The Outfit System (Transmog) - Will we FINALLY be able to get rid of those god awful red weapons?

alceleniel · January 2018

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Weapons are included in the Outfit System, so you'll be able to not only change how your weapon looks, but also... dye it! Cool, right?

That is indeed very cooool. So my blue-golden sorcerer can now get the right weapon too

Vanthras79 · January 2018

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Weapons are included in the Outfit System, so you'll be able to not only change how your weapon looks, but also... dye it! Cool, right?

This put a big smile on my face

opaj · January 2018

Hm.

Have they confirmed that we'll be able to control what material level the outfit pieces will use? (For instance, I like the low-level look of Altmer gear, and would like to use those in a costume instead of the higher-level versions.)

What if I want to pair my de-red-ified weapons with a costume from the crown store? Will that be possible with outfits? (So, say, I dye a weapon gray and use it with the Regalia of the Scarlet Judge.)

Can I dye each individual piece of the outfit separately, or does it become "unified" like the other costumes in the game? Not all gear pieces seem to use the same color channels, or I may want to wear hot pink pants with a monochromatic jerkin.

Not really expecting an answer to these here... but will be testing this system thoroughly when it's out on PTS.

dotme · January 2018

I'm probably just dense, but I don't understand a lot of the restrictions on this kind of stuff. My PvP character has earned over 400 transmutation crystals (combination of opened and un-cracked geodes) and I can't use them on my fully leveled crafter.

What is up with that? I have a dedicated character that makes all my weapons, armor etc. Spent over a year leveling up and almost have full 9 traits on everything. But those 50-crystal end-of-campaign rewards on my PvP character just sit there and I can't use them? I'm finding a lot of what at first seems like good news and nice changes to the game simply don't apply to me.

olsborg · January 2018

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Weapons are included in the Outfit System, so you'll be able to not only change how your weapon looks, but also... dye it! Cool, right?

That is amazeballs

dimensional · January 2018

Gravord wrote: »

"With the Outfit System, you can change the appearance of your equipment to reflect any of your known crafting styles"

YOUR known styles. Any reason to spit in crafter faces once again?

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Argeed. This is extremely disappointing. They shafted crafters with the transmute system and I was hoping that at least this new outfit system would be a great addition to the crafting economy. Not only will crafters not be able to benefit from this extremely *obvious* potential boost to their overall usefulness, but the hundreds of thousands of other players who don't craft will simply not be able to partake in this system.

Honestly, I think ZOS should reconsider this system and allow for crafters to participate and create items that can be traded to any players that will let them use this outfit system.

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom any chance you could pass these thoughts along?

SGT_Wolfe101st · January 2018

emilyhyoyeon wrote: »

SGT_Wolfe101st wrote: »

emilyhyoyeon wrote: »

Are the "unique outfits" a separate feature from being able to change the styles of a couple of pieces of armor?
for example: I don't really want to make an outfit out of armor, but I do want to change my Plague Doctor set to aldmeri style and still cover the armor with a costume

Not being short with you, but why would you do that? I don't understand.

So I can take the costume off and wear the armor when I want to wear the armor. I didn't mean to say that I want to change my armor style and cover it with a costume forever. I want to know if the only way to use the transmog system is through making a unique outfit instead of simply being able to change armor pieces' styles.

Got it, that makes way more sense. I was thinking, make this beautiful outfit, change Plague Doctor to High Elf (or whaterver) then cover with costume. My brain hurt trying to wrap my head around that one. I see your point, is it one and and done or can we put it on and take it off or is it lost when we "remove" it? I suspect I know the answer, which ever drive people to the Crown $tore.

Smaxx · January 2018

Gravord wrote: »

"With the Outfit System, you can change the appearance of your equipment to reflect any of your known crafting styles"

YOUR known styles. Any reason to spit in crafter faces once again?

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Only the crafters have the free choices. Everyone else has the same options as they do have right now: Acquire the style yourself and create the item or let someone create it for you.

SGT_Wolfe101st · January 2018

CardboardedBox wrote: »

Linaleah wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Weapons are included in the Outfit System, so you'll be able to not only change how your weapon looks, but also... dye it! Cool, right?

that's nice and all, but how do i change the look on alts that are NOT my master crafters?

I never even thought of that....My alts Don't really know any motifs, and the ones I would want to use like mazzatun are way too difficult/expensive to get a second time.

You know you can buy the motifs at the Crown $tore. Why did I get so excited about this? I knew they would just bury it in the money shop, ZO$ is no different than EA or Bungie or anyone else. Money Money Money...

SirCritical · January 2018

Cinbri wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno will we be able to hide finally show our tabard with transmoged armors?

Let me correct it for you.

Esha76 · January 2018

I really don't understand why everyone is so happy.

I am exceedingly disappointed, and almost insulted, to see this tied into your cash shop. I'm not surprised, I was expecting a move like this, but still held out that you would do the right thing.

Forgive me if these have been answered elsewhere:

1) What is an "Outfit Change Token" and how much money are you charging for these things? I am assuming that every time I want to make, or change, an outfit I'm going to need one of these things?

2) How many outfit slots will be available to buy total and how much money are you charging for each of them?

Enemy-of-Coldharbour · January 2018

I'm a bit confused. So, it sounds to me that we are not actually changing the appearance of an item, but basically making a costume/outfit to cover it? If this is correct, I've gotta say seriously, who comes up with these ideas? Why can't we just change the item appearance and be done with it?

Jade1986 · January 2018

Smaxx wrote: »

Gravord wrote: »

"With the Outfit System, you can change the appearance of your equipment to reflect any of your known crafting styles"

YOUR known styles. Any reason to spit in crafter faces once again?

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Only the crafters have the free choices. Everyone else has the same options as they do have right now: Acquire the style yourself and create the item or let someone create it for you.

We do not know if it will be bound. For example transmute and dying bijnds the gear. If it isnt bound, THATD BE GREAT. But I doubt that will be the case.

MercTheMage · January 2018

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

I'm a bit confused. So, it sounds to me that we are not actually changing the appearance of an item, but basically making a costume/outfit to cover it? If this is correct, I've gotta say seriously, who comes up with these ideas? Why can't we just change the item appearance and be done with it?

It seems like it yes, however I'm starting to think it might be the lesser of 2 evils.
They could've made it like retraiting, forcing us to grind for each item we wanna change.

SGT_Wolfe101st · January 2018

Jade1986 wrote: »

Smaxx wrote: »

Gravord wrote: »

"With the Outfit System, you can change the appearance of your equipment to reflect any of your known crafting styles"

YOUR known styles. Any reason to spit in crafter faces once again?

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Only the crafters have the free choices. Everyone else has the same options as they do have right now: Acquire the style yourself and create the item or let someone create it for you.

We do not know if it will be bound. For example transmute and dying bijnds the gear. If it isnt bound, THATD BE GREAT. But I doubt that will be the case.

If it is unbound that would be so great for crafters but no way they will let that happen. Give it to a guildy to change for you or push you the Crown $tore to buy the motif, I wonder which ZO$ will do...

opaj · January 2018

Esha76 wrote: »

I am exceedingly disappointed, and almost insulted, to see this tied into your cash shop. I'm not surprised, I was expecting a move like this, but still held out that you would do the right thing.

Giving away free cosmetic options is the right thing to do? ZOS did the right thing when they made transmutation accessible solely through gameplay (even if it is a huge slog if you don't have the Clockwork City DLC). The vast majority of cosmetic options we have are through the crown store, so why should this be any different?

That said...

Esha76 wrote: »

1) What is an "Outfit Change Token" and how much money are you charging for these things? I am assuming that every time I want to make, or change, an outfit I'm going to need one of these things?

2) How many outfit slots will be available to buy total and how much money are you charging for each of them?

Yes, I'd also like to know this. While I think it's reasonable for ZOS to charge for this, how often and how much we will have to pay will determine whether or not I actually partake in this system... and how many slots I can have.

(About 30 of my main character's inventory slots are taken up by different changes of clothes. So if I can't get at least 30 outfit slots, and get them at a relatively reasonable price, then there's no reason for me to switch over to outfits for her.)

Linaleah · January 2018

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

I'm a bit confused. So, it sounds to me that we are not actually changing the appearance of an item, but basically making a costume/outfit to cover it? If this is correct, I've gotta say seriously, who comes up with these ideas? Why can't we just change the item appearance and be done with it?

I know right? in every game that I have played personaly, that has a transmog system - you change individual items. the one game where you create outfit stamps that I have played personaly - swtor, you do create outfits, but you can use any gear you want, you get one outfit slot PER character, and you can modify said outfit as much as you'd like without buying cash shop tokens. when a game with one of the worst monetanization systems on the market.. is STILL less restrictive? I don't even know what to day anymore

Nestor · January 2018

dotme wrote: »

My PvP character has earned over 400 transmutation crystals (combination of opened and un-cracked geodes) and I can't use them on my fully leveled crafter.

@dotme

Yes, you can. The Crystals are a Currency that is available to any character on your account. Your PvP character earns them, your crafter uses them. Just use the bank to give items you get on your PvP character to your Crafter to change then send them back.

As you probably know, changing a trait binds the item to your account, but not your character.

And, just to add, the Crystals are automatically added to the pool, so you don't have to deposit them first.

lucky_Sage · January 2018

will armor weight and lvl matter or can I use any lvl or weight to make to toon look how I image he should

Winchester1306 · January 2018

This is great news, but . . . there is one thing I need clarification on before I become even remotely excited about it.

Will the styles, appearances and motifs be account wide like dyes? Or, whatever one character has unlocked only that character can use? If this is the case, I hate the system already. Because I dumped all of my rare and crown store styles on one toon that has the best crafting skills, but then none of my other toons that I prefer playing will be able to use those styles?

Please @ZOS_GinaBruno can you clear this up?

Esha76 · January 2018

opaj wrote: »

Esha76 wrote: »

I am exceedingly disappointed, and almost insulted, to see this tied into your cash shop. I'm not surprised, I was expecting a move like this, but still held out that you would do the right thing.

Giving away free cosmetic options is the right thing to do? ZOS did the right thing when they made transmutation accessible solely through gameplay (even if it is a huge slog if you don't have the Clockwork City DLC). The vast majority of cosmetic options we have are through the crown store, so why should this be any different?

That said...

Esha76 wrote: »

1) What is an "Outfit Change Token" and how much money are you charging for these things? I am assuming that every time I want to make, or change, an outfit I'm going to need one of these things?

2) How many outfit slots will be available to buy total and how much money are you charging for each of them?

Yes, I'd also like to know this. While I think it's reasonable for ZOS to charge for this, how often and how much we will have to pay will determine whether or not I actually partake in this system... and how many slots I can have.

(About 30 of my main character's inventory slots are taken up by different changes of clothes. So if I can't get at least 30 outfit slots, and get them at a relatively reasonable price, then there's no reason for me to switch over to outfits for her.)

Yeah... It would have been the right thing to do in my opinion. I feel I have been nickle and dimed enough. Just because it's cosmetic doesn't mean it has to be tied to the cash shop. That's why it should be different.

I put a lot of time, gold, and effort, in obtaining almost all of the motif styles in the hopes of being able to use them in a system like this one day. Now this day is here, and I learn I have to spend cash in order to be able to put these motifs to use every time. There's another reason for you why it should be different.

And my post clearly states that I was not surprised by this, so I don't need you trying to point this out to me. Nor do I have any interest in arguing with you, or anyone, about this.

Takes-No-Prisoner · January 2018

dotme wrote: »

I'm probably just dense, but I don't understand a lot of the restrictions on this kind of stuff. My PvP character has earned over 400 transmutation crystals (combination of opened and un-cracked geodes) and I can't use them on my fully leveled crafter.

What is up with that? I have a dedicated character that makes all my weapons, armor etc. Spent over a year leveling up and almost have full 9 traits on everything. But those 50-crystal end-of-campaign rewards on my PvP character just sit there and I can't use them? I'm finding a lot of what at first seems like good news and nice changes to the game simply don't apply to me.

@dotme

We're both on the same server, and I can use mine just fine(on an alt/AD character). Are you saying you're having trouble finding ideas on what to transmute? I made a post in the PS4 NA Vivec campaign thread to Kylewwefan about some great suggestions on what to transmute.

emilyhyoyeon · January 2018

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

I'm a bit confused. So, it sounds to me that we are not actually changing the appearance of an item, but basically making a costume/outfit to cover it? If this is correct, I've gotta say seriously, who comes up with these ideas? Why can't we just change the item appearance and be done with it?

yeah this is my concern as well. I'm hoping that the system is both of these things - change item appearance and costume creation - because I know that players talked about wanting both.

Smaxx · January 2018

Esha76 wrote: »

1) What is an "Outfit Change Token" and how much money are you charging for these things? I am assuming that every time I want to make, or change, an outfit I'm going to need one of these things?

Reread the announcement. You don't have to buy the tokens. You can use your gold only. The tokens are for people who don't want to pay the money, similar to how the respec scrolls work in addition to the shrines in the game. As such I wouldn't worry too much, plus you can probably preview everything before finalizing something.

Linaleah · January 2018

Smaxx wrote: »

Esha76 wrote: »

1) What is an "Outfit Change Token" and how much money are you charging for these things? I am assuming that every time I want to make, or change, an outfit I'm going to need one of these things?

Reread the announcement. You don't have to buy the tokens. You can use your gold only. The tokens are for people who don't want to pay the money, similar to how the respec scrolls work in addition to the shrines in the game. As such I wouldn't worry too much, plus you can probably preview everything before finalizing something.

you do have to buy tokens. if you want more then one outfit. you get ONE outfit. ONE. with gold.

you know I used to complain about Neverwinter and how much it nickel and dimes you, but its a f2p game and all. it STILL does outfit costumization/transmog better then what we seem to be getting.

Esha76 · January 2018

Smaxx wrote: »

Esha76 wrote: »

1) What is an "Outfit Change Token" and how much money are you charging for these things? I am assuming that every time I want to make, or change, an outfit I'm going to need one of these things?

Reread the announcement. You don't have to buy the tokens. You can use your gold only. The tokens are for people who don't want to pay the money, similar to how the respec scrolls work in addition to the shrines in the game. As such I wouldn't worry too much, plus you can probably preview everything before finalizing something.

Okay. I was reading that as though only that "one unique outfit" would be customizable with gold and the rest are all through the cash shop. As though it would have been only a one time thing.

Thank you.

Giraffon · January 2018

Bah. I'm going to have reload PTS now. Big monster space hog that it is, I gotta' see how this is gonna work.

LukosCreyden · January 2018

I can dye my weapons...
I CAN DYE MY WEAPONS?
I CAN DYE MY WEAPONS!?!?!?

Oh praise ye zenimax! I love you more than- (list of things here)

Enemy-of-Coldharbour · January 2018

Another question:

Will we be able to make 'light' look 'heavy' for example?

@ZOS_GinaBruno

DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER · January 2018

Can you wear it in cyro, ic or battlegrounds?