You didn't explain any sets that your character is using if any.
PvP requires a lot of active defenses. Dodge roll, vigor, rally, blocking the occasional heavy hits, etc.
Crafted armor with traits? Way to narrow it down. The typical suggested trait for PvP is impenetrable.
How is your CP distributed? It can be quite easy to put points into useless/unimportant stars.

Regular stamina players should be along very shortly to say how useless medium armor is, they will suggest heavy armor.

First things first, PvP is not easy. I've been playing at it for a year and there are still people who can trash me like I walked in with no gear on at all. Beyond skill, latency is king in pvp. Those with a good system that can handle all of the effects and calculations, as well as a low ping will always have an edge. Bad location/ISP and/or a low end system is crippling. However, thats not an excuse just something to acknowledge. There are great players on crappy computers playing from asia, but they will lose to someone of equal skill with better ping and system.

Secondly, PvP is not easy lol. It really takes a long time to learn and its nothing like PvE at all. You're going to die a lot for a long time and its going to feel like nothing you do makes a difference until it clicks and you start to learn the flow of skills and how to properly move about your environment. PvP is just as much about knowing your class and skills as it is about know the class and skills of your opponent.

Thirdly, you need to run the proper gear/traits and CP. Theres a lot of sets and a lot of options so I suggest you look at some builds on youtube or just google mag dk pvp build for horns of the reach. Watch how good players do their thing. Not much has changed in clock work city. Good luck!

Remember, don't beat yourself up! It takes a looooong time.

Medium works well with Snb with other classes id reccommend heavy

Drummerx04 wrote: »

Regular stamina players should be along very shortly to say how useless medium armor is, they will suggest heavy armor.

Stam player here.

Medium armour isn't all that bad. Though that heavily comes down to build. If your class has the right defensive tools, it can work rather well.

Case and point, on my stam sorc, I heavily focus on mobility and use streak a lot to gain an advantage. The speed and passive recovery from medium suits that kind of build really well.
Likewise a stamblade can do the same with cloak and shade. Stamplar, StamDk and Stamden don't have these tools and thus are pidgeonholed into heavy for survivability.

Vapirko wrote: »

First things first, PvP is not easy. I've been playing at it for a year and there are still people who can trash me like I walked in with no gear on at all. Beyond skill, latency is king in pvp. Those with a good system that can handle all of the effects and calculations, as well as a low ping will always have an edge. Bad location/ISP and/or a low end system is crippling. However, thats not an excuse just something to acknowledge. There are great players on crappy computers playing from asia, but they will lose to someone of equal skill with better ping and system.

Secondly, PvP is not easy lol. It really takes a long time to learn and its nothing like PvE at all. You're going to die a lot for a long time and its going to feel like nothing you do makes a difference until it clicks and you start to learn the flow of skills and how to properly move about your environment. PvP is just as much about knowing your class and skills as it is about know the class and skills of your opponent.

Thirdly, you need to run the proper gear/traits and CP. Theres a lot of sets and a lot of options so I suggest you look at some builds on youtube or just google mag dk pvp build for horns of the reach. Watch how good players do their thing. Not much has changed in clock work city. Good luck!

Remember, don't beat yourself up! It takes a looooong time.

This.

I do alright in medium with a StamDK. Im in Sotha but will likely move as my alliance is almost always quite empty. I get stuck fighting 9 players at once.

As others have covered.

PvP takes some learning, be patient. Get in with a guild to learn or at least type LFG in chat to get a group to roll with.

Gear - use sets. Makes a big difference.

Traits - what are you using? Need Impen / Crit resist

CP - what are your CP assignments again a bit help (tho non Cp camp can save you this and make it easier as you are mid CP)

Vapirko wrote: »

I’m seeing a little misinformation here, or what might be construed as misinfo. Medium is not wrong on a stamina DK, heavy is meta but doesn’t make medium wrong especially now. But that’s moot because your race is mag DK and you’ll want to run heavy to start and maybe move to light later if you think you can manage.

The OP did say they are playing a stam DK, not mag DK.

Experiment with poisons! There are so many good poisons and you can really benefit from using them.

learning to keep ur buffs up and self heal is 90 percent of pvp. being disciplined enough to block, back away and find line of sight, heal is key. doing damage is the same as in pve- unload on those ***- but also learn how to weave, light attack weave heavy attack weave and animation cancel. just gets more damage ion there at once

feyii wrote: »

Vapirko wrote: »

I’m seeing a little misinformation here, or what might be construed as misinfo. Medium is not wrong on a stamina DK, heavy is meta but doesn’t make medium wrong especially now. But that’s moot because your race is mag DK and you’ll want to run heavy to start and maybe move to light later if you think you can manage.

The OP did say they are playing a stam DK, not mag DK.

You're absolute right, my bad. I skipped it and just saw the race and assumed. Anyway OP you should be playing Mag DK with that race.

ChildOfLight wrote: »

Buffler wrote: »

ChildOfLight wrote: »

Luciferazazell wrote: »

[...]Dragon knight stamina [...]what am i doing wrong ?

What you're doing wrong is choosing to play the StamDk in PvP.

This class is absolutely garbage in comparison with everything else.

The problem is not the 0,001% edge the correct race would grant, as someone stated.
The nerf train, stamDK suffered over the last 5 patch or so on, is the current issue.



As if this was not enough, we had some top eso streamer stating he was not playing StamDk cause it was too easy.

Laughing out loud.

So much nonsense in this post im not even going to begin dissecting it.

I am sorry but I can't really take the opinion on PVP and balance of someone who posts discussion like:
"Where do I get Ravager set?" seriously.

Lol, if you check the post i was double checking which town it came from after they just swapped it all about. [Snip].

[Edited to remove baiting]

Luciferazazell wrote: »

So im having trouble playing in pvp i mostly play in pve but when ever i do play in pvp or duels i get murdered this is with players at my level and lower what am i doing wrong so my build is a stamina build . Dragon knight stamina race is dark elf yes you heard that right i know ive heard red guards are recomemnded for stamina builds but i like dark elf i dont think its the root of the cuase i could be wrong anyway so heres my stats and skills as best as i can explain them

So im at level 50 and 384 champion points
Atributes i have 50 to stamina 10 to health and 4 to magika most stamina builds recomend putting most of the atribute points to stamina so i did
My armor was crafted medium armor deadric with traits and all stamina enchantments on all of it and i use max materials 130, 150 rubedo
Weapon swaps between 2 handed and bow
Skills on both weapons are all unlock including passives
Ardent flame everything unlocked
Draconic power everything unlocked
Earthen heart eveeything unlocked
Dark elf skills everything unlocked
Medium armor skills everything unlocked
Assault and support im at level 6 in both and working on it
So there you have it any other specifics just ask but in duels and in cyrodill every else seems faster and they hit harder and dont die as fast im dead in like 2 hits what am i doing wrong ?

Best way to learn/improve pvp mechanics IMHO:
create a new character, when you are lev. 15-20 join under lev. 50 campaign.
Craft/enchant your set and weapons every 4 level (with a stamdk u might go clever alchemist/willow path blue quality gear).
Buy jewels and enchant them with recovery/damage.

PLAY. PLAY GROUP, PLAY SOLO.

This way u'll have an edge over many (also unexperienced) opponents, so you'll start to have fun and learn the basics of pvp...

Some quick thoughts:

At 384 CPs I would choose a non-CP campaign to PvP in because the majority of players you're up against are going to be CP690, placing you at a significant disadvantage.

PvP is a lot about survival and battlefield awareness rather than just damage dealing. Which means plenty of self-healing (Vigor in the Assault tree is a must for stam builds), crit protection, use of dodge roll, block, break free etc. Sustain is important too as you will often be in combat for extended periods. If you want to focus more on damage, then focus on burst damage.

You need to set your ability bars up differently for PvP than PvE, with more attention on crowd control, escape and gap closer abilities. Also don't forget any passives that can help make your character more resilient.

One melee and one range bar is a good choice for PvP, so 2h and bow is fine.

Make sure your gear is fully enchanted and has some set bonuses designed for either survival, sustain or burst damage. Purple gear is needed for CP160 PvP, but you can get away with blue in non-50 PvP (although purple still better).

Keep out of seige and player AOE as much as you can. Sounds simple but you'd be surprised how many players don't. Also, even in a team environment it's as much about looking after yourself as your team mates, so be aware of where everyone is. Don't over-extend when your team pushes and get yourself isolated (unless you have a resilient build designed to push), don't just rush in but pick your moment and your target. Learn how certain other players and classes tend to behave and adjust your tactics.

PvP is horrible to learn. you should just give up and quit. Right now. No? You will die die die die diedie die die die die and die again. and again. and even more. Then you might start to improve. Or not - then you'll leave , like every other PvE'er who got their ass handed to them and says PvP suckz.

OR...

you 'll get really effin angry and start to look at why you died. What exactly killed you? You'll ask LOTS of questions (you've already taken the first step! ) and ask how to prevent getting killed by 'X' (x = skill/damage type/etc). You'll learn to dodge roll and drop into stealth, you'll start to make sure you are seen as little as possible. You'll become more alert and know exactly what to do as that ganker surprises you and smaks you upside the face. And then you'll kill her or him. and you 'll do it again a few minutes later after they track you down after rezzing at Cropsford. Then they'll avoid you and tell their mates that you are pretty tastey and to avoid you too.

Then you'll know - you're doing it right. See you in Cyrodiil.....?