Gargath wrote: »

You can do a normal dungeon with quest alone or with single friend who also didn't make the quest yet or who did but is eager to wait for you. Avoid pugs at all cost when you want to read quest lines. People like to be salty and rude when you try to do it. They just don't want to wait for you, instead they rush into battle, finish it quickly then brag of their dps and blame you of being idle.

I don't think I could manage the normal Group Dungeons alone. I have tried but I die pretty much instantly (still level 180).
And I don't have any friends who play this game I could do them with.

Another super irritating thing is how you unspawn from the location when everyone else leaves the group. I did a super long dungeon in Cyrodiill in the tower, probably one of the largest dungeons, I come to the end to accept the completion of the quest but are kicked out because everyone else have already left directly so while I am reading what the quest giver is saying at the end of the quest I am kicked out before I can accept the completion of the quest.

Sometimes it feels like there is no thought at all behind this game.

OutcastVP wrote: »

I don't think I could manage the normal Group Dungeons alone. I have tried but I die pretty much instantly (still level 180).
And I don't have any friends who play this game I could do them with.

What kind of build are you using?

Sadly, this is just the way it has become in all MMOs. To truly enjoy a dungeon quest line you have to solo it or bring a friend. Everything needs to happen fast these days, I already feel like an old man at 26.

Those "low level" players could be just regular players on a new character, trying to get Undaunted skill line as quick as possible. So yeah, using group finder is not really a good option if you want to experience the quests.

Personally I start all normal dungeons on my 660CP tank by asking "Anyone need gear or quest?" Its a nice icebreaker, and especially if there are low level players in the group, they may need the quest. Then at the end, I'll wait until they've finished the quest dialogue so they don't get booted. (And that's how I discovered the old groupfinder bug that the last person out of the dungeon could continue to get Premium rewards for random dungeons. Thankfully they've fixed this one.)

But you do have to speak up. See, if I've already completed the dungeon quest, the quest markers don't even show up for me. I don't have any way to tell when you need to stop and listen for dialogue unless you tell me or I somehow remember it from when I did the quest months previously.

I'll be glad to wait for you if you tell me you need the quest, and I expect that most other players will understand as well. Its a two-way street. We have to be willing to wait and you have to tell us you need us to wait.

As a higher-level player speaking to higher-level players now, if you want to blast through the dungeon without waiting for low level players to quest when they ask you to wait, do yourself and them a favor and queue with a premade group.

My build is using a bow

OutcastVP wrote: »

LadyNalcarya wrote: »

Most of dungeons can be soloed. Normal versions are super easy so that shouldnt be a problem.
There are some dungeons that cant be soloed due to mechanics, but you can cooperate with a likeminded player and do them together.

As far as I have seen it is impossible to solo the group dungeons. I know when I did the white gold tower and we where 4 players we had to redo the last boss a lot of times before we beat it. It would be impossible solo. Even when grouping with other players there are often close calls and deaths sometimes and bosses do take quite a time to take down.

If you say they are "super easy" you must speak of dungeons that are not made for groups? I am talking about the dungeons that have an icon like a temple door with a (+) sign beside them that you team up with the group finder.

no they are speaking of group dungeons. there are players for whom group dungeons ARE "super easy" that doesn't mean they are ACTUALLY super easy for everyone. it means that the player has higher level of skill and gear. and they also tend to ignore the fact that it took them a lot of practice and dying to get the the point where its "easy"

that said, just using a bow is not a build. what class are you? what skills are you using and which morphs? what gear? what is on your front bar. back bar. how is your cp allocated?

you might still not be able to solo group dungeons (I can't either, don't have reflexes or desire to min max to that degree), but improving your build could still make your time in game more fun

If you can play as a healer or tank then the rest of the group will have to wait for you, or die haha.

LadyNalcarya wrote: »

OutcastVP wrote: »

LadyNalcarya wrote: »

Most of dungeons can be soloed. Normal versions are super easy so that shouldnt be a problem.
There are some dungeons that cant be soloed due to mechanics, but you can cooperate with a likeminded player and do them together.

As far as I have seen it is impossible to solo the group dungeons. I know when I did the white gold tower and we where 4 players we had to redo the last boss a lot of times before we beat it. It would be impossible solo. Even when grouping with other players there are often close calls and deaths sometimes and bosses do take quite a time to take down.

If you say they are "super easy" you must speak of dungeons that are not made for groups? I am talking about the dungeons that have an icon like a temple door with a (+) sign beside them that you team up with the group finder.

I mean group dungeons, like Banished Cells, City of Ash etc. Dlc dungeons (like White-Gold tower) can be soloed (unless they have a special mechanic that requires 2 players), but theyre more difficult.
Hmm, perhaps that was veteran White-Gold tower? If you prefer more "immersive" playstyle and dont care about challenges, its better to choose "normal" versions. I know, group finder offers you "random veteran" by default, but you can choose normal versions in drop-down menu.

OutcastVP wrote: »

My build is using a bow

Can you please provide more info? Your class, which abilities/gear you're using, this type of thing.

That is very strange, it was the White Gold normal. But any of them feel way to difficult for me alone. I mean I am a skilled gamer (have been a gamer since C64 and always play every game on hardest dif), but this game is just a numbers game basically so I don't think it has anything to do with that either.

I don't know if my build is "optimal" though. I use a bow and medium armour. All my armour and weapons are max level and my weapon is legendary quality. As for my slots I basically use Draining Shot and Lethal Arrow and some others.

I have noticed some other players can take down enemies faster though so I guess a bow is probably not the most optimal weapon. My LVL is 189

OutcastVP wrote: »

If anyone here want to join a guild that do group quests and wait for dialogue I would be very happy to join and play.

What Platform are you on? PC, XBOX , PS4?

It is really nice of people to want to help. I am on PC though

I created a group called "QuestGroup". Are you able to find it, or can you search for my name in the game? (I am playing right now)

victoriana-blue wrote: »

There's also a really irritating "feature" where when 2+ people are doing the dungeon quest at the same time, if one of them zooms through the dialogue it'll advance the quest for the other person and boot them out of the conversation.

It's worth reminding people about it, and I say that as a max CP player. I've screwed up other peoples' quests by accident when I'm leveling alts, because I've read the conversations before and forget that dialogue is strange.

(Oh, and I can recommend Lone Wolf Help (PC-NA) and Pacrooti's Hirelings (PC-NA & -EU). Both guilds have people who are happy to wait for quests, just ask in guild chat.)

Ah that is what has happened to me sometimes and I wonder why the dialogue closes. I just don't understand the people who "designed" this game.

About these Lone Wolf Help group, how do I get in contact with them to invite me?

Duoing the 14-15 easiest dungeons is straightforward, on normal mode.

The biggest thing that makes most dungeons hard to solo is that there are usually one or more bosses that subject at least one player to disablement/cc/whatever. Having more than one player in a group is usually a great answer for that.

By "14-15" easiest dungeons I mean the non-DLC, non-vet ones other than Blackheart Haven and maybe Selene's Web. The disabling is so strong in the final Blackheart Haven fight that that's even tough for a duo (but I have duoed it with my wife, even though we have the reflexes of people old enough to be grandparents). Selene's is probably the next hardest, due more to damage than to cc.

Thats the main reason i steer away from group content. I listen and read all the dialogue the first time or two playing through the content but skip it after that. But doing group content everyone always skips the dialogue so I don't want to feel like I'm holding anyone back so I just don't bother.