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Speed-Buff Bug

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Do we still talk about it? That in 50% of the cases the Speed-Buff on horse isnt usable. Char makes the animation but breakes it. go down, mount again and use Speed Buff.

When does ZOS intend to fix it? Will it be the next chapter for 70€. Purchase now the awesome Speedbuff-Fix and get a superduper mount extra!
How long is this bug ingame already? A year? I cant think of any other really basic gameplay bug atm for me. It annoys every day the 4letters out of me... every day...every day...over and over again. :s

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"I have too admit. People leading trade guilds in this game are quite stupid. Not stupid like fools, but stupid like leaders.
They can only bla-bla and waste gold on feeding their ego. I am disappointed."

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  • VaranisArano
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    Are you talking about Rapid Maneuvers? I'll be honest, I don't actually know what you mean by the speed-buff not working, so please clarify. I'll give some situations that it could be, but for more help, you need to be more detailed. What are you doing? What is the problem? What's not working the way you expect it to?

    There's a couple of factors that might be at play.
    • ZOS did cap speed a while back. I'm doubt that's the issue, but its something to consider.
    • ZOS does seem to have recently lowered the speed increase gained by sprinting. Its noticeable but not extreme, even at 60 mount speed.
    • There is a difference between tapping the sprint button and holding the sprint button. Tapping gets you a faster burst of initial speed and drains more stamina. Holding the sprint button gets you a slightly lower speed that uses less stamina.
    • Cyrodiil especially has a ton of what my raid calls "gopher holes", little areas on the terrain that catch and slow down mounts. It apparently has to do with the way various objects are coded and they weren't properly coded for riding, so this probably isn't getting fixed.
    • If you are using the addon Assisted Rapid Riding on PC, this takes Rapid Maneuver off your bar after use, meaning that you'll probably dismount yourself if you hit the skill it replaced it with.
    • Finally, if you are in a group riding, using the Retreating Maneuver morph, and someone else is using the Charging Maneuver morph, Charging Maneuvers will override Retreating Maneuvers and strip off the Retreating benefits and remaining time. So if you are in a group, make sure everyone is using the same morph of Rapid Maneuvers.
    Edited by VaranisArano on November 26, 2017 1:29PM
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    is this a joke? m(
    What are you doing? What is the problem? What's not working the way you expect it to?
    Char makes the animation but breakes it. go down, mount again and use Speed Buff.

    I am sure you were at school and you learned reading? did u really write that long text to troll me?


    Edited by Dont_do_drugs on November 26, 2017 2:24PM

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    "I have too admit. People leading trade guilds in this game are quite stupid. Not stupid like fools, but stupid like leaders.
    They can only bla-bla and waste gold on feeding their ego. I am disappointed."

    Egal, wie gut du Schach spielst, die Taube wird alle Figuren umwerfen, auf das Brett kacken und herumstolzieren, als hätte sie gewonnen.

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  • VaranisArano
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    No, I'm neither joking, nor trolling. I'm trying to get more information because I've never seen anything like your problem if it wasn't something in the known problems I listed. Replicating your problem is the first step to fixing it and I need more info about what your problem is.

    I'm on PC/NA. When I use Rapid Maneuvers (is that what you mean by speed buff?), I'm on my mount, cast the skill from stamina and I get the buff. I see the effect on my character and I see the buff on the in-game buff tracker. Now, when I start running, depending on location there may be a slow start due to those texture issues I mentioned but I quickly get up to speed as I keep moving. There is, as I mentioned a difference between tapping and holding the sprint button. I use Rapid Maneuvers regularly in PVP, and have not ever seen an issue where I have to dismount and cast it again in order to Rapid Maneuvers to work. Nor has that happened to people in my PVP raid.

    I have never had an issue where I couldn't cast Rapid Maneuvers - unless I had insufficient stamina to cast it.

    So either you are seeing something different happen, in which case you need to provide more details (including clarifying exactly which "speed buff" you are talking about), or you need to explain more clearly what you are seeing so it can be replicated. I've worked tech support and the first thing you have to do to fix a problem is replicate it.

    So again, because replicating your problem is the first step to fixing it and everyone in tech support will tell you that the more information the better your chance of getting it addressed:
    What "speed buff" are you using?
    When cast, assuming Rapid Maneuvers, are you seeing the buff active on your character and the in-game buff display. Your character tab should show active buffs.
    If the skill is not going off and there is no buff, what happened as it didn't go off? Did one of your attribute bars flash? Were you sitting still or riding? Is the skill greyed out?
    Since it is apparently working after you dismount and remount, what changed? Did you get more resources back? Is the skill no longer greyed out?
    If it is showing as active, is it just not working?
    If it is showing as active, is it working but not as well as you want?

    Again, I'm trying to help because the only time I haven't had Rapid Maneuvers work for me was when I had insufficient stamina. If this is as persistent a bug as you say, its worth explaining in full so that ZOS' developers will have the best chance of replicating it.
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    So either you are seeing something different happen, in which case you need to provide more details (including clarifying exactly which "speed buff" you are talking about), or you need to explain more clearly what you are seeing so it can be replicated. I've worked tech support and the first thing you have to do to fix a problem is replicate it.
    Char makes the animation but breakes it. go down, mount again and use Speed Buff.

    Again: I mount up, want to use speed buff rapid maneuver which else (!!!) - i have enough stamina(!!!) - it doesnt get casted. the char makes animation but breaks it, its activated. i also dont have the option activated, that i couldnt attack friendly npc. I remember the bug was in discussion a longer time ago, but i never heard of a fix and also i have that problem on different chars and different accounts.

    Here found another thread... and wil lread it now.
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/345021/rapid-maneuver-dont-work-on-horse
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/de/discussion/243474/bug-mount-my-mount-and-can-not-use-rapid-maneuver
    Edited by Dont_do_drugs on November 26, 2017 3:06PM

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    "I have too admit. People leading trade guilds in this game are quite stupid. Not stupid like fools, but stupid like leaders.
    They can only bla-bla and waste gold on feeding their ego. I am disappointed."

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  • firedrgn
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    Hmm i don't have any problems with rapid maneuver. I ride like the wind. I don't use a horse tho. Try a different mount maybe.?
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    Sounds like you are hitting the wrong bar. That's exactly what happens if you hit a skill instead of rapid maneuver. Maybe juat maybe your hitting skill then bar swapping and didn't realize it. I only say because I do this sometimes when I think I'm on then bar with rapid and i am not.
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    firedrgn wrote: »
    Sounds like you are hitting the wrong bar. That's exactly what happens if you hit a skill instead of rapid maneuver. Maybe juat maybe your hitting skill then bar swapping and didn't realize it. I only say because I do this sometimes when I think I'm on then bar with rapid and i am not.

    No I am not hitting a wrong bar, i have eyes in my head to see which bar is activated and i can see, which skills are usable.

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    "I have too admit. People leading trade guilds in this game are quite stupid. Not stupid like fools, but stupid like leaders.
    They can only bla-bla and waste gold on feeding their ego. I am disappointed."

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  • ak_pvp
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    Don't be snarky, the way you phrased it was barely legible.

    I have the same bug though, for quite a while too. When trying to use rapid maneuvers only half the animation goes of, but no stamina isn't consumed and the buff isn't given. As the OP said, you have to dismount and remount again for it to work.
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    ak_pvp wrote: »
    Don't be snarky, the way you phrased it was barely legible.

    I have the same bug though, for quite a while too. When trying to use rapid maneuvers only half the animation goes of, but no stamina isn't consumed and the buff isn't given. As the OP said, you have to dismount and remount again for it to work.

    Interesting! I've never seen this on PC/NA myself, nor heard of it in my Cyrodiil raid group, so nailing down the cause of the problem is hard for me.


    Also, OP, thanks you for the extra links.
    "Here found another thread... and wil lread it now."
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/345021/rapid-maneuver-dont-work-on-horse
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/de/discussion/243474/bug-mount-my-mount-and-can-not-use-rapid-maneuver

    They were interesting and had some workarounds, though apparently no solutions. I hope this gets fixed for you soon!
    Edited by VaranisArano on November 26, 2017 7:17PM
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    ak_pvp wrote: »
    Don't be snarky, the way you phrased it was barely legible.

    I have the same bug though, for quite a while too. When trying to use rapid maneuvers only half the animation goes of, but no stamina isn't consumed and the buff isn't given. As the OP said, you have to dismount and remount again for it to work.

    Interesting! I've never seen this on PC/NA myself, nor heard of it in my Cyrodiil raid group, so nailing down the cause of the problem is hard for me.


    Also, OP, thanks you for the extra links.
    "Here found another thread... and wil lread it now."
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/345021/rapid-maneuver-dont-work-on-horse
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/de/discussion/243474/bug-mount-my-mount-and-can-not-use-rapid-maneuver

    They were interesting and had some workarounds, though apparently no solutions. I hope this gets fixed for you soon!

    I dont know wether it happens in Cyrodiil as well, i also never recognized it as example in Hel Ra, but in all questing zones - i recognize it also that hard, since i am making crafting dailies every day and ride to the bank back to do it fast, mounting up - but also - if someone again starts thinking, its maybe because of the friendly-npc-lock - also as exmaple in wrothgars wilderness. this bug is already that old, it gets grey hair. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    "I have too admit. People leading trade guilds in this game are quite stupid. Not stupid like fools, but stupid like leaders.
    They can only bla-bla and waste gold on feeding their ego. I am disappointed."

    Egal, wie gut du Schach spielst, die Taube wird alle Figuren umwerfen, auf das Brett kacken und herumstolzieren, als hätte sie gewonnen.

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