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ESO combat quality is FAR WORSE from its competitors?

  • jedtb16_ESO
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    i don't know what 'far worse from its competitors' means.... it certainly makes no sense in english, maybe it's a translation problem.
  • Azyle1
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    Nope, not at all.
    I think ESO's combat is far better than other MMO's. The best? No. BDO is good, but in general, that game is garbage compared to most other MMO's unless you just love PVP.

    ESO has a lot of issues but it does a lot of things right.

    Off the bat, it;s combat is fun and it's gear system in incredibly awesome compared to games like FFXIV, WoW.
  • dodgehopper_ESO
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    I'd love to see them add weapon combinations to the game. Just look at how DCUO does that, and copy/paste. End of story - blam, Total awesomesauce in this game. That's my opinion anyway. I've always suggested it as well. It would also make people really deeply consider clipping animations.
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  • magictucktuck
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    Major problem I see with eso competitors is when you hit a button you lose control. Your toon stops to play a animation and jumps or does stupid ***. I want to fight real-time like eso it’s fast paced and you react to things split second. Not watch boobs giggle for 5 seconds when I try to do a basic move. It’s the least “clunky” combat from a mmo that I’ve ever played
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  • GeorgeBlack
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    Nothing will ever beat Tera Online combat
  • PlagueSD
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    Nope, not at all.
    andreasv wrote: »
    It's not just a simple number press (although you can set it up for some skills), but it's key combinations. And building up some combos is not just LMB, 1,2, LMB, 3,4,5 but rather:

    [SHIFT]+[SPACEBAR] followed by
    [F] then
    [SHIFT] + [F] followed by
    [SHIFT] + (S) followed by
    (S)+[F] followed by
    [RMB] then
    (S)+[E] and
    [SHIFT]+[LPM+PPM] finishing with
    [LMB].

    Oh, I can make that a simple number press. Just involves using macros. I could NEVER play a game with that type of key combination requirement. ESO combat system is fine. It's nice and dynamic. I don't just sit there tab targeting and mashing buttons like WoW, EQ, Rift, etc.
  • ZeroXFF
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    Nope, not at all.
    Sure, there can be some improvements, but the ESO combat system is overall waaaaaaaay ahead of the competition.
  • Vahrokh
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    Not far worse, but yeah, worse.
    I love what does as written on the tin. The other MMOs don't pretend to sell anything different than what they are.
    ESO advertises fast paced combat but only partially achieves it.

    ESO combat has very nice features compared to others, however:
    • It really shows that animation cancelling has been an afterthought. ESO came with many, juicy animations. This makes cancelling them feel very ankward and your character seems "hiccuping". Sure, to some this is a minor annoyance. To me and others it's immersion breaking. If you are swinging an ultra-heavy 2h weapon you should not be able to instantly halt its inertia and do something else.
    • Weird "third hand" allows you to light attack but also to perform an hotkeyed skill at the same time.
    • Years to even acknowledge a critical bug exists, much more to fix it. I'm getting the ultra-known "ligthning heavy attack bug", where a the weapon (usually a staff) gets "stuck" at the end of the attack and you cannot do anything else. This disrupts timing, rotation and whatever, until the game graciously decides to unstick it. Or you do all sorts of aerobatics (rolling, casting random light attacks around etc.).
    • Abysmally ugly "dial" consummables activation system. No, I don't care if it's been featured (or not) elsewhere or in past games. It's TERRIBLE.
    • Can use only few abilities, yet you have to bar swap like a monkey for your full lifetime. Of course, the bar swap can get lagged, blocked, bugged and so on and on.
    • Ping sensitive abilities. If you play with 20ms latency your animation cancelling and bar swap is well different than someone with 300+ latency. It's stupid to lose because you are Australian, not because you are bad. Other MMOs are affected as well, but they implement cooldowns to reduce the impact.
    • ESO is the only MMO (last time I've seen something similar, it was early 2000s) where loading screens are integral part of PvP gameplay. You face opponents and loading screens at the same time. ZOS nerfs classes all the time, but does not nerf loading screens as much ;).
    • You can condone other MMOs, when two classes have 2-3 similar skills out of the 40 you use. In ESO, everybody is a copy and paste of a META build on the META race, with a number of skills common to all classes. The little difference (sometimes you may login a wrong class and not even notice that, for a while!) get constantly reduced, nerfed and streamlined. Classes diversity has been neutered and class signature skills often were nerfed so much it's pointless to slot them. Just use Destruction school abilities... like 1 million other people around you.
    • In a game where you only have an handful of available skills, you actually have to "double bar" several of them. Welcome to 4 hotkey classes! If this is not asinine game play, what else is?
    Edited by Vahrokh on March 2, 2018 2:01AM
  • mikejezz
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    Totally.
    I like the game, but the combat is what kills the game for me. It is limited to only a few spells I keep spamming over and over again.
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