Generally it is okay, but couple things i'd like to see go. I don't like the animation cancelling being so crucial part of dealing tons of damage.

Other thing i don't like is the targeting system. If you have clear line of sight, arrows will follow the target like a heat seeking missile. It is stupid.

Other than that, combat system is fine

Combat system is well desing and feels very dynamic.

Although DB animation changes screwed up that pleasant animation canceling feeling.

Are you at all familiar with the concept of nitpicking?
You seem to have mastered it...

Controls still feel a bit clunky for me, especially weapon swapping; weaving is not as responsive anymore as it was around Update 4; still feel that it's unnecessarily limited that we only have access to 10 active skills and 2 ultimates at a time in combat (I'm pretty sure this design was chosen because of gamepad limitations); the default quickslot wheel is still awkward to use (a PC keyboard has so many keys, no reason to have only one consumable slot This was clearly designed with gamepad controls in mind, same as Diablo 3's one-button potion slot; luckily, there are addons on ESO PC to work around this limitation).

What are ESO's competitor's though? I've played BDO, that combat system has its fair share of problems, too. I haven't played Blade and Soul so I can't compare it to that.

I image the net code for a rather dynamic combat system like ESO's must be incredibly difficult to do in a way that the player doesn't feel the latency and that controls feel super-responsive at the same time. So, overall, I think ESO's combat system is certainly ok if not good.

The heavy attack meta* that came with Morrowind was a necessary change to make such a thing as balancing battle grounds PvP even remotely possible without changing anything else.
Though the definitve solution, of course, would be to balance PvE and PvP separately, make skills work slightly different when used against players (every single MMOG I've ever played had this: Ragnarok Online, Lineage 2, WoW, BDO, etc.) and make the Champion system a horizontal progress system (you can get more specialized but with every advantage comes a disadvantage or at least another advantage that you missed).

* I mention this because I've seen many people post that they find combat *feels* worse since this update.

Since the games success has depended on player feedback (especially in regard to combat) I think it's pretty silly to not bring up ways in which it could be improved. I don't think it's a mess anymore like it was at launch, I think it functions well and it's fun.

Things can always be improved on though, let's not pretend this is groundbreaking stuff. I think some of the criticisms here are worth consideration.

No auto attack or too many cool downs. I think it's pretty decent. I would like to have at least 1 more slot on my skill bar though.

The combat is fine if you consider that is a MMORPG. You can not compare eso with for Honor or a single player game, because in a MMORPG you have a server that have to process the information that gets from different places around the the world.

The only thing i don't like from ESO is the animation canceling. If it were me i would really try to fix that. This game has enough burst combos to also make possible to execute them in such a short period of time abusing of the animation canceling.

Best I've played in an MMO. There's better in MOBA's but there is also worse.

It's too "cheesy"...

If I compare to BDO it is worse. It doesn't feel as powerful. I don't get the impression that attacks connect with my target. But the best thing about BDO combat is how skills are constructed. It's not just a simple number press (although you can set it up for some skills), but it's key combinations. And building up some combos is not just LMB, 1,2, LMB, 3,4,5 but rather:

[SHIFT]+[SPACEBAR] followed by
[F] then
[SHIFT] + [F] followed by
[SHIFT] + (S) followed by
(S)+[F] followed by
[RMB] then
(S)+[E] and
[SHIFT]+[LPM+PPM] finishing with
[LMB].

But I guess BDO has been designed with grinding XP via combat in mind, whereas ESO is more about Story and lore.

inf.toniceb17_ESO wrote: »

OK so this is from a PvE perspective: If there is anything in ESO that i hate more than having to remake my builds every few months cuz of all the balance changes it is combat. It's boring, clunky, unresponsive and built around an exploit the couldn't fix. It feels like i'm playing and old mortal kombat game where i have to execute some fatality rotation over and over till the enemy is dead and it's boring. GCD while may be nescesarry forces me to press each button like five times before ability fires off wich makes it feel unresponsive and contrary to pupular belief it doesn't feel fast paced at all. As for weaving it's not actually a bad mechanic per se but considering all of the above and animation problems that pop up from time to time and aren't fixed for months (i'm looking at you strife). it turns eso combat into a nightmare for me. Now yes its a problem of nerly every MMO out there, yes, but most of them doesn't have some semi-hidden mechanics that aren't explained anywhere in game at all and don't really work that well sometimes.

Yup, you only know how frustrating the combat can become when you do raids like vHOF or vMOL, on consoles!

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

I do have to say without lag its fine.
But when lag is involved it becomes absolutely horrible.

But yes, the animation update kind of killed something.

we'll talk about the lag in another day
But damn right, the lag just add things up

pkuronen wrote: »

I hear animation canceling brings 2k more dps. Dont sound like a game changer to me.

actually it brings about 5k but even 1k is a game changer since if people are finishing crap cause of that 1k bonus x3 (healer counts to) then they amp up more content to compensate so now this becomes a slope to make it balanced around animation cancelling, that bonus damage will never be achieved by non-cancelling due to the exploits nature so now the game just got balanced around an exploit and the abilities+sets will also be balanced with that exploit in mind, look at proc sets, they were nerfed more than needed BECAUSE OF STAM BLADES ANIMATION CANCELLING, and that made the sets get a flat nerf for EVERYONE not just the stam blades.