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ASYLUM DUAL WIELD WEAPONS SUCK, HELP ZOS MAKE THEM BETTER!
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Insandros✭✭✭✭i don't wanna be an ass, but posting PTS stuff on PTS sections wouldn't be more helpful?Edited by Insandros on October 6, 2017 12:28PM0 -
Shadzilla✭✭✭✭✭
✭@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_MattL @ZOS_MikaS Can anyone move this thread to the PTS forums please? It is getting no action in general discussion, and I really want the new dual wield weapons to be relevant in this game.
@ZOS_CoriJ Maybe you can help out with moving this thread?1 -
firedrgn✭✭✭✭✭Lets make eso great again.
I think they are on the right track,some,kewl ideas. Not sure ill ever be able to,get them as I am a casual player. No bis player will use them,from,what I,can tell. Oh well. Nice,thought tho. I like variety.
Seems like they want to give us something,bit don't want to do,anything,that will buff PvP.
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Shadzilla✭✭✭✭✭
✭Lets make eso great again.
I think they are on the right track,some,kewl ideas. Not sure ill ever be able to,get them as I am a casual player. No bis player will use them,from,what I,can tell. Oh well. Nice,thought tho. I like variety.
Seems like they want to give us something,bit don't want to do,anything,that will buff PvP.
Buffing steel tornado's flat damage would not buff pvp as it is rarely used. Doing that will give these weapons a decent spot for aoe damage with very simple coding.0 -
Toc de Malsvi✭✭✭✭✭
✭Lets make eso great again.
I think they are on the right track,some,kewl ideas. Not sure ill ever be able to,get them as I am a casual player. No bis player will use them,from,what I,can tell. Oh well. Nice,thought tho. I like variety.
Seems like they want to give us something,bit don't want to do,anything,that will buff PvP.
Buffing steel tornado's flat damage would not buff pvp as it is rarely used. Doing that will give these weapons a decent spot for aoe damage with very simple coding.
Sort of, par of why it is rarely used is because it doesnt deal great damage. PVP balance revolves around overall skill balance. A buff might result in it being used and it might not.Legendary Archer of ValenwoodBosmer Dragon Knight Archer. XBox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)Bosmer Nightblade Archer. Xbox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)Bosmer Sorcerer Archer. Xbox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)Bosmer Warden Archer. Xbox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)Templar's are evil..0 -
Shadzilla✭✭✭✭✭
✭Toc de Malsvi wrote: »Lets make eso great again.
I think they are on the right track,some,kewl ideas. Not sure ill ever be able to,get them as I am a casual player. No bis player will use them,from,what I,can tell. Oh well. Nice,thought tho. I like variety.
Seems like they want to give us something,bit don't want to do,anything,that will buff PvP.
Buffing steel tornado's flat damage would not buff pvp as it is rarely used. Doing that will give these weapons a decent spot for aoe damage with very simple coding.
Sort of, par of why it is rarely used is because it doesnt deal great damage. PVP balance revolves around overall skill balance. A buff might result in it being used and it might not.
Currently they will never be used by anyone, ever... Which is pretty sad considering how many people were very excited for these weapons... Really rough they are still trash while we are so close to this patch going live.0 -
GeorgeBlack✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭DW sucks in general.
It can only be used by stamSorc and maybe stamNB (2h and or SnB front/back is more competitive anyways.)
DW can be improved by making Momentum a Fighters guild ability.
DW can be improved by increasing the active execute by 100% more damage on low hp targets (200%-250%)
DW can be improved by making Whirling Blades offer a soft CC knockback + a modest damage increase. Same radius.
So many other ideas.
But nothing will happen. Forum trolls will say DW is fine as it is.
Zos would rather sell weapon skins instead of fixing DW.
PvP
Edited by GeorgeBlack on October 21, 2017 1:13AM0 -
GeorgeBlack✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭And here is what bothers me most.
You are worried about the passive stats of Asylum DW. PASSIVE.
But you don't care about DW and its functionality. ACTIVE. ACTION. Active reactive COMBAT.Edited by GeorgeBlack on October 21, 2017 1:22AM0 -
Ladislao✭✭✭✭✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »But nothing will happen. Forum trolls will say DW is fine as it is.
Zos would rather sell weapon skins instead of fixing DW.
You know forum trolls will say DW is useless and Reflective Scale must have stamina morph.
But ZOS has statistics on which they see the real situation. Just adapt to the balance and be happy.Everything is viable0 -
GeorgeBlack✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »But nothing will happen. Forum trolls will say DW is fine as it is.
Zos would rather sell weapon skins instead of fixing DW.
You know forum trolls will say DW is useless and Reflective Scale must have stamina morph.
But ZOS has statistics on which they see the real situation. Just adapt to the balance and be happy.
Try harder white knightEdited by GeorgeBlack on October 21, 2017 5:03AM0 -
Shadzilla✭✭✭✭✭
✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »DW sucks in general.
It can only be used by stamSorc and maybe stamNB (2h and or SnB front/back is more competitive anyways.)
DW can be improved by making Momentum a Fighters guild ability.
DW can be improved by increasing the active execute by 100% more damage on low hp targets (200%-250%)
DW can be improved by making Whirling Blades offer a soft CC knockback + a modest damage increase. Same radius.
So many other ideas.
But nothing will happen. Forum trolls will say DW is fine as it is.
Zos would rather sell weapon skins instead of fixing DW.
PvP
Dual wield is bis for pve, and I know some extremely good players that use 2h/dw for pvp. I agree that dw is weaker in pvp, but the fact remains that these weapons are still trash regardless of how you look at it.0 -
GeorgeBlack✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »DW sucks in general.
It can only be used by stamSorc and maybe stamNB (2h and or SnB front/back is more competitive anyways.)
DW can be improved by making Momentum a Fighters guild ability.
DW can be improved by increasing the active execute by 100% more damage on low hp targets (200%-250%)
DW can be improved by making Whirling Blades offer a soft CC knockback + a modest damage increase. Same radius.
So many other ideas.
But nothing will happen. Forum trolls will say DW is fine as it is.
Zos would rather sell weapon skins instead of fixing DW.
PvP
Dual wield is bis for pve, and I know some extremely good players that use 2h/dw for pvp. I agree that dw is weaker in pvp, but the fact remains that these weapons are still trash regardless of how you look at it.
PvE doesn't attack you back.
PvE can't get through to your groups Tank.
PvE cannot kill you because your groups healer heals you.
DW should not be PvE only.0 -
Shadzilla✭✭✭✭✭
✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »DW sucks in general.
It can only be used by stamSorc and maybe stamNB (2h and or SnB front/back is more competitive anyways.)
DW can be improved by making Momentum a Fighters guild ability.
DW can be improved by increasing the active execute by 100% more damage on low hp targets (200%-250%)
DW can be improved by making Whirling Blades offer a soft CC knockback + a modest damage increase. Same radius.
So many other ideas.
But nothing will happen. Forum trolls will say DW is fine as it is.
Zos would rather sell weapon skins instead of fixing DW.
PvP
Dual wield is bis for pve, and I know some extremely good players that use 2h/dw for pvp. I agree that dw is weaker in pvp, but the fact remains that these weapons are still trash regardless of how you look at it.
PvE doesn't attack you back.
PvE can't get through to your groups Tank.
PvE cannot kill you because your groups healer heals you.
DW should not be PvE only.
DW is not pve only, I know a couple grand overlords that are very skilled that use 2h/dw setups... I agree that dw is much less effective in pvp, but it is still used. Regardless, these weapons should have been effective for at least one aspect of the game (pve or pvp), currently they are just decon trash.0 -
Bobby_V_Rockit✭✭✭✭✭
✭Are they worth giving up a 5pc set, flawless dawnbreaker and a slot for steel tornado? Bit of fun, but I cant get a decent build around them, I tried 5x TFS, 3x VO, 2x stormfist and dual asylum, better off with 5x VOEdited by Bobby_V_Rockit on December 20, 2017 1:03PM0
