Please allow us to check group in GF and decline

LadyAstrum · December 2017

How do you think the low levels feel? It's no picnic on the other side of the fence either you know.

Motherball · December 2017

If a player cannot deal with other random players, maybe they do not deserve the rewards. Nobody wants to group with players that harbor a poor attitude. They are probably ruining it for the other three players in their group.

O_LYKOS · December 2017

Just because a low level is in a dungeon using group finder, this doesn't mean they are looking to get carried.

Perhaps they're playing the game and trying to enjoy it without these high level players judging them for being so low.

swirve · December 2017

Motherball wrote: »

If you’re too stuck up to play w random players in a video game, you don’t deserve the extra rewards, imo. If its really that big of a deal, dont do randoms. Nobody wants to group with players that harbor that kind of attitude. You are probably ruining it for the other three players in your group.

I run 3 to 10 dngs a day with randoms.

@Motherball

[Edit to remove flaming]

Sixty5 · December 2017

The issue is mostly your mentality.

If you are signing up for a normal dungeon, you should assume that you will be playing with casuals and lowbies.

Realising that, you should adjust your build accordingly.
As a healer in a normal, you don't need to be chucking out combat prayers, orbs and spamming healing springs. That sort of thing is overkill.
Mutagen and the odd breath is more than enough to keep people topped up. Then stack some damage/defense skills so that you can actually do something worthwhile if your groupmates can only pull a combined dps of 5k.

People don't seem to get that swapping stuff around can make things easier than running whatever the youtube peeps say is the best. If you are running VCoS then slot purge. I don't care if you are a stam dps, you aren't using that magicka anyway, and your group will thank you for it.

swirve · December 2017

Sixty5 wrote: »

The issue is mostly your mentality.

If you are signing up for a normal dungeon, you should assume that you will be playing with casuals and lowbies.

Realising that, you should adjust your build accordingly.
As a healer in a normal, you don't need to be chucking out combat prayers, orbs and spamming healing springs. That sort of thing is overkill.
Mutagen and the odd breath is more than enough to keep people topped up. Then stack some damage/defense skills so that you can actually do something worthwhile if your groupmates can only pull a combined dps of 5k.

People don't seem to get that swapping stuff around can make things easier than running whatever the youtube peeps say is the best. If you are running VCoS then slot purge. I don't care if you are a stam dps, you aren't using that magicka anyway, and your group will thank you for it.

The issue is your lack of ability to read the original post, understand and stay on target.

@Sixty5

jaschacasadiob16_ESO · December 2017

Dungeons should work like veteran trials: after x deaths or y people left, the group should be disbanded. I would also like the option to avoid getting into an half done dungeon. Similarly, I would like to see who I should play with both in dungeons and trials before accepting (if its a random, keep the dungeon hidden, no problem).

Similarly, it would be nice to have a block people option that is independent of the PSN. The option should prevent getting grouped with blocked people. At the moment, blocking people through PSN will get you rouped (but unable to speak), which is ridicolous.

Black listing cheaters would help a lot preventing them from doing dungeons again.

Massive_Stain · December 2017

Lol First, I can solo random normals on every single one of my 8 dps toons. So I don't mind at all this event, and secondly as I do it on my tanks and healer, I grab a guildie as a dps, to ensure speedy victory.

swirve · December 2017

Massive_Stain wrote: »

Lol First, I can solo random normals on every single one of my 8 dps toons. So I don't mind at all this event, and secondly as I do it on my tanks and healer, I grab a guildie as a dps, to ensure speedy victory.

Im glad for you. @Massive_Stain ... as long as you are alright

Massive_Stain · December 2017

I'm just saying that random normals are easy, and if youre only after the box at the end, do one and stop whining.

swirve · December 2017

Massive_Stain wrote: »

I'm just saying that random normals are easy, and if youre only after the box at the end, do one and stop whining.

Ill refer you to the original post... take your time read it a few times... try and understand it then feel free to reply with an intelligent response

@Massive_Stain

Kel · December 2017

swirve wrote: »

Massive_Stain wrote: »

I'm just saying that random normals are easy, and if youre only after the box at the end, do one and stop whining.

Ill refer you to the original post... take your time read it a few times... try and understand it then feel free to reply with an intelligent response

@Massive_Stain

What's the actual point of the thread if you just insult everyone who disagres with you?

Beardimus · December 2017

On a normal dungeon this is not needed. Anyone can carry a group through easily enough and with no huge loss of time.

If you want Vets, DLC, HM cheevos etc then don't PUG. do it with known players is a better path to happiness. Same with pledges, which mean way less now with Transumtation

duendology · December 2017

jaschacasadiob16_ESO wrote: »

Dungeons should work like veteran trials: after x deaths or y people left, the group should be disbanded. I would also like the option to avoid getting into an half done dungeon. Similarly, I would like to see who I should play with both in dungeons and trials before accepting (if its a random, keep the dungeon hidden, no problem).

Similarly, it would be nice to have a block people option that is independent of the PSN. The option should prevent getting grouped with blocked people. At the moment, blocking people through PSN will get you rouped (but unable to speak), which is ridicolous.

Black listing cheaters would help a lot preventing them from doing dungeons again.

Yes, let's make it painfully exclusive.. and lets crate a "leaderboard" of all those suckers too, right!?

You know why I don't do randoms? Because of this attitude, because I I am 'scared" I'll be in the group with those fancy pancy 690 with the entitled attitude .. . Also because in most cases people just want to rush through them like goddamned speedy gonzales so they get all pissed off if someone stays behind...or worse! committed a sin of not knowing the dungeon and doing it for the first time! For some reason those OLD smart arses assume that EVERYONE knows dungeons by heart..so how do they dare to not play to up my standard right?

Unfadingsilence · December 2017

MakoFore wrote: »

its broken to begin with- and the fact that you can get

A. fungal grotto with 3 cp690's

OR

B. White gold tower with a bunch of level 45 characters is really really rough.

the dungeon finder should give bonuses for helping a team thru a dungeon that have already started- and i agree- less penalties for quitting a group. we re all trying to grind thru this with 10 toons in a limited amount of time- people have rolled extras toons, just for the event, a lot of level 10's etc that aren't geared- why make it more painful for the average player than necessary? give dungeon finder some parameters at least. this event is meant to be a celebration of the dungeon, etc- and we re grateful for the free junk - sure- but its just highlighted how many issues have gone unfixed and unattended for so so long in this game.

It's on normal tho....... if they would let me I would just solo them "if they would let it happen"

swirve · December 2017

Unfadingsilence wrote: »

MakoFore wrote: »

its broken to begin with- and the fact that you can get

A. fungal grotto with 3 cp690's

OR

B. White gold tower with a bunch of level 45 characters is really really rough.

the dungeon finder should give bonuses for helping a team thru a dungeon that have already started- and i agree- less penalties for quitting a group. we re all trying to grind thru this with 10 toons in a limited amount of time- people have rolled extras toons, just for the event, a lot of level 10's etc that aren't geared- why make it more painful for the average player than necessary? give dungeon finder some parameters at least. this event is meant to be a celebration of the dungeon, etc- and we re grateful for the free junk - sure- but its just highlighted how many issues have gone unfixed and unattended for so so long in this game.

It's on normal tho....... if they would let me I would just solo them "if they would let it happen"

You can solo... just enter the dng without a group...

Unfadingsilence · December 2017

swirve wrote: »

Unfadingsilence wrote: »

MakoFore wrote: »

its broken to begin with- and the fact that you can get

A. fungal grotto with 3 cp690's

OR

B. White gold tower with a bunch of level 45 characters is really really rough.

the dungeon finder should give bonuses for helping a team thru a dungeon that have already started- and i agree- less penalties for quitting a group. we re all trying to grind thru this with 10 toons in a limited amount of time- people have rolled extras toons, just for the event, a lot of level 10's etc that aren't geared- why make it more painful for the average player than necessary? give dungeon finder some parameters at least. this event is meant to be a celebration of the dungeon, etc- and we re grateful for the free junk - sure- but its just highlighted how many issues have gone unfixed and unattended for so so long in this game.

It's on normal tho....... if they would let me I would just solo them "if they would let it happen"

You can solo... just enter the dng without a group...

And still get the reward for doing a random dungeon?

Massive_Stain · December 2017

Unfadingsilence wrote: »

swirve wrote: »

Unfadingsilence wrote: »

MakoFore wrote: »

its broken to begin with- and the fact that you can get

A. fungal grotto with 3 cp690's

OR

B. White gold tower with a bunch of level 45 characters is really really rough.

the dungeon finder should give bonuses for helping a team thru a dungeon that have already started- and i agree- less penalties for quitting a group. we re all trying to grind thru this with 10 toons in a limited amount of time- people have rolled extras toons, just for the event, a lot of level 10's etc that aren't geared- why make it more painful for the average player than necessary? give dungeon finder some parameters at least. this event is meant to be a celebration of the dungeon, etc- and we re grateful for the free junk - sure- but its just highlighted how many issues have gone unfixed and unattended for so so long in this game.

It's on normal tho....... if they would let me I would just solo them "if they would let it happen"

You can solo... just enter the dng without a group...

And still get the reward for doing a random dungeon?

This is the point, I know, and I already spoke to that.

ZOS_Ragnar · December 2017

We have removed some posts in this thread that were combative and non-constructive. While it is certainly acceptable to disagree with each other we ask that you keep the discussion on-topic and avoid resorting to personal insults.

jaschacasadiob16_ESO · December 2017

duendology wrote: »

You know why I don't do randoms? Because of this attitude, because I I am 'scared" I'll be in the group with those fancy pancy 690 with the entitled attitude .. . Also because in most cases people just want to rush through them like goddamned speedy gonzales so they get all pissed off if someone stays behind...or worse! committed a sin of not knowing the dungeon and doing it for the first time! For some reason those OLD smart arses assume that EVERYONE knows dungeons by heart..so how do they dare to not play to up my standard right?

If someone runs, I let them run, wait for them to die and then leave. I dont like quickies. And honestly I dont mind if someone is doing the quest or taking is time to do things. As long as its not cheating or absolutely i nthe wrong place (9K dps in CoA2 vet).

You must have had some really bad experience. Learn to leave the group.

Valor · December 2017

And ya know I wish they'd stop queuing me into dungeons that are already done, thereby locking me out of queue for 15 minutes. Like really? Come on.

Davor · December 2017

Mureel wrote: »

Davor wrote: »

Oh, another, "I am better than you" post. This is the problem of MMOs. People like this. Just like I said in the other post, because of people like you, I don't bother doing multiplayer.

We can never practice/train and become better. This is part of the reason why ESO doesn't become a better game. Instead of blaming the developers and Zenimax for making the game, they make it "all about them" instead of helping out people and having fun.

You can go with me anything anytime! I have the most fun when people are clearing things they haven't before and learning new stuff!

Thank you so much for the offer. When I have time playing, I might have to take you up on that offer. Sadly I don't know how any of this works. So I don't know how to add people or friends. I use to play on Xbox, but play on PC now on NA servers. If you play on Xbox I will go back to it so I can try this online friends thing.

I guess I have been playing to many Bethesda single player games, I am very anti social when it comes to online.

A_G_G_R_O · December 2017

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swirve · December 2017

jaschacasadiob16_ESO wrote: »

duendology wrote: »

You know why I don't do randoms? Because of this attitude, because I I am 'scared" I'll be in the group with those fancy pancy 690 with the entitled attitude .. . Also because in most cases people just want to rush through them like goddamned speedy gonzales so they get all pissed off if someone stays behind...or worse! committed a sin of not knowing the dungeon and doing it for the first time! For some reason those OLD smart arses assume that EVERYONE knows dungeons by heart..so how do they dare to not play to up my standard right?

If someone runs, I let them run, wait for them to die and then leave. I dont like quickies. And honestly I dont mind if someone is doing the quest or taking is time to do things. As long as its not cheating or absolutely i nthe wrong place (9K dps in CoA2 vet).

You must have had some really bad experience. Learn to leave the group.

Learn to leave groups and be punished for it... ill ask for kick if its just not realistic on vets and ive had some agree and others demand to be carried...

zaria · December 2017

Had my second failed run today out of 24, level 47 healer in icp, low cp group, fake tank and refused to listen to strategy about the cabbage throwing.

KingMagaw · December 2017

It is a normal dungeon. Any lvl10 can do it easily if your not a light attack scrub. Literally the most mind numbing and boringly easy content i have ever seen.

L2P issue

swirve · December 2017

zaria wrote: »

Had my second failed run today out of 24, level 47 healer in icp, low cp group, fake tank and refused to listen to strategy about the cabbage throwing.

I check to see if the fake tank has all roles selected... see that quite often...

swirve · December 2017

KingMagaw wrote: »

It is a normal dungeon. Any lvl10 can do it easily if your not a light attack scrub. Literally the most mind numbing and boringly easy content i have ever seen.

L2P issue

This thread is full of learn2read issues...

Kel · December 2017

swirve wrote: »

KingMagaw wrote: »

It is a normal dungeon. Any lvl10 can do it easily if your not a light attack scrub. Literally the most mind numbing and boringly easy content i have ever seen.

L2P issue

This thread is full of learn2read issues...

"Please allow us to check group in GF and decline

swirveswirve
December 2 edited December 2 in General ESO Discussion
Its annoying to get a 10+ min queue penalty when I queue as a healer as a healer and then join a group of 3 players looking to be carried...

Fake tanks, massively underlevelled players who are looking for carries and openly expect to be carried (via txtchat)."

What is exactly off topic here to you.
Saying you disagree with being able to pre-quit a group is on topic.
Saying you don't automatically know someone's looking for a carry is on topic.
Saying you don't care about fake tanks is on topic.
In short, just because someone doesn't just agree with you doesn't mean it's off topic. There's nothing in your title or post saying what difficulty of content you're even talking about, therefor on topic. Learn to read, you say. Start with yourself.

zaria · December 2017

Valor wrote: »

And ya know I wish they'd stop queuing me into dungeons that are already done, thereby locking me out of queue for 15 minutes. Like really? Come on.

People who queue for random should be prioritized for filling in run in progress, if you queue for specific dungeon you are likely after pledge or quest so should primarily go to new groups.