limited magickal protection that allows mages to wear cloth robes instead of armors nad those sneaky ones , leather that does not prevent pointy swords to slay them or mashing maces to bash their heads, nut protecxt them while they roll dodge in a ground from those weapons

I also understand that realism is somewhat far fetched subject in these games as we e to be realistic damage vise but at least i can wish the game to look like people are actually caring about their well being.


My wiev of clothing hen adventuring is different from what i see as a "battle standard". I too, wear nowmal clothes at home and when doing business in cities and if people wish to wear skimpy stuff in these places when they are not adventuring,

One thing w also might consider is, that we are characters in Tamriel, in Nirn.. Not people in Earth while we play. At least some of us play as characters in Tamriel

Tapio75 wrote: »

What i am trying to talk about here, is that women in Tamriel have right for protective wear that prevents injury and possibly death in battle with swords and in terms of reasonable fantasy realism,

And the women in Tamriel/ESO have that "right" - the armor in this game is quite covering/effective/'realistic'.

Most of the costumes aren't armor. They're clothes. They have no need to follow any guidelines of armor.


(Also, it's quite odd how you're talking as if all female armor & clothes in this game are skimpy/revealing/etc. When it's generally the other way - the majority of clothing is covering, and the vast majority of armor is.

edit: it seems like you should be arguing "players shouldn't be allowed to wear costumes in combat" rather than "female character are forced into skimpy armor" (for all that the latter is false to start with)