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Stamplar VS StamDK: who is the better tank?
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Lightspeedflashb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭StamDKLightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »DocFrost72 wrote: »Funkopotamus wrote: »Eh I was able to Stamplar tank just fine in trials..
Only difference is the group needs to know mechanics.. Stamplar tanks are for experience players
I have even seen magplays tank VHMs..
I have yet to see a templar tanking the warrior or side tanking the adds in the Room near ozara. You have no resource management and would need a baby sitter 24/7. I main a templar and could only imagine running out of resources within a minute.
Mainproblem as templartank is selfhealing, not ressources...especially on warrior you have lots of time for heavy attacks...
Nailed it ^
On my dk I can survive a while alone because of gdb, same with warden and polar wind. There is a much more demanding stam return issue on a templar (repentance needs a rework from the ground up. Read: make rune focus restore stam or mag depending on max value...), but it is fine issue you plan for it and know the fight.
Not having an aoe root/add pull also hurts
i would not use GDB on my tank, i use igneous shield then vigor, better heals and more team support. my dk is actually a full on stam dk, i just switch out armor, bs, ebon, DG, with stam sets i have, SoM, hundings and agility with a master sword and vma bow back bar, she is then able to do desnt dps, like 25k dps, i am aware that is not going to set the world on fire but more then enough dps for most thing in the game and everything that i run as a dps on her. like 34k helath as tank, 17k as dps with 36k stam and 3k weapon damage.
GDB is the best selfheal in the game, there's no reason not to use it as a DK. When used properly it heals for 30k...40k and more...vigor and the other hand just tickles for 2k or so...not worth it if you are not using powerfull assault.
My tank has 33k health. Tell me again how it is going to hit for more then my total health? The thing about vigor is that you are healing everyone around you too, not just yourself, so you keep your team up more. My vigor ticks for 4ishk with all the buffs, so there is that.
Also not sure what is making you trail off in the middle of your paragraph with all the ellipses but you ought to have that checked out.Edited by Lightspeedflashb14_ESO on November 12, 2017 9:29AM0 -
Destruent✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »DocFrost72 wrote: »Funkopotamus wrote: »Eh I was able to Stamplar tank just fine in trials..
Only difference is the group needs to know mechanics.. Stamplar tanks are for experience players
I have even seen magplays tank VHMs..
I have yet to see a templar tanking the warrior or side tanking the adds in the Room near ozara. You have no resource management and would need a baby sitter 24/7. I main a templar and could only imagine running out of resources within a minute.
Mainproblem as templartank is selfhealing, not ressources...especially on warrior you have lots of time for heavy attacks...
Nailed it ^
On my dk I can survive a while alone because of gdb, same with warden and polar wind. There is a much more demanding stam return issue on a templar (repentance needs a rework from the ground up. Read: make rune focus restore stam or mag depending on max value...), but it is fine issue you plan for it and know the fight.
Not having an aoe root/add pull also hurts
i would not use GDB on my tank, i use igneous shield then vigor, better heals and more team support. my dk is actually a full on stam dk, i just switch out armor, bs, ebon, DG, with stam sets i have, SoM, hundings and agility with a master sword and vma bow back bar, she is then able to do desnt dps, like 25k dps, i am aware that is not going to set the world on fire but more then enough dps for most thing in the game and everything that i run as a dps on her. like 34k helath as tank, 17k as dps with 36k stam and 3k weapon damage.
GDB is the best selfheal in the game, there's no reason not to use it as a DK. When used properly it heals for 30k...40k and more...vigor and the other hand just tickles for 2k or so...not worth it if you are not using powerfull assault.
My tank has 33k health. Tell me again how it is going to hit for more then my total health? The thing about vigor is that you are healing everyone around you too, not just yourself, so you keep your team up more. My vigor ticks for 4ishk with all the buffs, so there is that.
Also not sure what is making you trail off in the middle of your paragraph with all the ellipses but you ought to have that checked out.
I may have mentioned, that i talk only about vettrials (mostly with hardmode) bc in most other content you don't need a real tank and heal. Vigor on tank can be usefull there, but in harder content i've ever seen it as a waste of stam for me...Noobplar1 -
Dubhliam✭✭✭✭✭
✭DK
And, NO!!!
It's not STAM.
The true value of a DK tank is in it's ability to spam:
Igneous Shiled (magicka skill)
Unrelenting Grip (magicka skill)
Choking Talons (magicka skill)
... you get where I am going with this?
Great tanks have over 1500 magicka recovery, and are effectively hybrids, never regarded as STAM tanks.0