Ragnarock41 wrote: »I love how the sorc community starts to troll everything when something actually broken is being talked about.
IF I can't crit shields, I should not proc wizard riposte when hitting a shield, simple as that really.
I don't know how can you argue against something as clear as this.
Waffennacht wrote: »You can crit shields but won't deal crit damage.
This is why, for example, a shield won't just pwn power surge or scathing mage.
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It's liking reading my own posts 3 years ago, and now realizing, I really did need to L2P back then.
But I hate telling people to L2P...
But....
If the shoe fits...
Waffennacht wrote: »You can crit shields but won't deal crit damage.
This is why, for example, a shield won't just pwn power surge or scathing mage.
...
It's liking reading my own posts 3 years ago, and now realizing, I really did need to L2P back then.
But I hate telling people to L2P...
But....
If the shoe fits...
I said the shield takes critical damage but does not take extra damage. you besides having to learn to play you need to learn to read and stop with your arrogance.
Ragnarock41 wrote: »I love how the sorc community starts to troll everything when something actually broken is being talked about.
IF I can't crit shields, I should not proc wizard riposte when hitting a shield, simple as that really.
I don't know how can you argue against something as clear as this.
Some interesting info here, so does that mean that something like briarheart will proc on dmg shields too?
Emma_Overload wrote: »Ragnarock41 wrote: »I love how the sorc community starts to troll everything when something actually broken is being talked about.
IF I can't crit shields, I should not proc wizard riposte when hitting a shield, simple as that really.
I don't know how can you argue against something as clear as this.
The argument is that the whole point of the set is to reduce incoming damage. How can it be fair for healers and blockers to benefit from this set, but not shielders? When are you guys going to get it through your heads that shields are the de facto mechanic for magicka Sorcs to survive incoming damage? Why should sets like Riposte and Pirate Skeleton be off limits to Sorcs?
Knootewoot wrote: »Shield breaker should break shields. Not fire through it.
#NerfShieldBreaker
Emma_Overload wrote: »Ragnarock41 wrote: »I love how the sorc community starts to troll everything when something actually broken is being talked about.
IF I can't crit shields, I should not proc wizard riposte when hitting a shield, simple as that really.
I don't know how can you argue against something as clear as this.
The argument is that the whole point of the set is to reduce incoming damage. How can it be fair for healers and blockers to benefit from this set, but not shielders? When are you guys going to get it through your heads that shields are the de facto mechanic for magicka Sorcs to survive incoming damage? Why should sets like Riposte and Pirate Skeleton be off limits to Sorcs?
This set needs 2 things. Remove the procc when you crit a shield on the target, and give it a 5s cooldown so you cant keep proccing it on unlimited targets all the time. (personally Id also like a reduction in the duration of the maim)
Ragnarock41 wrote: »I love how the sorc community starts to troll everything when something actually broken is being talked about.
IF I can't crit shields, I should not proc wizard riposte when hitting a shield, simple as that really.
I don't know how can you argue against something as clear as this.
This set needs 2 things. Remove the procc when you crit a shield on the target, and give it a 5s cooldown so you cant keep proccing it on unlimited targets all the time. (personally Id also like a reduction in the duration of the maim)
It isn't anything to do with reposte, its how shields work. Even though they don't take crit damage, they still register as crit hits - for good or ill. eg. A stam sorc with surge up critting against a shield user will trigger the crit-surge heal, just as the shield-user will trigger reposte.
I'm pretty sure zos introduced this set with full knowledge of that mechanic.
You cannot change it for one without impacting every other set/ability/mechanic that triggers off a crit. I'm sure nobody really wants that.
If u are not receiving the crit dmg u cant proc a crit dmg effect, this is obvious
Ragnarock41 wrote: »I love how the 3 sorcs left start to troll everything when something actually broken is being talked about.
IF I can't crit shields, I should not proc wizard riposte when hitting a shield, simple as that really.
I don't know how can you argue against something as clear as this.
Knootewoot wrote: »Shield breaker should break shields. Not fire through it.
#NerfShieldBreaker
Sometimes the only way to beat cheese is to bring even more cheese . Should rename the set to "Cheese-breaker"
If u are not receiving the crit dmg u cant proc a crit dmg effect, this is obvious
Or maybe, MAYBE, the devs... you know, the dudes who make this game and know how it works... were aware of how shields notice crits and decided to not give WR a generic chance, but make it more effective against something you already can mitigate, to balance it.
I know, MIND=BLOWN!
Malamar1229 wrote: »Knootewoot wrote: »Shield breaker should break shields. Not fire through it.
#NerfShieldBreaker
Sometimes the only way to beat cheese is to bring even more cheese . Should rename the set to "Cheese-breaker"
Ok so where's the block breaker set?
If u are not receiving the crit dmg u cant proc a crit dmg effect, this is obvious
Or maybe, MAYBE, the devs... you know, the dudes who make this game and know how it works... were aware of how shields notice crits and decided to not give WR a generic chance, but make it more effective against something you already can mitigate, to balance it.
I know, MIND=BLOWN!
Exploit... crit dmg =! Crit strike
It isn't anything to do with reposte, its how shields work. Even though they don't take crit damage, they still register as crit hits - for good or ill. eg. A stam sorc with surge up critting against a shield user will trigger the crit-surge heal, just as the shield-user will trigger reposte.
I'm pretty sure zos introduced this set with full knowledge of that mechanic.
You cannot change it for one without impacting every other set/ability/mechanic that triggers off a crit. I'm sure nobody really wants that.
Im sure people here are not understanding what im saying...
Critical DMG is completely different from Critical STRIKE
Power Surge:
While active, dealing a Critical Strike heals you for [x] Health. This effect can occur once every 1 second.
Wizard's Riposte Set:
When you take Critical Damage, you apply Minor Maim to the enemy for 15 seconds, reducing their damage done by 15%
If u have shields up and u are not receiving the critical dmg it is not a crit dmg, it is just a crit strike, because the critical damage multiplier (shield) is 0 and something x 0 is 0 so THERE IS NO CRIT DMG. What im seeing here is a bunch of people trying to justify a exploit... this set is applying minor main whitout any cooldown for 15sec and without any kind of downside, minor maim is a strong debuff so u must to recive the crit dmg to proc it (the downside)... it is balancing ...
Ragnarock41 wrote: »I love how the sorc community starts to troll everything when something actually broken is being talked about.
IF I can't crit shields, I should not proc wizard riposte when hitting a shield, simple as that really.
I don't know how can you argue against something as clear as this.
This set needs 2 things. Remove the procc when you crit a shield on the target, and give it a 5s cooldown so you cant keep proccing it on unlimited targets all the time. (personally Id also like a reduction in the duration of the maim)
Because only NBs and DKs should have Maim?
And if you nerf it that way, people are just gonna spam Necropotence+Shadowrend your way.
Also an overlooked option...This set needs 2 things. Remove the procc when you crit a shield on the target, and give it a 5s cooldown so you cant keep proccing it on unlimited targets all the time. (personally Id also like a reduction in the duration of the maim)
Because only NBs and DKs should have Maim?
And if you nerf it that way, people are just gonna spam Necropotence+Shadowrend your way.
You can use knightmare ^^
I think the set is OK