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Can you guys nerf heavy armor already especially seventh legion
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Jake1576✭✭✭✭✭Everyone seems to be running heavy armor specially seventh legion now you whent and nerfed clever alchemist the set i use to use and made it basically worthless let's do the same to seventh legion and all heavy armor sets it is extremely annoying going against someone who is tanky and has good damage do to seventh legion why can't medium armor do this also medium armor sucks ass at the moment
the argument is no argument.
guess what is coming somewhat later this year when jewelry-crafting comes home at last...............
this forum will break down,
or
maybe not, while then it is all a matter of L2P
and we all are OP then
I am waiting so much for this to happen!
Jewelry crafting does sound awesome. That would really be cool if it does happen I would also like to see spell crafting to that would be cool 0 -
Jake1576✭✭✭✭✭.
no, we are not taking away anything anymore
and no we are not going to ask for any NERF anymore
cause it sucks, there are answers,
there is counterplay possible
the community finds ways, and we are able to use thse ways
because the "balancing" things that ZOS does, are like:
the soup is salty, lets put some more water to it,....O...
the soup is lean, let´s put some salt to it.....O....
the soup is salty............
what you end up with? with a bucket of water, but no soup!
Nerf nerf nerf soup soup soup lol Edited by Jake1576 on January 8, 2018 2:23PM0 -
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You put on jewelry and weapons.TrinityBreaker wrote: »Ragnarock41 wrote: »Seventh or not , heavy or not, likes of you will always end up getting destroyed.
Nerf seventh? Ravager exists.
Nerf Ravager? fury exists
nerf fury? alchemist exists
Nerf alch? senche exists
we could go on like this till everbody is running hundings but then you would still complain because people can wear it heavy.
I told this so many times now. Heavy is fine. L2P.
I pretty sure that senche' bite is a medium armor drop set and cannot come in heavy?
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zParallaxz✭✭✭✭✭WhoThenNow7 wrote: »Medium armor needs a buff badly. I think if medium armor put out substantially more damage even with seventh staying the same it would be fair.
Medium gives more damage than heavy lol.1 -
zParallaxz✭✭✭✭✭The people I see who complain about heavy are those who can’t master medium or light. Both armors can respectively kill each other but this game follows the ideological light armour broils heavy, heavy tanks and deals damage to rogues(medium armour), medium armour cuts right through light armour.Edited by zParallaxz on January 8, 2018 2:29PM3
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Jake1576✭✭✭✭✭zParallaxz wrote: »The people I see who complain about heavy are those who can’t master medium.
Because medium has nothing to master only defense medium has is Dodge other then that it sucks and needs changes made to it in my opinion something to give medium armor wearers a fighting chanceEdited by Jake1576 on January 8, 2018 2:31PM2 -
zParallaxz✭✭✭✭✭
You do have a chance, it’s called shuffle with a mixture of a classes natural mitigation ability. My point stands not a lot of people know how to master medium. I.e medium stamblade uses cloak, medium stamplar uses purge and repentance, medium stamdk uses igneous shield and wings, medium warden uses shimmering shield and movement speed, medium stam sorc uses streak and dark deal.zParallaxz wrote: »The people I see who complain about heavy are those who can’t master medium.
Because medium has nothing to master only defense medium has is Dodge other then that it sucks and needs changes made to it in my opinion something to give medium armor wearers a fighting chance against heavy
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A_G_G_R_O✭✭✭✭The only answer to heavy armor is the roundhouse build. Sir DubzugPvP runs medium armor and will be the beacon in the darkness against the heavy armor carries0
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skywarnmc27✭✭✭ZOS needs to make gear for PVP, and for PVE...Or make it that said changes switch over in PVP. Stop being lazy and separate pve from pvp.2 -
Jake1576✭✭✭✭✭zParallaxz wrote: »
You do have a chance, it’s called shuffle with a mixture of a classes natural mitigation ability. My point stands not a lot of people know how to master medium. I.e medium stamblade uses cloak, medium stamplar uses purge and repentance, medium stamdk uses igneous shield and wings, medium warden uses shimmering shield and movement speed, medium stam sorc uses streak and dark deal.zParallaxz wrote: »The people I see who complain about heavy are those who can’t master medium.
Because medium has nothing to master only defense medium has is Dodge other then that it sucks and needs changes made to it in my opinion something to give medium armor wearers a fighting chance against heavy
I see but all light armor wearers have to do is use a shield that's provided to them under the light armor skill line and heavy armor wearers have good damage mitigation medium armor takes a lot more effort if you want to be any good with it basically for pro's medium armor should have a better defense then just dodging in my opinion I thought it was heavy armor that was the problem but it's really not it's medium armor that's the issue it needs to be brought in line with heavy and lightEdited by Jake1576 on January 8, 2018 2:43PM1 -
CyborgPlatypus✭✭✭There's always a top set. That's just how it is. In the summer just gone it was proc stamsorcs. Now it's whatever that set is. It'll change again.0
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✭Anyone else notice that op said he was a ganker and now he can’t proc alch in stealth due to the change??
That’s the reason they nerfed alch the way they did. No one should be able to get a chunk of damage for sitting in stealth without either doing or taking damage previously.
Ganking is an aids playstyle and here you are complaining about a Stam dude wearin 7th legion when he is most likely outnumbered.
Is the healing over the top? Sure
That could see a tweak. Global cd.0 -
Jake1576✭✭✭✭✭Things I think need looked at medium armor needs improvements and seveth legion needs looked at not the heavy armor skill line just seventh legion I am still convinced this set is still op and needs some adjustments everyone in pvp seems to be using it if there are lots of ppl using it you know it has to be op lol
Edited by Jake1576 on January 8, 2018 3:04PM0 -
A_G_G_R_O✭✭✭✭Anyone else notice that op said he was a ganker and now he can’t proc alch in stealth due to the change??
That’s the reason they nerfed alch the way they did. No one should be able to get a chunk of damage for sitting in stealth without either doing or taking damage previously.
Ganking is an aids playstyle and here you are complaining about a Stam dude wearin 7th legion when he is most likely outnumbered.
Is the healing over the top? Sure
That could see a tweak. Global cd.
But I Can’t 100 to 0 people with no counter play.... needs buffs0 -
Spacemonkey✭✭✭✭✭Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »
This is scissors asking to nerf rock but saying paper is ok.Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »
This is scissors asking to nerf rock but saying paper is ok.Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »
This is scissors asking to nerf rock but saying paper is ok.Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »
This is scissors asking to nerf rock but saying paper is ok.
THISEdited by Spacemonkey on January 8, 2018 3:08PM0 -
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✭"I appear at my lord's behest, or perhaps I was always here, and you merely lacked the ability to see me."
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Joy_Division✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Hope all you people who bought gold 7th Legion made your money scamming those people who copy Kodi's build.
Hope all you people who dropped 60-80K buying gold rings don't complain when ZoS nerfs a set that is an anomaly: offering a powerful proc with no internal cool-down.
Make Rush of Agony "Monsters only." People should not be consecutively crowd controlled in a PvP setting. Period.2 -
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✭Everyone seems to be running heavy armor specially seventh legion now you whent and nerfed clever alchemist the set i use to use and made it basically worthless let's do the same to seventh legion and all heavy armor sets it is extremely annoying going against someone who is tanky and has good damage do to seventh legion why can't medium armor do this also medium armor sucks ass at the moment
Honestly, heavy armor is not that common anymore. It did get a big nerf. Oh, and most of the players you encounter that are tanky as heck and also hit like a truck are running cheat engine. This is the issue ZOS has not addressing cheat engine. Players who don't know any better think that what they are seeing that seems over powered to them is a player running a skill or load out that is OP when usually it is not that skill or loadout that is OP but rather the fact that the player they encountered is simply cheating. I can help you with some other things you may be thinking in addition to the heavy armor one.
1) The two handed ulti does not really hit you for 22k even though you have been hit buy it for 22k. That is just a dude running cheat engine.
2) Soul assault does not kill a tanky 5 star general in 1 second (saw this). That is just cheat engine.
3) Shuffle is not really OP and dosen't give you 80% dodge chance +100% speed. Those are just guys running cheat engine.
4) Tanky builds taking damage from 5 players cannot turn around and burst you down provided you are not a total potato noob. Heavy armor (which I do not run on a PVP DPS BTW) is not OP. They are cheating.
If you encounter something you think is ridiculous and OP, try it out first yourself instead for complaining. You probably just encountered cheat engine and not an OP skill.I am currently worried for the future of ESO. Population seems like it is in free fall and the cancellation of the North America in-person gathering feels very much like pulling the plug. Kudos on fixing the in-game economy though. Clearly whatever gold shenanigans were happening the last couple years are fixed.5 -
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✭Joy_Division wrote: »Hope all you people who bought gold 7th Legion made your money scamming those people who copy Kodi's build.
Hope all you people who dropped 60-80K buying gold rings don't complain when ZoS nerfs a set that is an anomaly: offering a powerful proc with no internal cool-down.
Gold 7th legion was on sale ?
Oh, man
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✭✭✭✭✭common denominator is all nerf threads: proc sets.
you leave the game up to RNG - its impossible to remotely balance. multiple random occurrences are cause for a nightmare in skill predictability which in turn makes "fair play" and balance impossible.
Im surprised Troll King hasnt been mentioned yet. in any case, Ragnarock said it best, something else will always be gravitated to. There are too many sets in the game and devs keep adding more because its become a status quo.RickterESO
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✭✭common denominator is all nerf threads: proc sets.
you leave the game up to RNG - its impossible to remotely balance. multiple random occurrences are cause for a nightmare in skill predictability which in turn makes "fair play" and balance impossible.
Im surprised Troll King hasnt been mentioned yet. in any case, Ragnarock said it best, something else will always be gravitated to. There are too many sets in the game and devs keep adding more because its become a status quo.
I fully expect Troll King to receive another nerf, but this time one that makes the set useless* for medium armor. Too many people stack it with heavy armor for builds that don't do enough damage, but are really annoying to kill (or impossible in some cases). I'd prefer to see them remove or lower the HP regen bonus on heavy armor, and give it something else instead.
But more likely TK will just become useless.Edited by OdinForge on January 8, 2018 4:02PMThe Age of Wrobel.1 -
Abysswarrior45✭✭✭✭Jake why is it that every thread you start is a nerf thread based purely off emotions. Didn't you admit to being a zergling when you're not ganking? I mean thats fine and all, but a playstyle like that shouldn't be crying for nerfs.0
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Jake1576✭✭✭✭✭Abysswarrior45 wrote: »Jake why is it that every thread you start is a nerf thread based purely off emotions. Didn't you admit to being a zergling when you're not ganking? I mean thats fine and all, but a playstyle like that shouldn't be crying for nerfs.
I don't see you're point here0 -
Abysswarrior45✭✭✭✭Abysswarrior45 wrote: »Jake why is it that every thread you start is a nerf thread based purely off emotions. Didn't you admit to being a zergling when you're not ganking? I mean thats fine and all, but a playstyle like that shouldn't be crying for nerfs.
I don't see you're point here
It seems like a rage post rather than one made in the name of balance. Also *your2 -
TheMystid✭✭✭I got this:
If wearing 5 or more Heavy Armor pieces: your weapon and spell damage affects healing abilities but not damaging abilities.
And of course:
If wearing 5 or more Medium Armor pieces: your weapon damage affects damaging abilities but not healing abilities.
and of course:
If wearing 5 or more Light Armor pieces... nothing changes.
Edited by TheMystid on January 8, 2018 7:12PMPC EU
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Jake1576✭✭✭✭✭
I've just been watching people's streams on twitch and everyone had something in common I was watching they was all running stamina wardens and using seventh legion so that got me thinking something with it has to be broken or it's just ridiculously op and should be looked at if zos thinks it's fine then okay but in my opinion it at least needs to be looked at then I happened to encounter one of these streamers I was watching in pvp and I couldn't budge their health or anything now I'm not the best player but I've played long enough to know that I can usually leave a mark in someone's health when I hit them but this player I couldn't and as soon as they noticed me they came over and spammed wrecking blow and killed me like I was nothing I wear all medium armor and all it took was one wrecking blow and a reverse slice and I was dead so yes this thread is a little of a rage post but so are a lot of other people's on hereAbysswarrior45 wrote: »Abysswarrior45 wrote: »Jake why is it that every thread you start is a nerf thread based purely off emotions. Didn't you admit to being a zergling when you're not ganking? I mean thats fine and all, but a playstyle like that shouldn't be crying for nerfs.
I don't see you're point here
It seems like a rage post rather than one made in the name of balance. Also *yourEdited by Jake1576 on January 8, 2018 7:22PM2
