ATreeGnome wrote: »

First, let me be clear, I do not object to gold quality dungeon set jewelry being sold by the Cyrodiil vendor. What does bother me about this is that the same jewelry won't be obtainable though the dungeons that drop the respective sets. This strikes me as unfair and it takes away some of the incentive for players to clear dungeons. The most powerful versions of the items that were only obtainable via PvE will only be available for gold or AP. If gold jewelry for these sets is going to be available in ESO at all then there should also be a dungeon related way to get it. I DON'T want it to be common and I DON'T want it to be easy to get either. Make it super rare, maybe add an "extra hard mode" and have gold jewelry be an uncommon reward- possibly only if the dungeon is also being completed as a pledge, anything would be fine. It's already difficult enough to motivate people to do dungeons right now as so few dungeon sets can compete with the best sets that are crafted or obtained from the PvP vendors and I don't want to see it get worse. Pledges are one of my favorite things in this game and I simply want them to offer competitive rewards with the other areas of the game.

Man i wish pvp had any competetive rewards compared to pve.

I think literally the last time i wore a pvp dropped set for an extended period of time was two and a half years back when archmage was a thing pre patch 1.6.

The gold dungeon/overland jewelry will not be obtainable with gold if i understood it right.

Man i wish pvp had any competetive rewards compared to pve.

I think literally the last time i wore a pvp dropped set for an extended period of time was two and a half years back when archmage was a thing pre patch 1.6.

The gold dungeon/overland jewelry will not be obtainable with gold if i understood it right.

The patch notes indicate that both dungeon and overland jewelry will be available for gold. I agree that the PvP mailed reward sets should be improved, but as I understand gold quality jewelry for those sets can be obtained through the leader boards and can be sold by the Cyrodiil vendor, plus the sets from the PvP town vendors can be sold by the gold vendor. So even though few of these sets are particularly desirable you CAN get the highest quality version from doing PvP- be it through leader boards or spending the AP that you earned. I'm not asking for getting gold dungeon set jewelry from PvE to be any easier than these methods, just possible.

Subversus wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

ATreeGnome wrote: »

First, let me be clear, I do not object to gold quality dungeon set jewelry being sold by the Cyrodiil vendor. What does bother me about this is that the same jewelry won't be obtainable though the dungeons that drop the respective sets. This strikes me as unfair and it takes away some of the incentive for players to clear dungeons. The most powerful versions of the items that were only obtainable via PvE will only be available for gold or AP. If gold jewelry for these sets is going to be available in ESO at all then there should also be a dungeon related way to get it. I DON'T want it to be common and I DON'T want it to be easy to get either. Make it super rare, maybe add an "extra hard mode" and have gold jewelry be an uncommon reward- possibly only if the dungeon is also being completed as a pledge, anything would be fine. It's already difficult enough to motivate people to do dungeons right now as so few dungeon sets can compete with the best sets that are crafted or obtained from the PvP vendors and I don't want to see it get worse. Pledges are one of my favorite things in this game and I simply want them to offer competitive rewards with the other areas of the game.

Man i wish pvp had any competetive rewards compared to pve.

I think literally the last time i wore a pvp dropped set for an extended period of time was two and a half years back when archmage was a thing pre patch 1.6.

The gold dungeon/overland jewelry will not be obtainable with gold if i understood it right.

But buuuuuut... you use 2 pvp dropped sets on this certain class you play

Huh? What have i missed?

I´ve tried a couple of pvp sets in the past. Never found them to be worthwhile.

I dislike the system as a whole, imo the vendor should be available all the time and sell all the jewelery, but in green quality. (Put it in a lotterybox if u have to)
For dungeons: normals keep dropping blue, veteran dungeons stay purple, hm should drop golden pieces.
For zonesets, i'd prefer same dropchances as now, but the tiers increased by one, commonly blue, average purple, rarely gold. (maybe finetune droprates a bit) Even when zergrushing a dolmen u have to bring a tiny bit of dmg or healing to get the box at the end, which is more efford, than crafting green foods for npc and buying the golden stuff from pvp-vendor.

The point behind would be, to give easy access to lowtier gear (where having set outweights having set in perfect trait/qualiy), and reward completing hms. As is, doing e.g. normal fungal on 2 alts gives the same 2 keys as doing any of the hm dlc-vetdungeons once. (also easy access to exotic sets for the sake of trying them out)

Next step (to keep dreaming): Implement imperfect versions of the arena weapons for ndsa and nma. those among w/ asylum could/should also be available for pvp-means (incase those r desired for pvp-builds? just a wild guess they might be, cause i like some of the pvp-sets for pve, like morag/desert rose/black rose/pa). Tho im not sure how to implement a way that requires to show efford and cant be "exploited" by wintrading or farmed by repairing walls and the likes. I do not really like the way it works now as in "farm a couple million ap and than be lucky with boxes or on what the vendor offers".

You guys realize that most vet HM dungeons are a joke, and the ones that aren't have no sets worth grinding for? If they made vet HM dungeons drop gold jewelry, I'd solo CoA1 vet HM a few times to get BSW and never look back.

I find it funny that PvErs are complaining about not being able to get gear running content they enjoy, when that has been the compliant of PvPers since the game launched.

PS. The golden vendor changes are amazing. Let's not bite the hand that feeds us.

I dont see a problem, gold is easy to farm in this game.
Would be great if they would add yellow jewelry from DLC dungeon sets (especially SPC), but thats about it.

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Huh? What have i missed?

I´ve tried a couple of pvp sets in the past. Never found them to be worthwhile.

I can put it another way to help you ---> Try more than one playstyle in Cyrodiil.

My debuff tank is currently wearing Fasalla's 5-piece as a support set ... my healer is currently wearing 5-piece Transmutation as a support set.

Though I could see how these two might be "overlooked" in a cavalier forums counter-post.

Only spoke about my main class which is magica sorc.

There´s not one pvp dropped set i´ve wanted to utilize on that char since 1.6 hit.

Qwazz wrote: »

Vet hard mode should drop gold jewelry.

thats how I see it aswell, vet HM should drop jewelry , form each set in the dungeon 1 Pcs in Gold

Yes gold isnt that much stronger and purple in most cases but it should be obtainable. Even if the dropprate is 1 pcs per vet HM run. There are 3 dungeonsets per dungeon and 2 different Jewelrypieces per set, so you'd have a chance of 1 out of 6 to get what you want. Imo thats good enough

CalmFury wrote: »

Dubhliam wrote: »

Qwazz wrote: »

Vet hard mode should drop gold jewelry.

IF AT ALL, gold jewelry should only drop if a pledge was done in no death speed run hard mode.

I was going to post that. This is actually an excellent idea. It would encourage again skillful gameplay for dungeons instead of just mindless completing them for keys.

Don't forget people would actually want the trinity setup instead od going for more DDs in the group.

CalmFury wrote: »

Did anyone see what was in the golden this and last week on the PTS?

Last weeks was, Rattlecage, Ysgramors, Viper and Vampires Cloak, (all rings). Don't know what this weeks are as no one as yet posted either here or on reddit.

I'd prefer to actually play the content I enjoy / want to play that be forced to farm something. For me farming / grinding ruins that aspect of the game for me.

So having purchases for AP or gold is fine by me, and i can run dungeons if i want.

I hear what you are saying re it being common. However u sure people would like more stuff being BOP they moan enough as it is.