starkerealm wrote: »

Honestly, after your fourth or fifth time in a dungeon, you can easily get into a headspace where you're just spamming through dialog. Especially if you've got 13 other characters you need to knock out pledges on for today.

Ran through yesterdays pledges on my chars with a couple friends and a random.

5 minutes per dungeon.

So yeah, if someone wants story time, they can do it on their own time. Pledges are tedious enough as it is.
I'm not opposed to a "story mode" if it makes people happy.

mocap wrote: »

Totaly agree. Played dungeons like 9000 times and i still don't know anything about what is going on there...

AT'AVAR! WHERE ARE YOU!

I would actually suggest something different. And I haven't actually checked if it's in the game already - perhaps it is (so much the better!).

Essentially, a sort of a log of all conversations in all completed quests. That you can call up and read through, in order of entries, at your leisure. Sort of like what you see on the various ESO wikis out there when you search for a particular quest, but in-game. It's not quite the same as...reading the same exact dialogue inside the actual dungeon, but at least gets one a good part of the way there.

Because a) rebalancing group content for solo players just so that a subset of the latter - those who actually read quest dialogue while soloing instead of clicking through it - could go at their own pace seems a lot of trouble to go through, relatively speaking; and b) I don't mind the rush-kill-etc. nature of dungeons since, especially the umpteenth time one runs a given dungeon, it is very natural to just want to get things over with, grab the reward and move on (in fact, I fell into that same pattern in single player after my second or third character - to wit, all the Harborage quests and the associated dialogue).

So - give me an in-game log (thus obviating any need for me to search through a wiki, which can be a pain if one forgets the name of the quest), and the issue would be solved for me personally. Not that I would consider it to be a huge issue to begin with, comparatively speaking. [As opposed to, say, terrain elevation messing with Blade of Woe targeting, which is a personal point of annoyance.]

Y'know, I made the exact same kind of thread.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/369355/would-you-accept-a-solo-option-for-group-dungeons/p1

But I didn't get a single vote of any kind, while you get 40 Agrees. (including my own). Go figure.

Ipslor wrote: »

mocap wrote: »

Totaly agree. Played dungeons like 9000 times and i still don't know anything about what is going on there...

AT'AVAR! WHERE ARE YOU!

IT'S YOUR FATHER. I LOVE YOU! AND I WANT TO TALK TO YOU!

I would absolutely love some sort of story mode in the dungeons! Or a toggle in the dungeon finder so that I'll only be placed in a group with others who haven't done the quest yet? Something like that. Anything like that, really. xD Not having done any of the dungeons and their quests is what is keeping me from using the random grouping tool - or even joining guild groups that are running undaunted dailies, for that matter. I'm always worried that my total inexperience in any dungeon (I've only ever done Banished Cells with a friend ONCE) on top of me wanting to do the quest when we get there, is a total deal-breaker. I feel as though I'd seriously slow down any group, and most people using the dungeon finder are looking for a quick run.

Storymode with an content comprehension test at the end, gives you a tiny special trophy for your house and maybe a achievement.

But there will be yt guides out in seconds of release and the rush for it goes again.

sdtlc wrote: »

Storymode with an content comprehension test at the end, gives you a tiny special trophy for your house and maybe a achievement.

But there will be yt guides out in seconds of release and the rush for it goes again.

And that is the reason why story mode must be also solo one.

Turelus wrote: »

As long as it drops normal gear and not the sets, doesn't count for dailies etc. I have no issues with story modes for all the content.

Why shouldn't sets drop? You worried about all those people abusing the easy mode to farm green jewelry?

Turelus wrote: »

As long as it drops normal gear and not the sets, doesn't count for dailies etc. I have no issues with story modes for all the content.

Me too. It shouldn't drop sets, counts toward dailies, nor reward boss' furniture like normal mode. The quest in Story Mode could be repeatable, awarding you the 1 skill point when done for the first time, and an achievement for completing the dungeon story.
Trials, Cyrodiil & Imperial City could receive the same treatment (no AP, no sets and no collectibles). Not everyone has the same time to play and farm gear, getting deep into class' builds. Or they aren't interested into those, just want to chill and enjoy the story content. Some people's endgame is fishing, roleplaying, hunting lore books,...

@ZOS_GinaBruno please have a look at this thread and see how many agrees it got

We ppl are okay with little or no rewards when doing this, and this is something we can't do with queue (racers are always there) and non-repeatable quests, so we need this bad (ZOS benefit by looking good on paper at very least..many ppl will spend time on doing these solo content with ZOS not having to do some massive work)

So please please please

When on my tank, I have a small measure of control over the pace of the group, and I always ask before the group gets moving if anyone has the quest to do so that I don't rush that person through the quest and make sure we go to the quest markers. I also stay in the group afterward until they've had a chance to hand in the quest. Especially if there are pre-vet players in the group who may be new to the game.

Still, if you're unlucky and one of the DPS is a 1k cp who just wants to bang their way through it mindlessly to get it over with, there's not much I can do in a normal dungeon since it's so easy they can solo it (and often do). Having a story mode in the dungeon finder would be good; if it rewards lower loot or xp or doesn't count for keys it would help people who want to learn the dungeon and mechanics as much as those who want to experience the story. You could have an intermediate (between normal and vet) difficulty that lets people train for vet dungeons so that the jump isn't so high once you're at the right level to do them.

Also, for the love of Pete, let us exclude DLC dungeons from the dungeon finder! Doing random normals with DLC dungeons included, with a random group of (often) low level and under-geared characters who may be still learning the game, but get thrown into DLC dungeons because they have ESO+, is as frustrating an experience for them as well as those of us who have been playing for a while.

Not solo mode no, however I️ comprehend why people want an experience they don’t have to group for. Perhaps this is resolved by removing the scaled dungeon application when not grouped. Simple change seems reasonable for lower level dungeons and that makes most soloable.

The challenge with solo or a story mode is if you do this people will stop grouping all together. Ideally the reverse should occur outside of dungeons in that group content remains meaningful but the overworld difficulty for normal NPCs are doubled in difficulty.
Not boses just the normal NPCs that we can kill with any weapon heavy attacks in seconds.

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Not solo mode no, however I️ comprehend why people want an experience they don’t have to group for. Perhaps this is resolved by removing the scaled dungeon application when not grouped. Simple change seems reasonable for lower level dungeons and that makes most soloable.

The challenge with solo or a story mode is if you do this people will stop grouping all together. Ideally the reverse should occur outside of dungeons in that group content remains meaningful but the overworld difficulty for normal NPCs are doubled in difficulty.

Yes, requiring people to group worked so well in Craglorn, let's definitely have more of that. /s