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Syiccal
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is solo pvp viable in light armour or am I just signing my own death warrant. Heavy is still the meta by a long way for magplar with everyone I speak to using it.
Any body have success SOLO with light?
yes it hits harder but that won't matter if I'm dead or constantly healing
  • Minno
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    Syiccal wrote: »
    is solo pvp viable in light armour or am I just signing my own death warrant. Heavy is still the meta by a long way for magplar with everyone I speak to using it.
    Any body have success SOLO with light?
    yes it hits harder but that won't matter if I'm dead or constantly healing

    LA gives you more crit chance, mag regen, cost reduction and penetration. It lets your slot dmg enchants and pick apprentice mundas for more dmg while letting you slot 2 defensive/utility sets which arguably gives more mitigation than heavy armor currently does.

    But neither wont solve magplar's lack of mobility and tendency to be stuck on the defensive (vital for solo in open world).

    Play BGs with magplar, the mobilty is less of an issue, and you can find yourself in better situations dealing with 2-3 good players while your team focuses on the other team/objective. Plus no lag!

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    I'm not the best player, but most magplars running light found that you have to pair it with 2 defensive sets. I don't run vampire, but most do. Here's a vid of a BG I was in where I was tanky just enough to offset being stuck casting BoL all the time (though I oddly was casting it anyway to heal the Chaos Ball handler.) I am using Pirate Skele for my main defense, and backbar frost staff for "just in case" moments.
    https://youtu.be/H8PM-hgV5Tw
    Edited by Minno on January 15, 2018 8:51PM
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  • Lexxypwns
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    Heavy is not the magplar meta. No magika class that seeks to get kills solo should be in heavy. Light armor is not only viable, it packs so much more damage and sustain than heavy that it’s crazy to run heavy if you need to be solely responsible for securing kills.

    You’d need 2 5pc damage sets and an offensive undaunted to get as much damage as 1 damage set+light armor passives gives you. This then gives you a 5pc and your undaunted set to recover what you lose from heavy and fill other gaps in your build OR pack in more damage. With back bar mitigation sets like trans and riposte the light armor meta is in full effect. Something like surge+trans+zaan with Masters destro will be vicious next patch. This patch you could easily run skoria in place of zaan for a more bursty approach that doesn’t synergize quite as well with magplar or you could go BS, troll, or malu.

    Surge helps solve the issue @Minno speaks on about getting stuck on your defense since it puts out pressure while you’re on the off bar. Next patch zaan will synergize very nicely with this and the weakness will start to turn to a strength on builds using both sets since turtling until you line a zaan+surge proc up will be viable
    Edited by Lexxypwns on January 15, 2018 8:58PM
  • akray21
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    I haven't tested myself, but I've heard of people running light armor with Wizard Reposte AND Transmutation. Not sure where the damage would come from though.
  • Brutusmax1mus
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    Light or bust dude. You'll get used to it. Perfect practice makes perfect.
  • AsheronRealaidain
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    Try wearing 5pc Fortified Brass in light or Wizard's Riposte. I'm running Fortified Brass with Blood Spawn and it's surprisingly tanky, no damage shield required. Pair those with an offensive set and you can be pretty viable solo.
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  • jaws343
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    I run my Magplar with

    5 Mechanical Acuity - Light
    5 Spinners (Dual Wield)
    2 Skoria

    The damage output is crazy, you can melt a player during the Acuity proc. I find using Dampen Magicka is more than enough defense. Especially paired with BOL and the healing from jabs.
  • TheDoomsdayMonster
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    Syiccal wrote: »
    is solo pvp viable in light armour or am I just signing my own death warrant. Heavy is still the meta by a long way for magplar with everyone I speak to using it.
    Any body have success SOLO with light?
    yes it hits harder but that won't matter if I'm dead or constantly healing

    Heavy is the Meta for a Magplar?

    No...Light gives you ALOT of bang for your buck opposed to 5 Heavy; the Cost Reduction and Magicka Regen in particular are golden.


    I am a Magplar, btw, that wears 5 Light and you can absolutely have success in Light Armor solo in PvP...

    Now there are some limitations to this...

    You cant rush headstrong into all situations like John Rambo; you gotta be a bit more selective with the battles you pick (Vampirism and its Dark Stalker passive combined with Elusive Mist as a must for a solo Magplar IMHO); playing like a hybrid Nightblade is very strong for my character in this regard...

    And as @Minno correctly points out, 1 DPS set combined with 2 Defensive/Utility sets seems the best route to go if you want to wear 5 Light...


    Now there is a bit of a learning curve involved with wearing 5 Light and you are going to take a few beating figuring out your limitations, but once you figure it out and master it, you'll see that 5 Light has a higher performance ceiling for a Magplar than 5 Heavy does...

    Good luck!
    Edited by TheDoomsdayMonster on January 15, 2018 10:17PM
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  • KingExecration
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    Syiccal wrote: »
    is solo pvp viable in light armour or am I just signing my own death warrant. Heavy is still the meta by a long way for magplar with everyone I speak to using it.
    Any body have success SOLO with light?
    yes it hits harder but that won't matter if I'm dead or constantly healing

    Heavy is the Meta for a Magplar?

    No...Light gives you ALOT of bang for your buck opposed to 5 Heavy; the Cost Reduction and Magicka Regen in particular are golden.


    I am a Magplar, btw, that wears 5 Light and you can absolutely have success in Light Armor solo in PvP...

    Now there are some limitations to this...

    You cant rush headstrong into all situations like John Rambo; you gotta be a bit more selective with the battles you pick (Vampirism and its Dark Stalker passive combined with Elusive Mist as a must for a solo Magplar IMHO); playing like a hybrid Nightblade is very strong for my character in this regard...

    And as @Minno correctly points out, 1 DPS set combined with 2 Defensive/Utility sets seems the best route to go if you want to wear 5 Light...


    Now there is a bit of a learning curve involved with wearing 5 Light and you are going to take a few beating figuring out your limitations, but once you figure it out and master it, you'll see that 5 Light has a higher performance ceiling for a Magplar than 5 Heavy does...

    Good luck!

    I do completely agree light is better for magplar. But when I threw on my new heavy setup I noticed my capability to 1vx was more possible or less nerve wracking to finish players without catching a large amount of burst. I love my light Templar builds but truly feel heavy is still a better choice if you're gonna be beat on by alot of players. I could be really biased because I play my magplar like I used to play mag dk but it's just my insight. But while in light if you can get a nice meteor off while jabbing that time to kill will be really short, but dawnbreak of smiting in heavy with the lover mundus is pretty nice too. It's all preference I guess.
  • techprince
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  • Akinos
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    akray21 wrote: »
    I haven't tested myself, but I've heard of people running light armor with Wizard Reposte AND Transmutation. Not sure where the damage would come from though.

    The damage would come from the light armor + 3 regen stats you get from those two sets. meaning you could prob get away with 2 or 3 spell damage glpyhs and a damage mundus, and then theres still your monster set too.

    I run a fort brass+wizards light armor build on my templar sometimes and still have pretty high damage, it really depends on how you do it.


    You don't need to have multiple dps sets in order to have dps.
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    jaws343 wrote: »
    I run my Magplar with

    5 Mechanical Acuity - Light
    5 Spinners (Dual Wield)
    2 Skoria

    The damage output is crazy, you can melt a player during the Acuity proc. I find using Dampen Magicka is more than enough defense. Especially paired with BOL and the healing from jabs.

    Mech Acuity is so good on magplar. I like it so much I just made my light set gold about 3 days ago. xD
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  • Ariades_swe
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    On EU la templar the meta. Way better sets and passives.
  • Trashs1
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    i do 5 surge body
    5 trans backbar
    2 willpower swords
    2 pirate skeleton and its tanky as hell
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  • Ashamray
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    Can someone explain me Mechanical Acuity usefulness over Julianos? With little investments in crit you easily get 50% crit chance with Julianos constantly while having 300 more spell damage. Do I miss something?
    Edited by Ashamray on January 16, 2018 8:39AM
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  • Methariorn
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    akray21 wrote: »
    I haven't tested myself, but I've heard of people running light armor with Wizard Reposte AND Transmutation. Not sure where the damage would come from though.

    With riposte + trans you can run spell power glyph + apprendice or lover so you pack a nice dps output and still have lots of mitigation and decent sustain.
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  • jaws343
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    Ashamray wrote: »
    Can someone explain me Mechanical Acuity usefulness over Julianos? With little investments in crit you easily get 50% crit chance with Julianos constantly while having 300 more spell damage. Do I miss something?

    Julianos is great for sustained damage. But Mechanical Acuity provides a guaranteed 5 seconds of crit when it procs. And the 15% chance while using the DOTs and channeled abilities of a magplar gives a very high uptime of the set off cooldown. You can hold your burst for the proc and hit someone for 5 straight seconds of guaranteed crit damage. I like to load up DOTs on a target and then when Acuity procs I hit them with a stun and then an ultimate or Jabs. There is something extremely satisfying about watching a soul assault hit for its full duration while critting (effectively more than doubling its tooltip damage (you can hit PVE creatures for 135K+ soul assaults everytime). Or hitting someone with 100% critting jabs and then following it up with a nearly fully critting Radiant Opression. I like to run this build with the Shadow mundus and stack CP into elfborn to get even more crit damage. You can also make a bomber using this set with the destro ult. Pop destro and gap close into the group and when this procs (it will very quickly) every tic of your destro ult for 5 seconds of its duration will hit every enemy for crit damage.


    For me at least, in Cyrodil, the max stam/mag 4 piece is extremely useful as well.

    So yeah, Julianos provides the potential of a 50% crit change over the entire course of a fight. But Acuity provides insane windows of burst.
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    Love that Mechanical Acuity build... Until you run into a shield stacking sorc
  • Datthaw
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    Minno wrote: »
    Syiccal wrote: »
    is solo pvp viable in light armour or am I just signing my own death warrant. Heavy is still the meta by a long way for magplar with everyone I speak to using it.
    Any body have success SOLO with light?
    yes it hits harder but that won't matter if I'm dead or constantly healing

    LA gives you more crit chance, mag regen, cost reduction and penetration. It lets your slot dmg enchants and pick apprentice mundas for more dmg while letting you slot 2 defensive/utility sets which arguably gives more mitigation than heavy armor currently does.

    But neither wont solve magplar's lack of mobility and tendency to be stuck on the defensive (vital for solo in open world).

    Play BGs with magplar, the mobilty is less of an issue, and you can find yourself in better situations dealing with 2-3 good players while your team focuses on the other team/objective. Plus no lag!

    edit:
    I'm not the best player, but most magplars running light found that you have to pair it with 2 defensive sets. I don't run vampire, but most do. Here's a vid of a BG I was in where I was tanky just enough to offset being stuck casting BoL all the time (though I oddly was casting it anyway to heal the Chaos Ball handler.) I am using Pirate Skele for my main defense, and backbar frost staff for "just in case" moments.
    https://youtu.be/H8PM-hgV5Tw

    How in the world do you play in that 1/2 zoomed camera? Would drive me crazy
  • Trashs1
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    jaws343 wrote: »
    Ashamray wrote: »
    Can someone explain me Mechanical Acuity usefulness over Julianos? With little investments in crit you easily get 50% crit chance with Julianos constantly while having 300 more spell damage. Do I miss something?

    Julianos is great for sustained damage. But Mechanical Acuity provides a guaranteed 5 seconds of crit when it procs. And the 15% chance while using the DOTs and channeled abilities of a magplar gives a very high uptime of the set off cooldown. You can hold your burst for the proc and hit someone for 5 straight seconds of guaranteed crit damage. I like to load up DOTs on a target and then when Acuity procs I hit them with a stun and then an ultimate or Jabs. There is something extremely satisfying about watching a soul assault hit for its full duration while critting (effectively more than doubling its tooltip damage (you can hit PVE creatures for 135K+ soul assaults everytime). Or hitting someone with 100% critting jabs and then following it up with a nearly fully critting Radiant Opression. I like to run this build with the Shadow mundus and stack CP into elfborn to get even more crit damage. You can also make a bomber using this set with the destro ult. Pop destro and gap close into the group and when this procs (it will very quickly) every tic of your destro ult for 5 seconds of its duration will hit every enemy for crit damage.


    For me at least, in Cyrodil, the max stam/mag 4 piece is extremely useful as well.

    So yeah, Julianos provides the potential of a 50% crit change over the entire course of a fight. But Acuity provides insane windows of burst.

    i read this now the second time... once on a stamplar build and one time here...i might need to build one set for myself and test it
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  • Minno
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    Datthaw wrote: »
    Minno wrote: »
    Syiccal wrote: »
    is solo pvp viable in light armour or am I just signing my own death warrant. Heavy is still the meta by a long way for magplar with everyone I speak to using it.
    Any body have success SOLO with light?
    yes it hits harder but that won't matter if I'm dead or constantly healing

    LA gives you more crit chance, mag regen, cost reduction and penetration. It lets your slot dmg enchants and pick apprentice mundas for more dmg while letting you slot 2 defensive/utility sets which arguably gives more mitigation than heavy armor currently does.

    But neither wont solve magplar's lack of mobility and tendency to be stuck on the defensive (vital for solo in open world).

    Play BGs with magplar, the mobilty is less of an issue, and you can find yourself in better situations dealing with 2-3 good players while your team focuses on the other team/objective. Plus no lag!

    edit:
    I'm not the best player, but most magplars running light found that you have to pair it with 2 defensive sets. I don't run vampire, but most do. Here's a vid of a BG I was in where I was tanky just enough to offset being stuck casting BoL all the time (though I oddly was casting it anyway to heal the Chaos Ball handler.) I am using Pirate Skele for my main defense, and backbar frost staff for "just in case" moments.
    https://youtu.be/H8PM-hgV5Tw

    How in the world do you play in that 1/2 zoomed camera? Would drive me crazy

    It drives me nuts when I have it zoomed out and trees/objects block my view in the middle of a fight. :(
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