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End of net neutrality will kill f2p/b2p
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ParaNostram✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Don't worry, we can totally trust the Capitalist internet providers not to be greedy as they are and exploit this for as much profit as possible. Tooooooootally.Edited by ParaNostram on December 15, 2017 1:51PM"Your mistake is you begged for your life, not for mercy. I will show you there are many fates worse than death."
Para Nostram
Bosmer Sorceress
Witch of Evermore
"Death is a privilege that can be denied by it's learned scholars."
Order of the Black Worm6 -
BuddyAces✭✭✭✭✭
✭Meh, here's a good read on it. http://i.magaimg.net/img/23vv.pngThey nerfed magsorcs so hard stamsorcs felt it,lol - Somber97866
I'm blown away by the utter stupidity I see here on the daily. - Wrekkedd0 -
Doctordarkspawn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Verbal_Earthworm wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Verbal_Earthworm wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Verbal_Earthworm wrote: »You voted Trump for president and Net Neutrality is all you're worried about?
Heh.
1. Politics.
2. The man isn't nearly as incompitent as people think he is. He's not a politician, but he's also not an idiot when it comes to buisness. If your not native to the US, I suggest you work under the assumption that everything your told about the man is a straight up lie until proven otherwise. Even if you live in the US, operate under this assumption for anything taken from television.
1. Hahaha...good one.
2. Way to assume yourself into stupidity, i don't watch television or read newspapers, i just read his tweets.
3. Turn on spellcheck.
"Read his tweets".
First off, twitter is a measure of nothing.
Second, it depends on what your metric is. Is he stupid because he disagree's with you? Well then your too far gone and not worth saving anyway.
But then, your apparent insistance on my spelling says it all.
This makes no sense at all. Try reading what i said again. I was referring to you as "assuming yourself into stupidity" and then you go and do it again. If you want to be taken seriously then spellchecking is a good way to not be seen as an uneducated teenager. To dismiss his tweets as a "measure of nothing" is not only ignorant but wilfully avoiding the truth. Are you trying to say he doesn't write his own tweets?
What I am trying to say is in a legal, political, and any other sense but personality and personal morality, twitter is a metric worth ice cubes in hell. Unless, in the case of violation of NDA's and other spoken agreements about privacy. None of which apply to Trump in this context.
There is no despute the man is horrible. There is a despute to whether or not that's relevent to anything else. And I say, it isn't.
Yes. I assume. And you have yet to provide what you use twitter as a metric of, and what your thought process is, so I will continue to do so until you give me something concrete. If you dont want me to guess about your methodology, tell me. Dont patronize me when you give me no other options.
Then again, and I am making an assumption though I feel very comfortable on this one, that your going to be belligerant with me no matter what because I dont agree with you on this.
Edited by Doctordarkspawn on December 15, 2017 2:03PM0 -
Storm_knight22✭✭✭✭Verbal_Earthworm wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Verbal_Earthworm wrote: »You voted Trump for president and Net Neutrality is all you're worried about?
Heh.
1. Politics.
2. The man isn't nearly as incompitent as people think he is. He's not a politician, but he's also not an idiot when it comes to buisness. If your not native to the US, I suggest you work under the assumption that everything your told about the man is a straight up lie until proven otherwise. Even if you live in the US, operate under this assumption for anything taken from television.
1. Hahaha...good one.
2. Way to assume yourself into stupidity, i don't watch television or read newspapers, i just read his tweets.
3. Turn on spellcheck.
Gets his news from twitter, insults someone else's intelligence.
okayI want spell crafting.6 -
Doctordarkspawn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I'll keep this simple.
ISPs will now charge content providers (ZOS in this case) more money to offer current services to their customers. Content providers will pass on increased costs to the customer. However, since this game relies on crown store and paid chapter products and not subscriptions, ZOS has a problem. Crown prices are already as high as customers are willing to pay, and chapters are expensive as is, soooooo where will they get the money to stay profitable with increased operating costs?
Didn't think net neutrality repeal would affect you or online gaming? Think again. As long as the repeal to neutrality is here to stay I see a revival in subscription based gaming for the desktop computer gaming market.
Good luck ZOS.
actually what you will see is companies move their servers out of the US into canada and mexico. And if US have to pay more, so be it since its your guys fault for electing an idiot that only ones to do one thing, get rid of everything obama did.
The current president in no way had anything to do with this position. The current head of the FCC was appointed by the previous, and moved by the current.
This is purely a boneheaded move by Congress and the Senate. You give the man more power by making him the devil for every decision made by the government today.3 -
jakeedmundson✭✭✭✭✭Ihatenightblades wrote: »
Stop making it about "liberal" and "conservative"... this affects everyone... literally everyone.
It's not about the internet "growth"... it's about allowing extremely wealthy people to pay off OUR government reps to serve a special interest. It always comes down to "how can we make MORE money and screw the little guys?"
If you think nothing will change after this... then enjoy your ignorance.
But try to honestly answer this question...
If nothing is going to change... then why repeal those laws?Edited by jakeedmundson on December 15, 2017 2:14PMCP690
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✭✭✭Doctordarkspawn wrote: »I'll keep this simple.
ISPs will now charge content providers (ZOS in this case) more money to offer current services to their customers. Content providers will pass on increased costs to the customer. However, since this game relies on crown store and paid chapter products and not subscriptions, ZOS has a problem. Crown prices are already as high as customers are willing to pay, and chapters are expensive as is, soooooo where will they get the money to stay profitable with increased operating costs?
Didn't think net neutrality repeal would affect you or online gaming? Think again. As long as the repeal to neutrality is here to stay I see a revival in subscription based gaming for the desktop computer gaming market.
Good luck ZOS.
actually what you will see is companies move their servers out of the US into canada and mexico. And if US have to pay more, so be it since its your guys fault for electing an idiot that only ones to do one thing, get rid of everything obama did.
The current president in no way had anything to do with this position. The current head of the FCC was appointed by the previous, and moved by the current.
This is purely a boneheaded move by Congress and the Senate. You give the man more power by making him the devil for every decision made by the government today.
Well as Truman said " The buck stops here " , referring to himself. So I, and others will hold him accountable if he ignores stuff like this.1 -
Doctordarkspawn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Meh, here's a good read on it. http://i.magaimg.net/img/23vv.png
Well this was terrifying.0 -
Doctordarkspawn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Doctordarkspawn wrote: »I'll keep this simple.
ISPs will now charge content providers (ZOS in this case) more money to offer current services to their customers. Content providers will pass on increased costs to the customer. However, since this game relies on crown store and paid chapter products and not subscriptions, ZOS has a problem. Crown prices are already as high as customers are willing to pay, and chapters are expensive as is, soooooo where will they get the money to stay profitable with increased operating costs?
Didn't think net neutrality repeal would affect you or online gaming? Think again. As long as the repeal to neutrality is here to stay I see a revival in subscription based gaming for the desktop computer gaming market.
Good luck ZOS.
actually what you will see is companies move their servers out of the US into canada and mexico. And if US have to pay more, so be it since its your guys fault for electing an idiot that only ones to do one thing, get rid of everything obama did.
The current president in no way had anything to do with this position. The current head of the FCC was appointed by the previous, and moved by the current.
This is purely a boneheaded move by Congress and the Senate. You give the man more power by making him the devil for every decision made by the government today.
Well as Truman said " The buck stops here " , referring to himself. So I, and others will hold him accountable if he ignores stuff like this.
...Even when he has no means of stopping, influencing, or doing anything about it, or if he does, not nearly enough to prevent anything, in addition to a large ammount of people attempting to make the world hate him and thus cutting off his only means of influencing the situation, the public?
That's like blaming a quad amputee for not stopping a train robbery after you've -stabbed him-. It's remarkibly stupid.3 -
ParaNostram✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭"Your mistake is you begged for your life, not for mercy. I will show you there are many fates worse than death."
Para Nostram
Bosmer Sorceress
Witch of Evermore
"Death is a privilege that can be denied by it's learned scholars."
Order of the Black Worm2 -
Doctordarkspawn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Verbal_Earthworm wrote: »Trump Apologists...
Heh.
Yep.
Unfit to be consulted on this.
You get your news from twitter and you -call me stupid-.
Heh.1 -
jakeedmundson✭✭✭✭✭Doctordarkspawn wrote: »I'll keep this simple.
ISPs will now charge content providers (ZOS in this case) more money to offer current services to their customers. Content providers will pass on increased costs to the customer. However, since this game relies on crown store and paid chapter products and not subscriptions, ZOS has a problem. Crown prices are already as high as customers are willing to pay, and chapters are expensive as is, soooooo where will they get the money to stay profitable with increased operating costs?
Didn't think net neutrality repeal would affect you or online gaming? Think again. As long as the repeal to neutrality is here to stay I see a revival in subscription based gaming for the desktop computer gaming market.
Good luck ZOS.
actually what you will see is companies move their servers out of the US into canada and mexico. And if US have to pay more, so be it since its your guys fault for electing an idiot that only ones to do one thing, get rid of everything obama did.
The current president in no way had anything to do with this position. The current head of the FCC was appointed by the previous, and moved by the current.
This is purely a boneheaded move by Congress and the Senate. You give the man more power by making him the devil for every decision made by the government today.
https://fcc.gov/about/leadership/ajit-pai
Ajit Pai was appointed by Trump.... almost word for word here.CP690
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ParaNostram✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭jakeedmundson wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »I'll keep this simple.
ISPs will now charge content providers (ZOS in this case) more money to offer current services to their customers. Content providers will pass on increased costs to the customer. However, since this game relies on crown store and paid chapter products and not subscriptions, ZOS has a problem. Crown prices are already as high as customers are willing to pay, and chapters are expensive as is, soooooo where will they get the money to stay profitable with increased operating costs?
Didn't think net neutrality repeal would affect you or online gaming? Think again. As long as the repeal to neutrality is here to stay I see a revival in subscription based gaming for the desktop computer gaming market.
Good luck ZOS.
actually what you will see is companies move their servers out of the US into canada and mexico. And if US have to pay more, so be it since its your guys fault for electing an idiot that only ones to do one thing, get rid of everything obama did.
The current president in no way had anything to do with this position. The current head of the FCC was appointed by the previous, and moved by the current.
This is purely a boneheaded move by Congress and the Senate. You give the man more power by making him the devil for every decision made by the government today.
https://fcc.gov/about/leadership/ajit-pai
Ajit Pai was appointed by Trump.... almost word for word here.jakeedmundson wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »I'll keep this simple.
ISPs will now charge content providers (ZOS in this case) more money to offer current services to their customers. Content providers will pass on increased costs to the customer. However, since this game relies on crown store and paid chapter products and not subscriptions, ZOS has a problem. Crown prices are already as high as customers are willing to pay, and chapters are expensive as is, soooooo where will they get the money to stay profitable with increased operating costs?
Didn't think net neutrality repeal would affect you or online gaming? Think again. As long as the repeal to neutrality is here to stay I see a revival in subscription based gaming for the desktop computer gaming market.
Good luck ZOS.
actually what you will see is companies move their servers out of the US into canada and mexico. And if US have to pay more, so be it since its your guys fault for electing an idiot that only ones to do one thing, get rid of everything obama did.
The current president in no way had anything to do with this position. The current head of the FCC was appointed by the previous, and moved by the current.
This is purely a boneheaded move by Congress and the Senate. You give the man more power by making him the devil for every decision made by the government today.
https://fcc.gov/about/leadership/ajit-pai
Ajit Pai was appointed by Trump.... almost word for word here.
Shhhhh you'll scare them away with "sources" and "facts" not to mention "reality" which the Right has a long tradition of running away from."Your mistake is you begged for your life, not for mercy. I will show you there are many fates worse than death."
Para Nostram
Bosmer Sorceress
Witch of Evermore
"Death is a privilege that can be denied by it's learned scholars."
Order of the Black Worm2 -
Ratzkifal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭OR OR OR!
ZOS moves to the EU where net neutrality was fortified as recently as 2016 which makes it unlikely (though not impossible) that they will try to get rid of it any time soon. xDThis Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.2 -
ParaNostram✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭OR OR OR!
ZOS moves to the EU where net neutrality was fortified as recently as 2016 which makes it unlikely (though not impossible) that they will try to get rid of it any time soon. xD
Can they take some of the player base with them? How about that as a give away during ESO live XD"Your mistake is you begged for your life, not for mercy. I will show you there are many fates worse than death."
Para Nostram
Bosmer Sorceress
Witch of Evermore
"Death is a privilege that can be denied by it's learned scholars."
Order of the Black Worm1 -
Ratzkifal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ParaNostram wrote: »OR OR OR!
ZOS moves to the EU where net neutrality was fortified as recently as 2016 which makes it unlikely (though not impossible) that they will try to get rid of it any time soon. xD
Can they take some of the player base with them? How about that as a give away during ESO live XD
Sorry but we don't take any more refugees xDEdited by Ratzkifal on December 15, 2017 2:26PMThis Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.0 -
Doctordarkspawn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭jakeedmundson wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »I'll keep this simple.
ISPs will now charge content providers (ZOS in this case) more money to offer current services to their customers. Content providers will pass on increased costs to the customer. However, since this game relies on crown store and paid chapter products and not subscriptions, ZOS has a problem. Crown prices are already as high as customers are willing to pay, and chapters are expensive as is, soooooo where will they get the money to stay profitable with increased operating costs?
Didn't think net neutrality repeal would affect you or online gaming? Think again. As long as the repeal to neutrality is here to stay I see a revival in subscription based gaming for the desktop computer gaming market.
Good luck ZOS.
actually what you will see is companies move their servers out of the US into canada and mexico. And if US have to pay more, so be it since its your guys fault for electing an idiot that only ones to do one thing, get rid of everything obama did.
The current president in no way had anything to do with this position. The current head of the FCC was appointed by the previous, and moved by the current.
This is purely a boneheaded move by Congress and the Senate. You give the man more power by making him the devil for every decision made by the government today.
https://fcc.gov/about/leadership/ajit-pai
Ajit Pai was appointed by Trump.... almost word for word here.
In 2011, Pai was then nominated for a Republican Party position on the Federal Communications Commission by President Barack Obama at the recommendation of Minority leader Mitch McConnell. He was confirmed unanimously by the United States Senate on May 7, 2012, and was sworn in on May 14, 2012, for a term that concluded on June 30, 2016.[1] Then Pai was designated chairman of the FCC by President Donald Trump in January 2017 for a five-year term.[17] He was confirmed by the U.S. Senate for the additional five-year term on October 2, 2017.[6]
This is taken from Wikipedia. It also states he held various positions in the FCC before Obama.
He was raised up by Obama, re-assigned by Trump.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajit_Pai#cite_note-Bio-1
This is the link. By all means. Check Wikipedia's sources.
Edited by Doctordarkspawn on December 15, 2017 2:27PM2 -
jakeedmundson✭✭✭✭✭Doctordarkspawn wrote: »jakeedmundson wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »I'll keep this simple.
ISPs will now charge content providers (ZOS in this case) more money to offer current services to their customers. Content providers will pass on increased costs to the customer. However, since this game relies on crown store and paid chapter products and not subscriptions, ZOS has a problem. Crown prices are already as high as customers are willing to pay, and chapters are expensive as is, soooooo where will they get the money to stay profitable with increased operating costs?
Didn't think net neutrality repeal would affect you or online gaming? Think again. As long as the repeal to neutrality is here to stay I see a revival in subscription based gaming for the desktop computer gaming market.
Good luck ZOS.
actually what you will see is companies move their servers out of the US into canada and mexico. And if US have to pay more, so be it since its your guys fault for electing an idiot that only ones to do one thing, get rid of everything obama did.
The current president in no way had anything to do with this position. The current head of the FCC was appointed by the previous, and moved by the current.
This is purely a boneheaded move by Congress and the Senate. You give the man more power by making him the devil for every decision made by the government today.
https://fcc.gov/about/leadership/ajit-pai
Ajit Pai was appointed by Trump.... almost word for word here.
In 2011, Pai was then nominated for a Republican Party position on the Federal Communications Commission by President Barack Obama at the recommendation of Minority leader Mitch McConnell. He was confirmed unanimously by the United States Senate on May 7, 2012, and was sworn in on May 14, 2012, for a term that concluded on June 30, 2016.[1] Then Pai was designated chairman of the FCC by President Donald Trump in January 2017 for a five-year term.[17] He was confirmed by the U.S. Senate for the additional five-year term on October 2, 2017.[6]
This is taken from Wikipedia. It also states he held various positions in the FCC before Obama.
He was raised up by Obama, re-assigned by Trump.
Please don't use wikipedia as a source for proper information... i can go on that page you just looked at and say
"Ajit Pai was a well known terrorist leader in Antarctica. His main goal in life was to rule the penguin world."
Bottom line is... Trump. Appointed. Pai. to. Commissioner. of. FCC.
All the correct info is on the FCC site i linked.CP690
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Ratzkifal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I bet Trump wouldn't have won the election if the net neutrality thing had been brought up during the campaign.This Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.3 -
Tan9oSuccka✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Jake-
"Ajit Pai was a well known terrorist leader in Antarctica. His main goal in life was to rule the penguin world."
I really needed this. Thanks for the laugh in an otherwise depressing thread.
Edited by Tan9oSuccka on December 15, 2017 2:36PM2 -
Apache_Kid✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭jakeedmundson wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »jakeedmundson wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »I'll keep this simple.
ISPs will now charge content providers (ZOS in this case) more money to offer current services to their customers. Content providers will pass on increased costs to the customer. However, since this game relies on crown store and paid chapter products and not subscriptions, ZOS has a problem. Crown prices are already as high as customers are willing to pay, and chapters are expensive as is, soooooo where will they get the money to stay profitable with increased operating costs?
Didn't think net neutrality repeal would affect you or online gaming? Think again. As long as the repeal to neutrality is here to stay I see a revival in subscription based gaming for the desktop computer gaming market.
Good luck ZOS.
actually what you will see is companies move their servers out of the US into canada and mexico. And if US have to pay more, so be it since its your guys fault for electing an idiot that only ones to do one thing, get rid of everything obama did.
The current president in no way had anything to do with this position. The current head of the FCC was appointed by the previous, and moved by the current.
This is purely a boneheaded move by Congress and the Senate. You give the man more power by making him the devil for every decision made by the government today.
https://fcc.gov/about/leadership/ajit-pai
Ajit Pai was appointed by Trump.... almost word for word here.
In 2011, Pai was then nominated for a Republican Party position on the Federal Communications Commission by President Barack Obama at the recommendation of Minority leader Mitch McConnell. He was confirmed unanimously by the United States Senate on May 7, 2012, and was sworn in on May 14, 2012, for a term that concluded on June 30, 2016.[1] Then Pai was designated chairman of the FCC by President Donald Trump in January 2017 for a five-year term.[17] He was confirmed by the U.S. Senate for the additional five-year term on October 2, 2017.[6]
This is taken from Wikipedia. It also states he held various positions in the FCC before Obama.
He was raised up by Obama, re-assigned by Trump.
Please don't use wikipedia as a source for proper information... i can go on that page you just looked at and say
"Ajit Pai was a well known terrorist leader in Antarctica. His main goal in life was to rule the penguin world."
Bottom line is... Trump. Appointed. Pai. to. Commissioner. of. FCC.
All the correct info is on the FCC site i linked.
Trump appointed him to Commissioner but he wouldn't have received his appointment if Obama had not nominated him for an FCC position. It's not uncommon for the incoming administration to keep some of the former admin employees on.
Also, Wikipedia is on average more accurate than other encyclopedia sites. Any sort of falsities are corrected very quickly by editors. Yeah you shouldn't cite it as a source in an academic paper but it's perfectly acceptable to use as a source when arguing something on a message board about a video game. Especially in this situation when it's correct.0 -
Apache_Kid✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I'll keep this simple.
ISPs will now charge content providers (ZOS in this case) more money to offer current services to their customers. Content providers will pass on increased costs to the customer. However, since this game relies on crown store and paid chapter products and not subscriptions, ZOS has a problem. Crown prices are already as high as customers are willing to pay, and chapters are expensive as is, soooooo where will they get the money to stay profitable with increased operating costs?
Didn't think net neutrality repeal would affect you or online gaming? Think again. As long as the repeal to neutrality is here to stay I see a revival in subscription based gaming for the desktop computer gaming market.
Good luck ZOS.
You can't start this conversation unless we have information on the current profit margins of ZoS and how big they are. I have a sneaking suspicion that they are higher than we all think. I think it'd be good to force them to re-invest some of these profits back into their product. That is probably my biggest criticism of ZoS that they do not do that as it is. The infrastructure of the game has not improved since i've been playing and neither has performance. I'd argue it's gotten worse. If this forces them to spend more money on their infrastructure then good. But I have the sneaking suspicion that this whole debacle wont mean a damn thing for ZoS and OP is overreacting like most of America is to this news.1 -
jakeedmundson✭✭✭✭✭Apache_Kid wrote: »jakeedmundson wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »jakeedmundson wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »I'll keep this simple.
ISPs will now charge content providers (ZOS in this case) more money to offer current services to their customers. Content providers will pass on increased costs to the customer. However, since this game relies on crown store and paid chapter products and not subscriptions, ZOS has a problem. Crown prices are already as high as customers are willing to pay, and chapters are expensive as is, soooooo where will they get the money to stay profitable with increased operating costs?
Didn't think net neutrality repeal would affect you or online gaming? Think again. As long as the repeal to neutrality is here to stay I see a revival in subscription based gaming for the desktop computer gaming market.
Good luck ZOS.
actually what you will see is companies move their servers out of the US into canada and mexico. And if US have to pay more, so be it since its your guys fault for electing an idiot that only ones to do one thing, get rid of everything obama did.
The current president in no way had anything to do with this position. The current head of the FCC was appointed by the previous, and moved by the current.
This is purely a boneheaded move by Congress and the Senate. You give the man more power by making him the devil for every decision made by the government today.
https://fcc.gov/about/leadership/ajit-pai
Ajit Pai was appointed by Trump.... almost word for word here.
In 2011, Pai was then nominated for a Republican Party position on the Federal Communications Commission by President Barack Obama at the recommendation of Minority leader Mitch McConnell. He was confirmed unanimously by the United States Senate on May 7, 2012, and was sworn in on May 14, 2012, for a term that concluded on June 30, 2016.[1] Then Pai was designated chairman of the FCC by President Donald Trump in January 2017 for a five-year term.[17] He was confirmed by the U.S. Senate for the additional five-year term on October 2, 2017.[6]
This is taken from Wikipedia. It also states he held various positions in the FCC before Obama.
He was raised up by Obama, re-assigned by Trump.
Please don't use wikipedia as a source for proper information... i can go on that page you just looked at and say
"Ajit Pai was a well known terrorist leader in Antarctica. His main goal in life was to rule the penguin world."
Bottom line is... Trump. Appointed. Pai. to. Commissioner. of. FCC.
All the correct info is on the FCC site i linked.
Trump appointed him to Commissioner but he wouldn't have received his appointment if Obama had not nominated him for an FCC position. It's not uncommon for the incoming administration to keep some of the former admin employees on.
Also, Wikipedia is on average more accurate than other encyclopedia sites. Any sort of falsities are corrected very quickly by editors. Yeah you shouldn't cite it as a source in an academic paper but it's perfectly acceptable to use as a source when arguing something on a message board about a video game. Especially in this situation when it's correct.
Correct info or not... it isn't a reliable site.
Also, i wasn't arguing the validity of that specific information. Just the website itself. On the FCC site i linked earlier, it provides similar info.
I also wasn't arguing that Obama did or did not appoint Ajit Pai in any way. Simply that Trump had placed Pai into the commissioner position.
PS. Lets just keep the topic focused on how that absence of net neutrality has potential to negatively impact everyone in america.Edited by jakeedmundson on December 15, 2017 2:44PMCP690
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scipionumatia✭✭✭✭Elder scrolls online is older than net neutrality...
im not going to say I understand why net neutrality was implemented in 2015, I also don't really know what it means now that its being repealed. BUT-- ESO was released before net neutrality was a thing, so I assume the repeal of net neutrality would mean very little for the game being that it was designed to exist before net neutrality came along.
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✭✭✭✭jakeedmundson wrote: »Apache_Kid wrote: »jakeedmundson wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »jakeedmundson wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »I'll keep this simple.
ISPs will now charge content providers (ZOS in this case) more money to offer current services to their customers. Content providers will pass on increased costs to the customer. However, since this game relies on crown store and paid chapter products and not subscriptions, ZOS has a problem. Crown prices are already as high as customers are willing to pay, and chapters are expensive as is, soooooo where will they get the money to stay profitable with increased operating costs?
Didn't think net neutrality repeal would affect you or online gaming? Think again. As long as the repeal to neutrality is here to stay I see a revival in subscription based gaming for the desktop computer gaming market.
Good luck ZOS.
actually what you will see is companies move their servers out of the US into canada and mexico. And if US have to pay more, so be it since its your guys fault for electing an idiot that only ones to do one thing, get rid of everything obama did.
The current president in no way had anything to do with this position. The current head of the FCC was appointed by the previous, and moved by the current.
This is purely a boneheaded move by Congress and the Senate. You give the man more power by making him the devil for every decision made by the government today.
https://fcc.gov/about/leadership/ajit-pai
Ajit Pai was appointed by Trump.... almost word for word here.
In 2011, Pai was then nominated for a Republican Party position on the Federal Communications Commission by President Barack Obama at the recommendation of Minority leader Mitch McConnell. He was confirmed unanimously by the United States Senate on May 7, 2012, and was sworn in on May 14, 2012, for a term that concluded on June 30, 2016.[1] Then Pai was designated chairman of the FCC by President Donald Trump in January 2017 for a five-year term.[17] He was confirmed by the U.S. Senate for the additional five-year term on October 2, 2017.[6]
This is taken from Wikipedia. It also states he held various positions in the FCC before Obama.
He was raised up by Obama, re-assigned by Trump.
Please don't use wikipedia as a source for proper information... i can go on that page you just looked at and say
"Ajit Pai was a well known terrorist leader in Antarctica. His main goal in life was to rule the penguin world."
Bottom line is... Trump. Appointed. Pai. to. Commissioner. of. FCC.
All the correct info is on the FCC site i linked.
Trump appointed him to Commissioner but he wouldn't have received his appointment if Obama had not nominated him for an FCC position. It's not uncommon for the incoming administration to keep some of the former admin employees on.
Also, Wikipedia is on average more accurate than other encyclopedia sites. Any sort of falsities are corrected very quickly by editors. Yeah you shouldn't cite it as a source in an academic paper but it's perfectly acceptable to use as a source when arguing something on a message board about a video game. Especially in this situation when it's correct.
Correct info or not... it isn't a reliable site.
Also, i wasn't arguing the validity of that specific information. Just the website itself. On the FCC site i linked earlier, it provides similar info.
I also wasn't arguing that Obama did or did not appoint Ajit Pai in any way. Simply that Trump had placed Pai into the commissioner position.
PS. Lets just keep the topic focused on how that absence of net neutrality has potential to negatively impact everyone in america.
It's more reliable then you are giving it credit for.
And literally everything the government does has a change to negatively impact Americans. This is true regardless of what party is in control. I would rather gather some information on how it plays out and how it actually affects Americans, if at all, before speculating that the sky is falling.0 -
erlewine✭✭✭cracks me up to no end that people think this "save net neutrality" nonsense is some grassroots "for the people" movement to SAVE THE INTERNET.
Guys, its literally a corporate scheme designed and paid for by billionaire companies to troll you into doing their work for them.
turn off CNN, close reddit, understand government regulation ain't all its cracked up to be (for more info, see: all of recorded history), and next time you promise to move to Canada, pls do itEdited by erlewine on December 15, 2017 3:04PMeisley the worst2 -
Serjustin19✭✭✭✭✭Fear not Washingtonian's, like Me (I hear California and New York is trying something to)
https://www.geekwire.com/2017/washington-state-leaders-announce-first-kind-plan-defend-net-neutrality-constituents/
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✭✭✭✭Mephilis78 wrote: »I'll keep this simple.
ISPs will now charge content providers (ZOS in this case) more money to offer current services to their customers. Content providers will pass on increased costs to the customer. However, since this game relies on crown store and paid chapter products and not subscriptions, ZOS has a problem. Crown prices are already as high as customers are willing to pay, and chapters are expensive as is, soooooo where will they get the money to stay profitable with increased operating costs?
Didn't think net neutrality repeal would affect you or online gaming? Think again. As long as the repeal to neutrality is here to stay I see a revival in subscription based gaming for the desktop computer gaming market.
Good luck ZOS.
So repealing a regulation=forcing all ISPs to throttle.
Got it. CNN is my god, and MSNBC is my savior.
Quit smoking crack
it doesn't force them, they just have very incentive to do so. Why do you think they lobbied so heavily for the repeal?0
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