Whats your DPS parse on a DD magicka templar and what kind of builds youre using (HoTR)?

DarkAedin · August 2017

Have u guys looked at 4 piece flameblossom? See if u can work that in

Destruent · August 2017

DarkAedin wrote: »

Have u guys looked at 4 piece flameblossom? See if u can work that in

not neccessary, with alkosh, infused crusher and some CP you are at pen-cap already.

s7732425ub17_ESO · August 2017

Does anyone have a metrics report of using Maw set? Every other Undaunted Helm seems to be capped at 3k dps. If Maw really is strong this patch and can beat 3k dps, it would be usable.

riberion · August 2017

Grabmoore wrote: »

I'm testing each day currently and @BlackbirdV suggested me to try maw of the infernal set, too.

However it did not perform too well for me with only 1.5k dps (counting his fire and both attacks).

I had my best parse with 5 julianos(body)/ 5 spinner/ 2 grothdar with apprentice mundus. 5/1/1 duel wield front(precise infused) plus lightning infused backbar. I got 32.6k selfbuffed, ob an argonian. BiS should be higher.

All in all I can only say that our dps is mediocre this patch. That's nothing new though....

Not perfect rotation and purple spinners.

EDI: added screenshot

What addon is this?

Reorx_Holybeard · August 2017

riberion wrote: »

Grabmoore wrote: »

I'm testing each day currently and @BlackbirdV suggested me to try maw of the infernal set, too.

However it did not perform too well for me with only 1.5k dps (counting his fire and both attacks).

I had my best parse with 5 julianos(body)/ 5 spinner/ 2 grothdar with apprentice mundus. 5/1/1 duel wield front(precise infused) plus lightning infused backbar. I got 32.6k selfbuffed, ob an argonian. BiS should be higher.

All in all I can only say that our dps is mediocre this patch. That's nothing new though....

Not perfect rotation and purple spinners.

EDI: added screenshot

What addon is this?

That is Combat Metrics.

Diggitydug · October 2017

I m seliberately and purposefully ressurecting this Magica Templar dps thread. I am starting a new Templar, with the intent if doing ranged DPS. I have seen Alcast post a Destro/Destro Mageplat build, but i have not seen any DPS parses of it. I also have a Magsorc, whoch i know is much easier.

My hope is to set my character up for DPS, but still be able to heal dungons and offheal raids, with gear and skill swaps (not changing cps or stats.

Can we get some more magica remplar builds and dps reports for Clockwork City?

Darkdex · October 2017

Diggitydug wrote: »

I m seliberately and purposefully ressurecting this Magica Templar dps thread. I am starting a new Templar, with the intent if doing ranged DPS. I have seen Alcast post a Destro/Destro Mageplat build, but i have nit seen a y DPS parses of it. I also have a Magsorc, whoch i know is much easier.

My hope is to set my character up for DPS, but still be able to heal dungons and offheal raids, ith gear and skill swaps (not changing cps or stats.

Can we get some more magica remplar builds and dps reports for Clockwork City?

You can see the test done by @Alcast on the magicka Templar, look for it in his YouTube channel, he was using a perfected Asylum staff, but good results are possible with the imperfect one.

Belyar · October 2017

danno8 wrote: »

Using an easy-to-get setup of:
5*Julianos
5*Spinners
2*Slimecraw or Grothdar or anything else with a good offensive 1st and 2nd bonus

with Apprentice Mundus for SD (tried thief and lover too, apprentice gave the best results)

In Homestead I would reach 33k 100% solo
Morrowind this setup dipped to 30-31k
Now (5.4) I can just barely break the 30k mark.

Switching to staff (5-5-1 setup) nets nearly the same results.

May I ask what abilities you have slotted? I enjoy playing my mageplar, but couldn't get high dps like that ( ~25k max )

danno8 · October 2017

Belyar wrote: »

danno8 wrote: »

Using an easy-to-get setup of:
5*Julianos
5*Spinners
2*Slimecraw or Grothdar or anything else with a good offensive 1st and 2nd bonus

with Apprentice Mundus for SD (tried thief and lover too, apprentice gave the best results)

In Homestead I would reach 33k 100% solo
Morrowind this setup dipped to 30-31k
Now (5.4) I can just barely break the 30k mark.

Switching to staff (5-5-1 setup) nets nearly the same results.

May I ask what abilities you have slotted? I enjoy playing my mageplar, but couldn't get high dps like that ( ~25k max )

I believe my setup was:

Bar 1: Puncturing Sweep, Vampires Bane, Purifying Light, Inner Light, Radiant Glory, Destro Ultimate
Bar 2: Elemental Blockade, Blazing Spear, (can't remember but maybe Rearming Trap) , Inner Light, Elemental Drain, Meteor

I was able to eventually get my DPS to crack the 32k mark, but I have been ignoring my Templar lately so I don't know if anything changed too much with CWC.

Also keep in mind I have EVERYTHING maxed out that can matter, like Undaunted for the extra stats, etc... These thing are the silent difference for a lot of people who can't figure out why they aren't hitting the same DPS as others, even when they have a good tight rotation and all the right gear.

Also make sure you are using the tri-magicka pots.

Diggitydug · October 2017

Thanks for that hint, i dod not know Alcast had put up a DPS combat parse four days ago. 37k is pretty good and certainly competative. Not Magica sorc level, but still pretty good.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1qVBhlfg7m4

I cant figure out what his gear is here, or whoch build that links back to. I assume its his beamplar build here:

https://alcasthq.com/eso-magicka-templar-build-pve/

Qbiken · October 2017

Diggitydug wrote: »

Thanks for that hint, i dod not know Alcast had put up a DPS combat parse four days ago. 37k is pretty good and certainly competative. Not Magica sorc level, but still pretty good.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1qVBhlfg7m4

I cant figure out what his gear is here, or whoch build that links back to. I assume its his beamplar build here:

https://alcasthq.com/eso-magicka-templar-build-pve/

When forcepuls outdps your main spammable (sweeps) something is very wrong......gg zos

Destruent · October 2017

Qbiken wrote: »

Diggitydug wrote: »

Thanks for that hint, i dod not know Alcast had put up a DPS combat parse four days ago. 37k is pretty good and certainly competative. Not Magica sorc level, but still pretty good.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1qVBhlfg7m4

I cant figure out what his gear is here, or whoch build that links back to. I assume its his beamplar build here:

https://alcasthq.com/eso-magicka-templar-build-pve/

When forcepuls outdps your main spammable (sweeps) something is very wrong......gg zos

Don't worry, it's not only forcepulse but lightning-heavy aswell

UppGRAYxDD · October 2017

No jabs or Jbeam....I died alittle inside seeing Alcast's dps parse. Seriously @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_MichaelServotte @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_GaryA @ZOS_TristanK . Fix Magplars... tumblr_lpj5847Z3L1qhccbb.gif?resize=480%2C326

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Qbiken · October 2017

Destruent wrote: »

Qbiken wrote: »

Diggitydug wrote: »

Thanks for that hint, i dod not know Alcast had put up a DPS combat parse four days ago. 37k is pretty good and certainly competative. Not Magica sorc level, but still pretty good.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1qVBhlfg7m4

I cant figure out what his gear is here, or whoch build that links back to. I assume its his beamplar build here:

https://alcasthq.com/eso-magicka-templar-build-pve/

When forcepuls outdps your main spammable (sweeps) something is very wrong......gg zos

Don't worry, it's not only forcepulse but lightning-heavy aswell

I know, been the case since One Tamriel sadly....

Kammakazi · October 2017

I average ~36.5k on my High Elf Magplar (with an guildie applying drain for me)

- 5x Divines Julianos (5 Body)
- 4x Moondancer (3 Jewelry, 1 Sharpened Lightning Staff)
- 2x Divines Valkyn Skoria (2 Body)
- 1x Precise Maelstrom Lightning Staff
- Lover Stone (dummy testing) / Apprentice (raid)

Rotation is: Channeled Focus > Swap > Elemental Rage > Blazing Spear > LA > Elemental Blockade > LA > Purifying Light > LA > Vampire's Bane > LA > Swap > 2x Lightning HA > Swap & Repeat from Blazing Spear

Pretty basic. Magicka is always 80% and up. However, it's very boring, and you aren't using sweeps/clench. Might as well play a Mag Sorc at this point.

Diggitydug · October 2017

@Kammakazi
Lighting malesrom in the back bar? I may try Fire destro insread on my Dumner Templar. It seems like your build would be good for kiting in veteran maelstrom. How do you have your skill bars set up?

Diggitydug · November 2017

@ZOS_MikaS or @ZOS_KatP

Could we get this threas moved to the combat & character mechanics forum where it might get more esposure, please?

rustic_potato · November 2017

Looking at about 35k on a 6mill dummy with external eledrain and about 33.5k with self eledrain. In raid parses vary a lot depending on the fight.

Diggitydug · November 2017

What is your setup and rotation, rustic? Are you ranged or mid mele range using sweeps?

Asardes · November 2017

Lightning on both bars is better on Templar since most of your skills are AoE. Just be sure to slot an Aedric Spear (10% bonus critical damage) and a destro staff (8% bonus AoE) skill on both bars for maximum effectiveness. Blockade also gives off-balance.

DeHei · November 2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vM0KS6p4N24

DeHei · November 2017

Grabmoore wrote: »

I'm testing each day currently and @BlackbirdV suggested me to try maw of the infernal set, too.

However it did not perform too well for me with only 1.5k dps (counting his fire and both attacks).

I had my best parse with 5 julianos(body)/ 5 spinner/ 2 grothdar with apprentice mundus. 5/1/1 duel wield front(precise infused) plus lightning infused backbar. I got 32.6k selfbuffed, ob an argonian. BiS should be higher.

All in all I can only say that our dps is mediocre this patch. That's nothing new though....

Not perfect rotation and purple spinners.

EDI: added screenshot

Do you use light attacks between your skills? I dont see any damage from common attacks in your combat metrics log..

Siliziumdioxid · November 2017

pure cheese and unsustainable:

DeHei · November 2017

Siliziumdioxid wrote: »

pure cheese and unsustainable:

group supported; yeah test it on 6kk dummie and show us your damage again

Alcast · November 2017

I found that you can pull good damage with Magicka Templar. It is not the "real" problem. For me the real problem is that the Magplar just lost its identity with all those bugs plaugeing it. So you are better off taking Jesus Beam and Punct Sweeps and will get more dps and that is what bugs me.
So you either have a Heavy Attack build or a Force Pulse spam build that pulls good numbers but basically nothing left of the Magicka templar with its original skills.
I really enjoyed a Dualwield Playstyle with my Magicka Templar back in the days with Punct Sweeps and Jesus beam was great. BUt that stuff all gone now and you end up with a hollow magplar

Also back in the days when you went into execute you felt powerful as a Magicka Templar because Jesus Beam did so much damage and helped a lot in execute. Now its a noodle beam bugged and does almost no damage not even worth slotting

And so far no word from @ZOS_Wrobel on when they are or IF they are fixing it

Destruent · November 2017

Alcast wrote: »

I found that you can pull good damage with Magicka Templar. It is not the "real" problem. For me the real problem is that the Magplar just lost its identity with all those bugs plaugeing it. So you are better off taking Jesus Beam and Punct Sweeps and will get more dps and that is what bugs me.
So you either have a Heavy Attack build or a Force Pulse spam build that pulls good numbers but basically nothing left of the Magicka templar with its original skills.
I really enjoyed a Dualwield Playstyle with my Magicka Templar back in the days with Punct Sweeps and Jesus beam was great. BUt that stuff all gone now and you end up with a hollow magplar

Also back in the days when you went into execute you felt powerful as a Magicka Templar because Jesus Beam did so much damage and helped a lot in execute. Now its a noodle beam bugged and does almost no damage not even worth slotting

You basically play a NB or Sorc with yellow skills instead of red/blueish....better to play the original for pure DPS imo...

Ariades_swe · November 2017

Alcast wrote: »

I found that you can pull good damage with Magicka Templar. It is not the "real" problem. For me the real problem is that the Magplar just lost its identity with all those bugs plaugeing it. So you are better off taking Jesus Beam and Punct Sweeps and will get more dps and that is what bugs me.
So you either have a Heavy Attack build or a Force Pulse spam build that pulls good numbers but basically nothing left of the Magicka templar with its original skills.
I really enjoyed a Dualwield Playstyle with my Magicka Templar back in the days with Punct Sweeps and Jesus beam was great. BUt that stuff all gone now and you end up with a hollow magplar

Also back in the days when you went into execute you felt powerful as a Magicka Templar because Jesus Beam did so much damage and helped a lot in execute. Now its a noodle beam bugged and does almost no damage not even worth slotting

And so far no word from @ZOS_Wrobel on when they are or IF they are fixing it

What excactly is the sweeps bug? I mainly pvp so havent payed attention.
Has zos acknowledged it or is it maybe a stealth nerf?

Blackbird_V · November 2017

Ariades_swe wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

I found that you can pull good damage with Magicka Templar. It is not the "real" problem. For me the real problem is that the Magplar just lost its identity with all those bugs plaugeing it. So you are better off taking Jesus Beam and Punct Sweeps and will get more dps and that is what bugs me.
So you either have a Heavy Attack build or a Force Pulse spam build that pulls good numbers but basically nothing left of the Magicka templar with its original skills.
I really enjoyed a Dualwield Playstyle with my Magicka Templar back in the days with Punct Sweeps and Jesus beam was great. BUt that stuff all gone now and you end up with a hollow magplar

Also back in the days when you went into execute you felt powerful as a Magicka Templar because Jesus Beam did so much damage and helped a lot in execute. Now its a noodle beam bugged and does almost no damage not even worth slotting

And so far no word from @ZOS_Wrobel on when they are or IF they are fixing it

What excactly is the sweeps bug? I mainly pvp so havent payed attention.
Has zos acknowledged it or is it maybe a stealth nerf?

Doesn't calculate damage properly from multiplicatives. Things such as CP, Minor/Major slayer etc. aren't boosting the damage from Beam and sweeps properly. Beam is really buggy as the max magicka doesn't get execute bonus, and the beam didn't get the execute global buff every others did.

Ps @Alcast Wrobel did state they're looking into the damage calculations on the PTS Templar thread.

Siliziumdioxid · November 2017

@DeHei here is the parse:

(5xJulianos 3x Aether 2x Ilambris Master Fire & Maelstrom Lightning)

btw: i don't miss Puncturing Sweeps (the only skill that limits templar to melee) find the lightning heavies way cooler. But i miss that high J-Beam ticks.

DeHei · November 2017

Siliziumdioxid wrote: »

@DeHei here is the parse:

(5xJulianos 3x Aether 2x Ilambris Master Fire & Maelstrom Lightning)

btw: i don't miss Puncturing Sweeps (the only skill that limits templar to melee) find the lightning heavies way cooler. But i miss that high J-Beam ticks.

But look, you deal good DPS so. I dont would use flame reach as one of the highest costs skills, but 37k DPS is really great