Dungeon Finder Broke already

  • VaranisArano
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    Apache_Kid wrote: »
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    T4T2FR34K wrote: »
    That's "fun". Now we see why ZOS wanted a stress test for the dungeon finder.

    Which is the whole point...not so you can make 8 characters and try to exploit their kindness...this is an incentive to test the system, not an entitlement...

    No really, man. Its a stress test, and this is exactly why ZOS did the event. Funny how the stress tests keep breaking things, just like Midyear Mayhem broke the PVP servers.

    This has been happening for months before this event was even teased. The event didn't cause this bug.

    No, but it'll certainly bring enough attention to the bug now that its happening to a large amount of the player base and preventing them from getting rewards. Which is more or less one of the functions of a stress test. It brings out pre-existing bugs happening to large enough numbers of people that ZOS can replicate it, test solutions, and get it fixed.

    Its just going to be frustrating as all get in the meantime.

    It's been frustrating for the last 10 months when this started happening during homestead. That THIS is what is required to bring enough ATTENTION to the problems when there have been multiple threads about them is a joke. I'm sick of the excuse being "we couldn't replicate it" when these things happen every damn time myself and others on Xbox i have spoken to about this queue for a dungeon. If they are having this hard of a time replicating bugs they need to examine their internal server and find a way to get that performance to the rest of us.

    If they needed to do a stress test to fix and pinpoint these issues it should've been done months ago when they were introduced.

    I quite agree. They should have fixed the Dungeon Finder a long time ago (along with a dozen+ other things that need to get fixed.) But ZOS apparently likes showing off how badly their tools are broken before they get around to fixing them. I don't really understand that about ZOS.
  • ZOS_GinaBruno
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    Thanks for letting us know, we're actively looking into this.
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  • VaranisArano
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    Sinolai wrote: »
    My friend just went to cyrodiil (DC), grouped with an EP character. :smiley:

    That's an exploit used to jump queue, probably a bad idea to be using that.
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    Apache_Kid wrote: »
    T4T2FR34K wrote: »
    That's "fun". Now we see why ZOS wanted a stress test for the dungeon finder.

    Which is the whole point...not so you can make 8 characters and try to exploit their kindness...this is an incentive to test the system, not an entitlement...

    It's absolutely hilarious to me that they want to "test" a system that has been broke since homestesd that they refuse to fix. The phantom queues, having to do 1000 ready-checks, and not being able to enter a dungeon because of a false full-instance message have all been happening for months and instead of fixing it they designed an event to make all of us use the broken tool. It's almost insulting. Actually I would say it is.

    It’s been broke waaaaaay before homestead. When i primarily played on PC, correct me if I’m wrong but, the old group finder initially broke just afte the Craglorn update. It worked for some of us but technically the VR character portion was broken but pre VR worked.

    So it’s been three years and it only worked “never” at level 50 which is why the Trial finder was removed and a new activity finder was introduced in place of the old dungeon finder.

    2015 discussion: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/158526/is-the-dungeon-finder-broken-yes-or-no/p1

    They even confirmed this to an extent on a very old ESO Live show when Jason was with them before he left. (I think that was his name)

    LOL this is even better. I wasn't playing back in 2015 but this is amazing. This treatment of the activity finder and the continued issues it faces has turned out to be a case of GROSS NEGLIGENCE on the part of ZoS.
  • ZOS_GinaBruno
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    What server is everyone on that's experiencing one of these issues?
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  • Apache_Kid
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    Apache_Kid wrote: »
    Apache_Kid wrote: »
    T4T2FR34K wrote: »
    That's "fun". Now we see why ZOS wanted a stress test for the dungeon finder.

    Which is the whole point...not so you can make 8 characters and try to exploit their kindness...this is an incentive to test the system, not an entitlement...

    No really, man. Its a stress test, and this is exactly why ZOS did the event. Funny how the stress tests keep breaking things, just like Midyear Mayhem broke the PVP servers.

    This has been happening for months before this event was even teased. The event didn't cause this bug.

    No, but it'll certainly bring enough attention to the bug now that its happening to a large amount of the player base and preventing them from getting rewards. Which is more or less one of the functions of a stress test. It brings out pre-existing bugs happening to large enough numbers of people that ZOS can replicate it, test solutions, and get it fixed.

    Its just going to be frustrating as all get in the meantime.

    It's been frustrating for the last 10 months when this started happening during homestead. That THIS is what is required to bring enough ATTENTION to the problems when there have been multiple threads about them is a joke. I'm sick of the excuse being "we couldn't replicate it" when these things happen every damn time myself and others on Xbox i have spoken to about this queue for a dungeon. If they are having this hard of a time replicating bugs they need to examine their internal server and find a way to get that performance to the rest of us.

    If they needed to do a stress test to fix and pinpoint these issues it should've been done months ago when they were introduced.

    I quite agree. They should have fixed the Dungeon Finder a long time ago (along with a dozen+ other things that need to get fixed.) But ZOS apparently likes showing off how badly their tools are broken before they get around to fixing them. I don't really understand that about ZOS.

    Yes very strange behavior indeed.
  • xSkullfox
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    What server is everyone on that's experiencing one of these issues?

    EU, queued as HEALER for 24 min.
    Groupfinder:
    The worst part is when it finally puts you in a group, your healer turns into a werewolf, your tank has 14k HP and the dps is heavy armor, using a restro staff and a two handed sword on the backbar. Then comes the 15 minute penalty before the cycle starts anew.

    Rulz of Morrowind:
    • The first rule of Morrowind is: You do not talk about Morrowind.
    • The second rule of Morrowind is: You do not talk about Morrowind.
    • Third rule of Morrowind: Someone yells NDA stuff, uploads images, streams, the game is over.
    • Fourth rule: only invited players can test.
    • Fifth rule: one invite at a time, fellas.
    • Sixth rule: crying or bashing on pts.
    • Seventh rule: NDA will go on as long as they have to.
    • And the eighth and final rule: If this is your first invite at Morrowind, you have to play.
  • xenowarrior92eb17_ESO
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    idk what you people are talking about...is working just fine...every time I must grp for raids or dungeons I get failed to join...so I spam it until we get grped and it works...also worked now so that's how it works...is normal so I don't know what you guys talking about.
  • Dread_Viking
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    What server is everyone on that's experiencing one of these issues?

    Pc Eu cant group or leave the finder
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  • anamea82
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    Nice - PC Eu group finder is broken, there is going to be maintenance -say 2 days OF THE EVENT duration ... Solve it
    Edited by anamea82 on November 30, 2017 5:40PM
  • gepe87
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    What server is everyone on that's experiencing one of these issues?

    PC EU. Can't leave group, even going to Cyrodiil. Also can't leave queue with another character (tried to change an already queue from veteran to normal random)
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  • Loc2262
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    I'm on PC-EU and am experiencing the following issues:

    - Pre-made group can't start dungeon, "xxx declined invite" repeatedly
    - Queuing solo does not yield a group, waited for 5 minutes as tank.
    - Cannot leave dungeon finder, no matter if solo or grouped. Even quitting and restarting the game does not help.
    - Cannot leave group. Only relogging helps.

    I wonder if it was such a good idea to tie an event to the group finder, which has been broken to some extend for months/years. The current rush of players certainly multiplied the existing problems.
    Edited by Loc2262 on November 30, 2017 4:17PM
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    PC EU.
  • ZOS_GinaBruno
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    Ok, thanks all. We're also seeing issues on PC EU and are on it.
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  • MajesticHaruki
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    PC EU, Can't join a group through dungeon finder, cant enter a group via invite, can't leave a group. HELPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP SOMEBODY GET ME OUT OF THIS! QQ
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  • Publius_Scipio
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    Sinolai wrote: »
    My friend just went to cyrodiil (DC), grouped with an EP character. :smiley:

    Spies! Traitors!
  • alu-fleurb16_ESO
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    What server is everyone on that's experiencing one of these issues?

    PC EU server

    building a group = impossible
    joining the group finder tool = impossible

    really great event... really *thumbs up*
  • HuawaSepp
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    PC EU
    PTS-EU
  • filip175
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    Can't invite people to group, can't leave group, can't cancel queue, getting "Someone declined" constantly.
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    Back at it again.
  • VaranisArano
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    Apache_Kid wrote: »
    Apache_Kid wrote: »
    Apache_Kid wrote: »
    T4T2FR34K wrote: »
    That's "fun". Now we see why ZOS wanted a stress test for the dungeon finder.

    Which is the whole point...not so you can make 8 characters and try to exploit their kindness...this is an incentive to test the system, not an entitlement...

    No really, man. Its a stress test, and this is exactly why ZOS did the event. Funny how the stress tests keep breaking things, just like Midyear Mayhem broke the PVP servers.

    This has been happening for months before this event was even teased. The event didn't cause this bug.

    No, but it'll certainly bring enough attention to the bug now that its happening to a large amount of the player base and preventing them from getting rewards. Which is more or less one of the functions of a stress test. It brings out pre-existing bugs happening to large enough numbers of people that ZOS can replicate it, test solutions, and get it fixed.

    Its just going to be frustrating as all get in the meantime.

    It's been frustrating for the last 10 months when this started happening during homestead. That THIS is what is required to bring enough ATTENTION to the problems when there have been multiple threads about them is a joke. I'm sick of the excuse being "we couldn't replicate it" when these things happen every damn time myself and others on Xbox i have spoken to about this queue for a dungeon. If they are having this hard of a time replicating bugs they need to examine their internal server and find a way to get that performance to the rest of us.

    If they needed to do a stress test to fix and pinpoint these issues it should've been done months ago when they were introduced.

    I quite agree. They should have fixed the Dungeon Finder a long time ago (along with a dozen+ other things that need to get fixed.) But ZOS apparently likes showing off how badly their tools are broken before they get around to fixing them. I don't really understand that about ZOS.

    Yes very strange behavior indeed.

    I've worked in IT so I have a feeling it comes down to needing a bunch of data on the problems best gotten by a stress test with a ton of players so they have the best data to replicate the bug(s) and figure out what's causing it to not work. Its one thing to tease out a malfunction when it happens to a few players and its another thing when its happening to large amounts of players. The fact that they haven't yet figured out the problem and fixed it is an indication that they couldn't get it to happen or figure out the issue from random occurrences. Which is to say that I'd hope they were monitoring what happened live when it all went down.

    But on the other hand, I've also worked in IT and if you do something that's going to let the system break, you forewarn people or expect people to get angry. Its the difference between "Hey, guys, we have to test the network to fix that bug that's been annoying you so don't worry if you can't connect to the network for a while" and "Sorry, we were testing and now the network's down." One of those is responsible notification of people relying on your network. The other one gets you swamped with calls saying "The network is down, the network is down!"

    Guess which option ZOS picked?
  • Youmee
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    Loc2262 wrote: »
    I'm on PC-EU and am experiencing the following issues:

    - Pre-made group can't start dungeon, "xxx declined invite" repeatedly
    - Queuing solo does not yield a group, waited for 5 minutes as tank.
    - Cannot leave dungeon finder, no matter if solo or grouped. Even quitting and restarting the game does not help.
    - Cannot leave group. Only relogging helps.

    @Youmee
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    absolutely identical problems.

    Got into the dungeon after about 20 minutes of constantly hitting "READY" button.

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    ICH VERLANGE KOMPENSATION!
  • mouton
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    Sometimes: impossible to join the group, simply when accepting an invite to join.
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    why does something like this happen at every event, cant soz learn?
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  • VaranisArano
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    actosh wrote: »
    ICH VERLANGE KOMPENSATION!

    Regretfully, not going to happen. You signed the Terms of Service.

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  • Aionna
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    Loc2262 wrote: »
    I'm on PC-EU and am experiencing the following issues:

    - Pre-made group can't start dungeon, "xxx declined invite" repeatedly
    - Queuing solo does not yield a group, waited for 5 minutes as tank.
    - Cannot leave dungeon finder, no matter if solo or grouped. Even quitting and restarting the game does not help.
    - Cannot leave group. Only relogging helps.

    I wonder if it was such a good idea to tie an event to the group finder, which has been broken to some extend for months/years. The current rush of players certainly multiplied the existing problems.

    Same except the last one , I can't leave group even if I relog .

    Edit: Also lagging
    Edited by Aionna on November 30, 2017 4:37PM
  • Oreyn_Bearclaw
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    Event is going well I see...

    (pretty sure that's about the forth time I have had the opportunity to write the same sarcastic post)
  • Highstake
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    The programmer's wife tells him:

    - Run to the store and pick up a loaf of bread; if they have eggs, get a dozen.

    The programmer comes home with 12 loaves of bread...

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    1. Cant inv people.
    2. Cant leave group or at least its not faster than 2-3 minutes
    3. Cant disband group
    4. Hard and continuous lag on PC/EU
    Edited by Highstake on November 30, 2017 4:30PM
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