It's far too easy, but this is exactly right for me for generic overland content. If I'm going out to farm mats or whatever I really don't want the combat to be especially noteworthy. If I'm going into a trial or fighting people in PvP though, or even doing group-overworld content like a world boss or what-have-you, THEN I prefer something much more challenging.

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ADarklore wrote: »

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Also, as Nestor has mentioned, if you want to make content difficult, use basic gear, stop using any type of buff, remove all CP, and play that way.
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Also, as I have mentioned, that doesn't actually make the content challenging. It just takes a bit longer facerolling my head over the keyboard until the mobs are dead (figuratively speaking).

Old Craglorn was really fun outside of the parts where you are forced to group just to open a door.

None of the mobs in Craglorn had any mechanics that made them tougher. It was health levels and number of mobs that determined that. And, with the proper gear and rotations, Old Craglorn is soloable. Except for the Old version Wasps. So, this is just the inverse of that to gear and buff down.

Been brought up before, but some form of difficulty slider could be a happy medium for controlling the ease/challenge.

I don't find it difficult, but I also don't want it to be difficult so I chose "just right" I don't want to be on edge every second I'm playing this game. I want some parts to be just me stomping through stuff, having fun and not worrying about precise dodge rolls and interrupting constantly. I have vet content for times when I want to do that. I'd say 90% of my playtime is me sitting down for 5 - 10 minutes at a time before something drags me away from the computer. I don't want to come back dead every time this happens.

I tried playing Secret World Legends for a bit and when the mobs starting taking as long as a boss fight each time I encountered them, I lost interest fast. Overland content should be a faceroll. Those mobs are just speedbumps on your way from A to B and anything more than that just feels like a slog.

Too easy in general far as quest flow n content goes but overworld bosses still own my face solo no matter my class lol, guess I need to git gud huh...

PlagueSD wrote: »

redspecter23 wrote: »

I tried playing Secret World Legends for a bit and when the mobs starting taking as long as a boss fight each time I encountered them, I lost interest fast. Overland content should be a faceroll. Those mobs are just speedbumps on your way from A to B and anything more than that just feels like a slog.

Not sure what the issue is. I'm currently level 24 and am having no issues killing things in Secret World Legends. I'm Chaos/pistols and I run with a buddy same level that's sword/elemental. We melt through everything.

With a friend, I found it more balanced. Second part in Egypt I started to find that soloing trash mobs was no longer worth it. Only got worse in the next zone. I found myself skipping, sneaking and running past every trash mob I could find. This was in the lv 35 - 50 range. In the lower levels I was destroying things solo. This is the problem I could see happening if the overland in ESO gets bumped up. Instead of making it a challenge, it just becomes an obstacle that most players run past and leash. They'd have to be careful not to run into this issue.

To answer the main question of the OP in more detail (I voted Just right), while most overland content (excluding world bosses and significant chunks in craglorn) is easy on my CP character even though she doesn't do a lot of damage (pretty much a tank build with a bit more damage when I'm solo), it's not nearly as easy when I'm on my low level characters where I don't really know what I'm doing yet and I die moderately often.

Yes, there are a lot of people who encounter some challenges with this content. Try pug tanking random normals; although I hit groups with decent damage, I also hit groups where my craptacular tank 3-4k dps is 25-30% of group total according to combat metrics, and a decent number of these players are somewhere in the CP. People certainly won't learn all they need on a starter island (and Firemoth is much shorter than the base game starter islands anyways).

I have no issues with difficulty adjustments but I don't see it happening outside of instanced content.

As far as grouping goes: I play ESO because I want the option to group with people some of the time. Grouping for story quests, IMO, unless you have a dedicated group with rigid discipline and very similar schedules and tastes, is awful if you're trying to actually grasp the story. People in the group rush from objective marker to objective marker, things proceed past your pace (and I do read quickly), someone runs some quests when you're not online and then shares the follow up or whatever they were doing, it becomes a jumbled mess. I prefer to do longer story quests on my own. And I need the option to be able to do something in game on my own; if I had to group to do anything other than harvest nodes and crafting writs, I wouldn't have stuck with the game. As it is, I can find stuff to do that allows me to progress my character and develop my skills/etc even when not grouped.

A couple of examples, also: I've seen people asking for help with a WB for 15-20 minutes in zone chat. If the zone is not one with well-farmed sets, and the WB is way out of the way, perhaps not marked on a lot of players maps - you can spend a long time with noone there (and I've done that also). I've also spent 10-15 minutes fighting a group boss (a repeatable daily) in Craglorn by myself, I had to carefully pull his minions first, then started in on him. Got him to 30% health, then the minions respawned, one uppercut me off the platform, and they pursued me, then ran back and reset. In that whole time...noone else came. I've also seen people asking for help with the Craglorn quests for a long time. Grouping works ok for shorter, repeatable self-contained stuff like dungeons, gold coast dailies, but it works poorly for longer questing.

So a question for the higher difficulty people: what about dungeons and trials is less satisfying to you? I can understand the issues with the size and game performance in trials and scheduling questions, and I'd have no issue with group content for other sizes (2, 6, 8 say). I can kind of see how not using CP is a pain (especially if you then want to go do something else that needs them) but it should be easy to don crap gear.

And yes I understand that its not quite as satisfying when a quest builds up to a serious boss, and then its either a piece of cake intrinsically, or 4 other people waltz in at the same time and it dies in seconds. But I accept that as the price to be paid for there to be a significant amount of content that I and most everyone can do solo.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/349826/fixing-too-easy-and-no-incentive-to-replay

Make it easier please. Want to be able to just look at a enemy npc and watch them fall over dead.

Jade1986 wrote: »

phairdon wrote: »

Make it easier please. Want to be able to just look at a enemy npc and watch them fall over dead.

Death by bad breath. xD. Wait, we have that already....Noxious Breath! xD

Haha

I hated wow and those types. Point a to be to c..never looking back and the game stopping you from jumping ahead.

Here now you can go where you want when you want.

Remembering back to a year ago when I had no CP and was starting my first character, I’d say it was just right. There were plenty of quest checkpoints I could not pass the first time, especially elites at the ends of quests in the first few major zones I played through.

I find it easy (with 950+ CP to my name), but I run across enough inexperienced players who ask for help with quest bosses that I think it's about right - given that everyone has to pay for the game, they should at least be able to batter through the quest content and hopefully learn how to become more effective while doing so. Although a lot of people wish for a return to "Beta Doshia" (which nearly put me off entirely), it's unrealistic to expect that level of difficulty in a game that hopes to be commercially viable for a long time, at least as far as basic quest content is concerned. IMO.