No more short skirts and stuff!!

idk

Tapio75 wrote: »

I like women with less clothing but please just keep the ESO like TES should be, reasonable armor that actually looks like it can protect the player.

ESO's available costumes is probably the most conservative in major MMORPGs. Tamriel isn't exactly puritan.

Kuramas9tails

Tapio75 wrote: »

I like women with less clothing but please just keep the ESO like TES should be, reasonable armor that actually looks like it can protect the player.

Whoah whoah whoah. If my girl wants to show some skin and slay men and monsters, it's my characters right to do so.

EvilAutoTech

Tapio75 wrote: »

it has to do with fact that women in skimpy clothes less good to small boys

This made my day.

TequilaFire

How can skimpy clothes be a problem when it has been proven by a bug that none in Tamriel have anything to cover?

rhapsodious

duendology wrote: »

For me..it just looks too bizarre and out of place when it comes to TES Lore wise.
Imagine a High Elf sorceress from the ESO cinematic trailer going into battle at that dolmen... wearing some mini-skirt, something that looks like bra, and sandals? Yeah... I'd totally "buy" that scenario LOL

You're not wrong but I guarantee there's one to several vampire Orcs in Nordic Bather's Towels dyed pink running around at that same dolmen.

Feric51

Not everyone can be the Daedric-slaying Hero(ine). Some people enjoy playing the harlot...

duendology

idk wrote: »

Tapio75 wrote: »

I like women with less clothing but please just keep the ESO like TES should be, reasonable armor that actually looks like it can protect the player.

ESO's available costumes is probably the most conservative in major MMORPGs. Tamriel isn't exactly puritan.

Puritan? You really think it's about that? I think it's about common sense. lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTGh0EMmMC8

playerkiller247

I actually like that there are non armor options for players, when I'm about to enter a dungeon or Cyrodiil I usually change into some armor, but if I feel like bumming it around Craglorn or in some city I like to wear something more casual.

idk

duendology wrote: »

idk wrote: »

Tapio75 wrote: »

I like women with less clothing but please just keep the ESO like TES should be, reasonable armor that actually looks like it can protect the player.

ESO's available costumes is probably the most conservative in major MMORPGs. Tamriel isn't exactly puritan.

Puritan? You really think it's about that? I think it's about common sense. lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTGh0EMmMC8

So a not so short skirt in ESO goes against common sense? Wow. Use of the term common sense when dealing with minor appearance choices in an MMORPG. That makes a lot of common sense.

duendology

idk wrote: »

So a not so short skirt in ESO goes against common sense? Wow. Use of the term common sense when dealing with minor appearance choices in an MMORPG. That makes a lot of common sense.

I like to get immersed in this game, you know. So if I think whether I'd go into battle wearing simply swimming suit or wearing an armour to SURVIVE, I choose armour. But yeah, it's MMO game, just a game... so, I guess, you can run around naked with a stick up your a*rse , whistle in one hand and bottle in another... if you want to... be my guest...

duendology

rhapsodious wrote: »

duendology wrote: »

For me..it just looks too bizarre and out of place when it comes to TES Lore wise.
Imagine a High Elf sorceress from the ESO cinematic trailer going into battle at that dolmen... wearing some mini-skirt, something that looks like bra, and sandals? Yeah... I'd totally "buy" that scenario LOL

You're not wrong but I guarantee there's one to several vampire Orcs in Nordic Bather's Towels dyed pink running around at that same dolmen.

Really? Damn, I need to watch this trailer again! I must have missed it!

Tapio75

Yeah. I also use normal clothing when i have a free time in a city or a village.. Or at home. It is just nice to get out of armor every now and then and im nothing against people doing this in way that makes sense.

But just dare and try to wear clothes like that and go to have a hike in a woods or something like that. I can tell you that its very restrictive to wear clothing that does not restrict yoiur movement I mean all the risks to get infected from various scratches and how the sandals collect everything on the ground at every step I think the bosmer medium armor at low levels is more sensical to wear when going to take a trip through woods and such

Jaraal

Amusing to see the cry for realism in battle gear, but how many run around in full armor but no helmet? Yes, your pretty little head will look great cleaved in two and rolling across the battlefield!

duendology

Jaraal wrote: »

Amusing to see the cry for realism in battle gear, but how many run around in full armor but no helmet? Yes, your pretty little head will look great cleaved in two and rolling across the battlefield!

I do.

But even those who keep their helmet hidden.. still look more believable to me than those in an evening dress or an outfit that looks like something proper for a beach or house party.

Still, I think it's all personal preference.I am not going to argue with that. Also it's an ever present discussion: TES Lore wise VS general conventions and "poetic justice" accepted in MMO{s}..not just TES but in general.

xaraan

Well, to look at it realistically as you try to in your example - having a robe covering your body isn't going to protect you anymore than the skirt. So in your complaint, everyone should literally be wearing full heavy armor in appearance.

I do think the "sexy" gaming player thing is kind of cheesy, but that's me. If another player enjoys it, then whatever - but the "realistic" complaint just doens't fly.

Vyle_Byte

Tapio75 wrote: »

And maybe some girls but i think women are more about stuff that makes sense unlike small boys

Maybe some girls? lol I know plenty of chicks... who play this game... who love this ***, myself included and Im no spring chicken either. Its just a costume, hell Mazzatun is pretty skimpy and its actual armor - cant wait to buy it eventually. Not every woman feels the need to cover herself up, also they are just characters - pixels man, they are just pixels! Let them be freeeeee

Tapio75

Jaraal wrote: »

Amusing to see the cry for realism in battle gear, but how many run around in full armor but no helmet? Yes, your pretty little head will look great cleaved in two and rolling across the battlefield!

I always wear helmet when going to melee fight, mages are bit different but when it rains, they often wear hoods for protection.

The Wykkyd full immersion gives me a shortcut key that i can press to quickly wear my helmet so i can take it off when it gets uncomfortable.

Those that dont use helmets, are Sin*Dorei in disguise.. "HEY! Watch the hair!

I figure the robe thing like this. Mages use protective spells in battle, so they dont need the heavy gear plus they need the freedom of movement which has stuck with me from D&D to cast spells and do somatic components of spell properly. Why not skimpy dress then? Well they still venture in forests and such so they need protection but they need light clothing as well and pockets for reagents for spells and such, pockets for some soul gems and geeral stuff, i do hope however, that they would also add an cosmetic backpack so things would make more sense. Regarding the robes and light armor in ESO. I wish they would just remove armor from clothing because it makes no sense, cloth wearer should get protection in battle from agility or spells, in TES spells as we dont have monks(Thank goddess). Then again cloth, like leather can be treated to be pretty hard so it can actually have some better protection than normal clothing.

Elissae

Tapio75 wrote: »

But just dare and try to wear clothes like that and go to have a hike in a woods or something like that. I can tell you that its very restrictive to wear clothing that does not restrict yoiur movement I mean all the risks to get infected from various scratches and how the sandals collect everything on the ground at every step I think the bosmer medium armor at low levels is more sensical to wear when going to take a trip through woods and such

Ahem:

Jungle and swamp tribes know a thing or two about living in those conditions, and tend to wear as little as possible.
Bosmer and Argonians hail from a jungle and a swamp, so those clothing wraps make a whole lot of practical sense.
(and a whole lot more sense than having a burning mount between you legs)

FakeFox

I'm pretty sure the length of your skirt doesn't matter when hit by a sword...

Jhalin

What's the big deal when 1) there's only a handful really "skimpy" costumes in the game and 2) most of them can be worn by both sexes

If you want combat ready gear only then we'd have to get rid of the casual wear costumes too, and the most recent big armor costume was...disappointing to say the least

Tapio75

Elissae wrote: »

Tapio75 wrote: »

But just dare and try to wear clothes like that and go to have a hike in a woods or something like that. I can tell you that its very restrictive to wear clothing that does not restrict yoiur movement I mean all the risks to get infected from various scratches and how the sandals collect everything on the ground at every step I think the bosmer medium armor at low levels is more sensical to wear when going to take a trip through woods and such

Ahem:

Jungle and swamp tribes know a thing or two about living in those conditions, and tend to wear as little as possible.
Bosmer and Argonians hail from a jungle and a swamp, so those clothing wraps make a whole lot of practical sense.
(and a whole lot more sense than having a burning mount between you legs)

This is actually a very good argument, i cant even put any "However" in this without feeling im just trying to win an argument Well played!

SweetrollBunny

I'm still waiting for my "Argonian Maid" costume. Please how can I proper RP without it....

Tapio75

SweetrollBunny wrote: »

I'm still waiting for my "Argonian Maid" costume. Please how can I proper RP without it....

One can be lusty maid even while wearing tons of clothes :P

Kuramas9tails

Vyle_Byte wrote: »

Tapio75 wrote: »

And maybe some girls but i think women are more about stuff that makes sense unlike small boys

Maybe some girls? lol I know plenty of chicks... who play this game... who love this ***, myself included and Im no spring chicken either. Its just a costume, hell Mazzatun is pretty skimpy and its actual armor - cant wait to buy it eventually. Not every woman feels the need to cover herself up, also they are just characters - pixels man, they are just pixels! Let them be freeeeee

@Vyle_Byte ME! I got an amazing skin I want to show off! What's the point in earning skins and not being able to see it!

AcadianPaladin

My mage is physically weak so metal armor is out if she hopes to move well. Fortunately, she can conjure enough magical protection to make a dragon wince - so what she is wearing is irrelevant as far as mitigating damage goes. And those same magical protections ward away rain/snow/cold/heat as well - eliminating the need for a hood that bothers her long ears, obscures her vision and plays havoc with her hair.

She is constantly tripping in the field or in combat if she wears long robes - so those are pretty much out as well.

Some of her fellow mages choose to dress skimpily to distract their foes. My poor elf, however, . . . well, she can't exactly fill out the skimpy stuff enough to do much distracting.

So, for her, it basically boils down to comfort and freedom of movement. That generally means pants and a shirt of some sort with light boots.

Short version: Mages don't need no stinking armor.

Wreuntzylla

xaraan wrote: »

Well, to look at it realistically as you try to in your example - having a robe covering your body isn't going to protect you anymore than the skirt. So in your complaint, everyone should literally be wearing full heavy armor in appearance.

I do think the "sexy" gaming player thing is kind of cheesy, but that's me. If another player enjoys it, then whatever - but the "realistic" complaint just doens't fly.

It will, however, protect you from frost bite and third degree sunburns... There are actually very few climates where skimpy clothing would work as general wear.

In Tamriel, of course, magic. What on you is enchanted when half naked?

In any event, ZoS answered these topics requiring deep thinking. Most of it complies with real history. Clothing for social status, religious reasons, symbolic of power. Just keep in mind that the combat answer shows crown store clothing...

https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/25469

Stania

The only problem I have with all this is:
Skimpy, tighter or sexy outfits = intended for females.
Covers a lot more, loose. Recycled from the recycled parts of other costumes = intended for males.

The only "revealing clothes" for males are the pirate outfit which has those McHammer pants and the argonian one, which has a skirt (way longer than it's female new version, no surprise).

Come on, ZoS, some of us wish we don't have to cross-dress our males characters in order for them to wear tighter clothes or show more of their tattoos and anatomy too (the Balmora costume looks good on males with athletic bodytypes, but is still too "feminine"). If you're going to break your lore-friendliness and modesty rules, do it for both sexes equally.

Aebaradath

KochDerDamonen

It's far too late to turn back, this is a short-skirts game

Tapio75 wrote: »

Well, im not the only player so why not, be skimpy if you wish. I just dont understand why would someone go to dangerous situations in an near underwear clothing :P

This though, has nothing to do with Bosmer/Argonian lore, it has to do with fact that women in skimpy clothes sell good to small boys

And maybe some girls but i think women are more about stuff that makes sense unlike small boys

@Tapio75 I've never spoken to someone in skimpy costumes in any game and had it be a 'small boy'. Grown-ass men and women with jobs, the lot of them. Haha

Wreuntzylla

Stania wrote: »

The only problem I have with all this is:
Skimpy, tighter or sexy outfits = intended for females.
Covers a lot more, loose. Recycled from the recycled parts of other costumes = intended for males.

The only "revealing clothes" for males are the pirate outfit which has those McHammer pants and the argonian one, which has a skirt (way longer than it's female new version, no surprise).

Come on, ZoS, some of us wish we don't have to cross-dress our males characters in order for them to wear tighter clothes or show more of their tattoos and anatomy too (the Balmora costume looks good on males with athletic bodytypes, but is still too "feminine"). If you're going to break your lore-friendliness and modesty rules, do it for both sexes equally.

There are some armor motifs that show quite a bit. I think minotaur, but it might be a different one.