Please don't ever show Summerset Isles. I want one region of Tamriel to still be mythically awesome and untainted by Zenimax's uninspired art direction (sorry, devs).

psychotrip wrote: »

SirAxen wrote: »

Kuramas9tails wrote: »

I would be happy with any new area and culture to explore.

Same. I really feel like the selling point for the next chapter is the 'Somewhere never explored in an ES game before' route.

Let's just hope they can do it justice. This is Zenimax's chance to show what they can do in regards to worldbuilding. We know they can do a good job updating places we've seen before, but portraying Summerset will be by far the most challenging (and rewarding in my opinion) job that anyone involved with the series has undertaken since the original Morrowind.

I think we all need to take a step back and remember just how fleshed out Morrowind as a nation is compared to everywhere else in the lore. The sheer scale and diversity, the environmental detail, the depth that went into its political system and each of its unique cultures. Every province in the ES series was, at one point, intended to be just as fleshed out, deep, and strange in its own way. This is their chance to get back to that.

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

Summerset is supposed to have ruins made of coral (which may or may not be due to the Sload) in spots, so I would expect* to see those in at least a few places.


*And by 'expect' I mean, 'complain loudly and bitterly about breaking the lore if we explore the whole thing and never see them.'

Bethesda / Zenimax has a way of making me cynical as well, but I really hope they prove me wrong.

@psychotrip - It is interesting you say this. I believe a lot of people were upset with Oblivion because they felt it didn't live up to the uniqueness of Morrowind. The problem with Oblivion is not that it doesn't have huge mushroom trees and hovering jellyfishes although that could be part of it. Oblivion was pretty good but they were attempting to take all of those text options and boil them into audio dialogue and it did limit what you could do with that game and yet that isn't the problem it faced. I would say Oblivion was perceived to be too bland for the reason there was not enough conflict or at least a fleshed out set of subcultures and factions in the same way Morrowind had. This is still true to this day in ESO. Morrowind still has House Dres, Indoril, Hlaalu, Telvanni, Redoran and the Ashlanders. It still has its Buoyant Armigers and all those other things. The unique cultures as you travel place to place were palpable in the same way that Los Angeles doesn't feel anything like New York or Minneapolis or Miami or Chicago. While there may be common threads weaving through them all you can sense the difference in art, action, preference, etc. Oblivion could have had more of this even while it was representing the Heart of the Empire. I believe they did manage to capture some of those uniquenesses but it just wasn't the same. In this respect Skyrim like Oblivion also lost some of the culture to the conflict. We did get a unique sense of difference between Riften Nords and Solitude Nords but it felt like perhaps Imperialization had really taken root within the Nord people. I'll say this for Skyrim though, you can still get the sense of the different peoples. Windhelm definitely has that grim feeling of fending off the cold north. Whiterun has a brighter outlook. Riften feels 'almost Imperial'. Solitude feels like the most Imperial. Morthal and Falkreath seem to get more in touch with a primordial past and then there's the Companions, Graybeards, the Kyne priestesses and the old Hunter who give you that sense of the more ancient Nordic roots.

I took a long time to mention these past games because we get a taste of the factions within the Khajiit and Bosmer in ESO. We don't quite get a taste of anything outside of the Veiled Heritance and the True Queen. This kind of battle really doesn't tell us much about the unique cultures of the Altmer any more than the Stormcloaks and Imperials told us anything about Nordic culture in Skyrim. I'm hopeful if they're going to peel back the world of the Altmer we start to learn a little bit about some of the interesting cultures and factions. Altmer should not all be the same bland yellow stain on the southwest map.

Though I would love to see Summerset Isles or Elsweyr as the next chapter, I believe the next chapter will be Black Marsh with Murkmire as the new zone. I don't know what the next chapter will be, but I would like to finally get the Aldmeri Dominion area explored for once. Especially with Dragonbones being the first dlc, I see Black Marsh being a nice fit with the theme of EP area. If Murkmire is the next zone I will be disappointed for this will be a whole other year for them to drag out more Ebonheart Pact content. That is not saying Black Marsh won't be a cool addition, but not right now after we just got done with Morrowind. If the Dominion don't get anything here soon I may just take a break from the dlcs and chapter because I am tired of Nords (people can play Skyrim, Horns of the Reach, or Dragonbones if they miss Nord content that bad), Dark Elves (Vvardenfell, Clockwork, Stonefalls, and Deshaan), and Argonians (not much but Shadows of the Hist, however, I would rather explore an Aldmeri Dominion area that hasn't got NOTHING, than more EP content). As a Khajiit who grew up in Summerset, Elsweyr, and Valenwood, this one feels like an abandoned kitten with no purrfect place to call home. Little island Auridon, Khenarthi's Roost, and Eastern Reaper's March isn't enough for a roaming furr ball of Khajiit. Valenwood is good but could use some dlc dungeons for Bosmer along with a Bosmer style mansion.

AndyTGD wrote: »

Please don't ever show Summerset Isles. I want one region of Tamriel to still be mythically awesome and untainted by Zenimax's uninspired art direction (sorry, devs).

Dont we all?

I swear to GOD they better make the clothing gorgeous and elegant and not dress every altmer in the rags held together with clumsy stitching that we saw in Auridon

Been gone for a while. Did not expect this thread to gain traction again. Glad you guys liked the ideas presented in this thread and I really hope this is what a future Summerset DLC looks like.

playerkiller247 wrote: »

I swear to GOD they better make the clothing gorgeous and elegant and not dress every altmer in the rags held together with clumsy stitching that we saw in Auridon

This especially. There is no excuse or valid explanation for why the altmer clothing looks this way.

Also, if we go to the Spiral Skein, then I hope we'll see male Perthans (Spider Daedra) again.

CardboardedBox wrote: »

AndyTGD wrote: »

Please don't ever show Summerset Isles. I want one region of Tamriel to still be mythically awesome and untainted by Zenimax's uninspired art direction (sorry, devs).

Isles of Thras is still a thing....

And Falinesti. And Balfiera. And the place where "Eye of Argonia" was supposed to happen. And the Dreughs' castles of glass and coral. And the Hist Plane...

playerkiller247 wrote: »

I swear to GOD they better make the clothing gorgeous and elegant and not dress every altmer in the rags held together with clumsy stitching that we saw in Auridon

Well, you can see one new Altmer style in the pre-quest for Clockwork City, I believe. I'm not sure if its Altmeri in general or Psijic in particular, though.



I think what Altmer really need though are elaborate and unnecessarily cumbersome headdresses.

Was not a unicorn mount datamined?

I wonder if there will be snowy peaks on Summerset?

I also wonder if the new housing will be of a different architecture style(s)?

We will have to wait and see...

Crazy amount of verbal masturbation for something that hasn't been confirmed. I'd rather most places tham th Summerset Isles, for the next DLC or Chapter- way too colourful and vibrant and more camp than Christmas,

playerkiller247 wrote: »

I swear to GOD they better make the clothing gorgeous and elegant and not dress every altmer in the rags held together with clumsy stitching that we saw in Auridon

I think they wont, prob it will get the same treatmant as dunmers got in Vvardenfell with race specific clothes which we will get in the crown store