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Which gender do you choose to play in-game and why?
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Strider__Roshin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭MaleYetiSpaghetti wrote: »Female because I'm not a misogynist.
Yes because if you don't play as your opposite sex you're a bad person.4 -
Jade1986✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Female
That does look pretty solid! It has a cold steel look to it
Exactly what I was goin for.
. lots of snowballs flying at all times. xD
Also your comment made me search cold steel and I found a site that makes amazing swords! xD
https://cold-steel.de/Shop/Swords-and-Daggers/European-Swords:::487_501_503.htmlEdited by Jade1986 on November 28, 2017 10:48PM0 -
DocFrost72✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Both
I took five seconds to Google because I was curious.
Gender:
"the state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones)."
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/gender
I'm not advocating any side, but it could be that the quoted poster didn't understand or thought the OP meant something else.4 -
Strider__Roshin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭MaleDocFrost72 wrote: »
I took five seconds to Google because I was curious.
Gender:
"the state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones)."
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/gender
I'm not advocating any side, but it could be that the quoted poster didn't understand or thought the OP meant something else.
And this is why politics should stay out of science. The word "gender" only became a thing in the 20th century because the word "sex" became the word used for mating. Then second wave feminists redefined gender in their writings; redefining it as your self identity of sex.
Gender = Sex
If you want to tell yourself otherwise because it makes you feel like a good person go ahead, but you're disillusioning yourself.8 -
DocFrost72✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭BothDocFrost72 wrote: »
I took five seconds to Google because I was curious.
Gender:
"the state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones)."
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/gender
I'm not advocating any side, but it could be that the quoted poster didn't understand or thought the OP meant something else.
And this is why politics should stay out of science. The word "gender" only became a thing in the 20th century because the word "sex" became the word used for mating. Then second wave feminists redefined gender in their writings; redefining it as your self identity of sex.
Gender = Sex
If you want to tell yourself otherwise because it makes you feel like a good person go ahead, but you're disillusioning yourself.
You don't know how to read apparently. I'll bold it this time.
"I'm not advocating any side, but it could be that the quoted poster didn't understand or thought the OP meant something else."
I'm just making sure you understand this one more time: words can change, as you pointed out. I'll take what you said as true despite there being no source, but even the what if this person only knows the contemporary meaning? Context matters, and the post I made didn't have a political statement to be seen inside it. Simply trying to highlight the problem you yourself underlined: some folks may read that differently.
Edit: got curious and went back to google, found this."But in fact the OED’s earliest illustrative quotation for the relevant sense (‘the state of being male or female as expressed by social or cultural distinctions and differences, rather than biological ones’) comes from an article published in 1945 in an academic psychology journal:
in the grade school years, too, gender (which is the socialised obverse of sex) is a fixed line of demarcation, the qualifying terms being ‘feminine’ and ‘masculine’.
The same journal is the source of the next quotation [1], dated 1950:
it informs the reader upon ‘gender’ as well as ‘sex’, upon masculine and feminine roles as well as upon male and female and their reproductive functions.
As these examples illustrate, the meaning of ‘gender’ which depends on an explicit or implicit contrast with biological sex was first used by academics in social science disciplines like anthropology, sociology and psychology. The quotations I’ve reproduced suggest that this usage was initially confined to a fairly narrow group of specialists: even when writing for their fellow-academics, the authors evidently didn’t expect all readers to be familiar with it (hence the parenthesis in the first example and the inverted commas in the second)."
https://debuk.wordpress.com/2016/12/15/a-brief-history-of-gender/
So your theory wasn't even correct. Anthropologists first seperate the two in the 40s and 50s.
Tbf, I didn't know any of this till tonight. Kinda interesting.Edited by DocFrost72 on November 28, 2017 11:35PM4 -
badmojo✭✭✭✭✭
✭BothDocFrost72 wrote: »DocFrost72 wrote: »
I took five seconds to Google because I was curious.
Gender:
"the state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones)."
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/gender
I'm not advocating any side, but it could be that the quoted poster didn't understand or thought the OP meant something else.
And this is why politics should stay out of science. The word "gender" only became a thing in the 20th century because the word "sex" became the word used for mating. Then second wave feminists redefined gender in their writings; redefining it as your self identity of sex.
Gender = Sex
If you want to tell yourself otherwise because it makes you feel like a good person go ahead, but you're disillusioning yourself.
You don't know how to read apparently. I'll bold it this time.
"I'm not advocating any side, but it could be that the quoted poster didn't understand or thought the OP meant something else."
I'm just making sure you understand this one more time: words can change, as you pointed out. I'll take what you said as true despite there being no source, but even the what if this person only knows the contemporary meaning? Context matters, and the post I made didn't have a political statement to be seen inside it. Simply trying to highlight the problem you yourself underlined: some folks may read that differently.
The post you quoted was political. They didnt misunderstand the wording of the poll, they just wanted to virtue signal their stance on identity politics.[DC/NA]3 -
Strider__Roshin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭MaleDocFrost72 wrote: »DocFrost72 wrote: »
I took five seconds to Google because I was curious.
Gender:
"the state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones)."
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/gender
I'm not advocating any side, but it could be that the quoted poster didn't understand or thought the OP meant something else.
And this is why politics should stay out of science. The word "gender" only became a thing in the 20th century because the word "sex" became the word used for mating. Then second wave feminists redefined gender in their writings; redefining it as your self identity of sex.
Gender = Sex
If you want to tell yourself otherwise because it makes you feel like a good person go ahead, but you're disillusioning yourself.
You don't know how to read apparently. I'll bold it this time.
"I'm not advocating any side, but it could be that the quoted poster didn't understand or thought the OP meant something else."
I'm just making sure you understand this one more time: words can change, as you pointed out. I'll take what you said as true despite there being no source, but even the what if this person only knows the contemporary meaning? Context matters, and the post I made didn't have a political statement to be seen inside it. Simply trying to highlight the problem you yourself underlined: some folks may read that differently.
My response to you was more so done out of frustration, and for clarification for others to read. I know you aren't taking a stance, and I don't want you to think that I was attacking you or trying to debate you. My apologies, text does a poor job communicating at times.1 -
XxBradeyxX✭✭✭MaleI always seem to make a few of each. I also try to make every character I have look as rediculous as possible0 -
DocFrost72✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭BothDocFrost72 wrote: »DocFrost72 wrote: »
I took five seconds to Google because I was curious.
Gender:
"the state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones)."
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/gender
I'm not advocating any side, but it could be that the quoted poster didn't understand or thought the OP meant something else.
And this is why politics should stay out of science. The word "gender" only became a thing in the 20th century because the word "sex" became the word used for mating. Then second wave feminists redefined gender in their writings; redefining it as your self identity of sex.
Gender = Sex
If you want to tell yourself otherwise because it makes you feel like a good person go ahead, but you're disillusioning yourself.
You don't know how to read apparently. I'll bold it this time.
"I'm not advocating any side, but it could be that the quoted poster didn't understand or thought the OP meant something else."
I'm just making sure you understand this one more time: words can change, as you pointed out. I'll take what you said as true despite there being no source, but even the what if this person only knows the contemporary meaning? Context matters, and the post I made didn't have a political statement to be seen inside it. Simply trying to highlight the problem you yourself underlined: some folks may read that differently.
My response to you was more so done out of frustration, and for clarification for others to read. I know you aren't taking a stance, and I don't want you to think that I was attacking you or trying to debate you. My apologies, text does a poor job communicating at times.
No worries, and I was pretty rude with the first line. Teaches me to assume. Sorry mate.0 -
xenowarrior92eb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭FemaleIf I have to spend 15 hours a day looking at a character back...it rather be a female curvy 4$$ rather than a dude butt.0 -
Stania✭✭✭✭✭MaleYetiSpaghetti wrote: »Female because I'm not a misogynist.
Yes because if you don't play as your opposite sex you're a bad person.
We're bad persons for playing as those rapists, oppressors and patriarchy-advocates called male characters.PC NA server
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My characters:
<List of characters that no one cares to know with their classes and roles>
"Inspirational quote"2 -
bareheiny✭✭✭✭✭FemaleI'm not looking to replicate myself ingame, and for one reason or another, I find female characters more aesthetically pleasing.
My DCUO mains were female...my ESO mains are female...odds are pretty good that my mains will be female in whatever MMO I eventually move onto.0 -
Jade1986✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭FemaleDocFrost72 wrote: »DocFrost72 wrote: »
I took five seconds to Google because I was curious.
Gender:
"the state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones)."
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/gender
I'm not advocating any side, but it could be that the quoted poster didn't understand or thought the OP meant something else.
And this is why politics should stay out of science. The word "gender" only became a thing in the 20th century because the word "sex" became the word used for mating. Then second wave feminists redefined gender in their writings; redefining it as your self identity of sex.
Gender = Sex
If you want to tell yourself otherwise because it makes you feel like a good person go ahead, but you're disillusioning yourself.
You don't know how to read apparently. I'll bold it this time.
"I'm not advocating any side, but it could be that the quoted poster didn't understand or thought the OP meant something else."
I'm just making sure you understand this one more time: words can change, as you pointed out. I'll take what you said as true despite there being no source, but even the what if this person only knows the contemporary meaning? Context matters, and the post I made didn't have a political statement to be seen inside it. Simply trying to highlight the problem you yourself underlined: some folks may read that differently.
The post you quoted was political. They didnt misunderstand the wording of the poll, they just wanted to virtue signal their stance on identity politics.
Peoples identity are not politics. If you choose to make them into that it us on you.
Also, people calling us names is q very good way to get banned from the forums for hate speech as the moderators have already said.3 -
ArchMikem✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭FemaleHonestly who here just based their choice on wanting to enjoy what they're looking at while they play?
I play girls, cause girls are pretty. No politics. No confounding reasoning. Women are enjoyable to look at. Just like I'm sure Men are enjoyable to look at for many other people. CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA One Star General - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
Quest Objective: OMG Go Talk To That Kitty!1 -
Naughty_Ryder✭✭✭FemaleHonestly who here just based their choice on wanting to enjoy what they're looking at while they play?
I play girls, cause girls are pretty. No politics. No confounding reasoning. Women are enjoyable to look at. Just like I'm sure Men are enjoyable to look at for many other people.
I see where you’re going with this...
Fairies are invisible and inaudible like angels. But their magic sparkles in nature.
- I solemnly swear that I am up to no good.0 -
LadyAstrum✭✭✭✭✭
✭FemaleI play females....I can't play males. I find myself feeling bored. I couldn't play Witcher for this reason. I guess I project myself partially onto my character, and although I was a bit of a tomboy as a child, I grew up to be feminine and that's how I like my characters to be: powerful, but strong in their feminine energy.~ "You think me brutish? How do you imagine I view you?" - Molag Bal #misunderstood ~0 -
BladedMischief✭✭✭BothBoth, mainly female though. I can never get male characters just right ^_^"~We're a community of adventurers. No matter which banner we fight under~0 -
Aleraon✭✭✭✭Both because either gender can do the same job just as well, although I do find the females do look better in the appropriate costumes(EU/AD) CP501 Razum-dah - Khajiiti Templar Healer
(EU/AD) CP501 J'Kara Silverclaw - Khajiiti Dragonknight tank
(EU/AD) CP501 Rajhiin - Khajiiti stamina Nightblade
(EU/AD) CP501 Draven Corvillian - Breton magicka Nightblade
(EU/AD) CP501 Sinderian Nightflame - High Elf magicka sorcerer
(EU/AD) CP501 J'zargo Silverclaw - Khajiit stamina Templar
(EU/AD) CP501 Ariella Nightshade - High Elf Magicka Nightblade
(EU/AD) CP501 Ri'shada - Khajiit Stamina Sorcerer
(EU/AD) LVL29 Valeon Indoril - Dark Elf Magicka Dragonknight
*The Queen stole this one's moonsugar candies lol*0 -
Vhozek✭✭✭✭✭
✭BothBoth depending on what I create, but mostly female. I like female names and often find myself using meme names for males, so I make it a bit more immersive by trying unique builds for fun and semi-roleplay purposes. And by that I mean how I grab Healing Ritual for monks and holy classes because of the praying animation. I don't actually full on roleplay.𝗡𝗼𝘁 𝘀𝗼𝗿𝗿𝘆, 𝗺𝗼𝗱𝘀. 𝗙𝗿𝗲𝗲 𝗕𝗶𝗿𝗱 𝘄𝗮𝘀 𝗽𝗹𝗮𝘆𝗶𝗻𝗴.0 -
Ratzkifal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭FemaleI looked into myself again and I guess I have the same reasons as some of the other posters have.
I try to play characters that are not like me, because pretending to be someone else is fun. That's why my characters end up being female.
Also, about the gender discussion. If I were to treat gender =/= sex as true, are the majority of my characters masculine for wearing heavy armor, working out and rescuing the damsel in distress? (Please be gentle as the whole topic is puzzling to me)Edited by Ratzkifal on November 29, 2017 11:40AMThis Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.0 -
badmojo✭✭✭✭✭
✭BothDocFrost72 wrote: »DocFrost72 wrote: »
I took five seconds to Google because I was curious.
Gender:
"the state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones)."
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/gender
I'm not advocating any side, but it could be that the quoted poster didn't understand or thought the OP meant something else.
And this is why politics should stay out of science. The word "gender" only became a thing in the 20th century because the word "sex" became the word used for mating. Then second wave feminists redefined gender in their writings; redefining it as your self identity of sex.
Gender = Sex
If you want to tell yourself otherwise because it makes you feel like a good person go ahead, but you're disillusioning yourself.
You don't know how to read apparently. I'll bold it this time.
"I'm not advocating any side, but it could be that the quoted poster didn't understand or thought the OP meant something else."
I'm just making sure you understand this one more time: words can change, as you pointed out. I'll take what you said as true despite there being no source, but even the what if this person only knows the contemporary meaning? Context matters, and the post I made didn't have a political statement to be seen inside it. Simply trying to highlight the problem you yourself underlined: some folks may read that differently.
The post you quoted was political. They didnt misunderstand the wording of the poll, they just wanted to virtue signal their stance on identity politics.
Peoples identity are not politics. If you choose to make them into that it us on you.
Also, people calling us names is q very good way to get banned from the forums for hate speech as the moderators have already said.
Who is calling anyone names? Who's identity was singled out?
Politics was brought into this thread by the person steering the discussion towards the idea that gender and sex are not the same. That topic was brought up in a poll asking about which of the two choices of character gender we picked in a video game. Gender in this game is not chosen on a slider, or spectrum, there is no third option for non-binary. You simply get a choice of male or female, because its a video game and not real life.
These forums are not the place for a debate on indentity politics, mainly because people will say something like "gender =/= sex" and then anyone who disagreed and posted their opinion would be censored for "hate speech". So please leave those discussions for places where we can exercise freedom of speech. Or rather, a place where people cant hide their ideology behind the threat of censorship.[DC/NA]3 -
Jade1986✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭FemaleDocFrost72 wrote: »DocFrost72 wrote: »
I took five seconds to Google because I was curious.
Gender:
"the state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones)."
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/gender
I'm not advocating any side, but it could be that the quoted poster didn't understand or thought the OP meant something else.
And this is why politics should stay out of science. The word "gender" only became a thing in the 20th century because the word "sex" became the word used for mating. Then second wave feminists redefined gender in their writings; redefining it as your self identity of sex.
Gender = Sex
If you want to tell yourself otherwise because it makes you feel like a good person go ahead, but you're disillusioning yourself.
You don't know how to read apparently. I'll bold it this time.
"I'm not advocating any side, but it could be that the quoted poster didn't understand or thought the OP meant something else."
I'm just making sure you understand this one more time: words can change, as you pointed out. I'll take what you said as true despite there being no source, but even the what if this person only knows the contemporary meaning? Context matters, and the post I made didn't have a political statement to be seen inside it. Simply trying to highlight the problem you yourself underlined: some folks may read that differently.
The post you quoted was political. They didnt misunderstand the wording of the poll, they just wanted to virtue signal their stance on identity politics.
Peoples identity are not politics. If you choose to make them into that it us on you.
Also, people calling us names is q very good way to get banned from the forums for hate speech as the moderators have already said.
Who is calling anyone names? Who's identity was singled out?
Politics was brought into this thread by the person steering the discussion towards the idea that gender and sex are not the same. That topic was brought up in a poll asking about which of the two choices of character gender we picked in a video game. Gender in this game is not chosen on a slider, or spectrum, there is no third option for non-binary. You simply get a choice of male or female, because its a video game and not real life.
These forums are not the place for a debate on indentity politics, mainly because people will say something like "gender =/= sex" and then anyone who disagreed and posted their opinion would be censored for "hate speech". So please leave those discussions for places where we can exercise freedom of speech. Or rather, a place where people cant hide their ideology behind the threat of censorship.
Saying gender =/= sex is not political, it is a widely accepted medical, scientific, and psychological fact. If you think that is political, again that is on you. Calling us delusional and sick is an opinion, you are right, but saying things of that nature is indeed hate speech. And I am happy the forum rules state that.7 -
badmojo✭✭✭✭✭
✭BothDocFrost72 wrote: »DocFrost72 wrote: »
I took five seconds to Google because I was curious.
Gender:
"the state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones)."
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/gender
I'm not advocating any side, but it could be that the quoted poster didn't understand or thought the OP meant something else.
And this is why politics should stay out of science. The word "gender" only became a thing in the 20th century because the word "sex" became the word used for mating. Then second wave feminists redefined gender in their writings; redefining it as your self identity of sex.
Gender = Sex
If you want to tell yourself otherwise because it makes you feel like a good person go ahead, but you're disillusioning yourself.
You don't know how to read apparently. I'll bold it this time.
"I'm not advocating any side, but it could be that the quoted poster didn't understand or thought the OP meant something else."
I'm just making sure you understand this one more time: words can change, as you pointed out. I'll take what you said as true despite there being no source, but even the what if this person only knows the contemporary meaning? Context matters, and the post I made didn't have a political statement to be seen inside it. Simply trying to highlight the problem you yourself underlined: some folks may read that differently.
The post you quoted was political. They didnt misunderstand the wording of the poll, they just wanted to virtue signal their stance on identity politics.
Peoples identity are not politics. If you choose to make them into that it us on you.
Also, people calling us names is q very good way to get banned from the forums for hate speech as the moderators have already said.
Who is calling anyone names? Who's identity was singled out?
Politics was brought into this thread by the person steering the discussion towards the idea that gender and sex are not the same. That topic was brought up in a poll asking about which of the two choices of character gender we picked in a video game. Gender in this game is not chosen on a slider, or spectrum, there is no third option for non-binary. You simply get a choice of male or female, because its a video game and not real life.
These forums are not the place for a debate on indentity politics, mainly because people will say something like "gender =/= sex" and then anyone who disagreed and posted their opinion would be censored for "hate speech". So please leave those discussions for places where we can exercise freedom of speech. Or rather, a place where people cant hide their ideology behind the threat of censorship.
Saying gender =/= sex is not political, it is a widely accepted medical, scientific, and psychological fact. If you think that is political, again that is on you. Calling us delusional and sick is an opinion, you are right, but saying things of that nature is indeed hate speech. And I am happy the forum rules state that.
When did I call anyone delusional or sick? In fact I have gone out of my way to avoid bringing up my beliefs because this is not the place for those debates. Please don't put words in my mouth simply because I won't accept an opinion as fact.[DC/NA]1
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