Dear developers. How do you think I should play in PVP with such a ping (180-300 ms) ???

daniilpro · October 2017

I am most interested in the PVP component of the game. Because of ping, I can not resist players who have this indicator better. This is a technical problem that does not depend on me. A lot of players who suffer from the big response from the server! Kindly please take measures so that I can play with other players in the same conditions. How about the server closer to Russia?

Kneighbors · October 2017

O have a secret for you, having ping over 50 sux in PvE too. As a hardcore CS player I remember it wad clear already 15 years ago that online games optimal ping is below 50. This gives you maximum response and immersion. Ping around 100ms already a thing you can feel very well. 180 is a ping which significantly slows you down, while anything above 200 something that even the lowest of the casuals will feel discomfort with.

daniilpro · October 2017

Kneighbors wrote: »

O have a secret for you, having ping over 50 sux in PvE too. As a hardcore CS player I remember it wad clear already 15 years ago that online games optimal ping is below 50. This gives you maximum response and immersion. Ping around 100ms already a thing you can feel very well. 180 is a ping which significantly slows you down, while anything above 200 something that even the lowest of the casuals will feel discomfort with.

this is what I'm talking about! This not normal. I hope the developers are aware of this. Now I'm writing about this only myself, and in a few days the whole forum will talk about it!

NewBlacksmurf · October 2017

Maybe offer them more details tho in a ticket like

ISP
Connect type
Server
Platform
Time of day
Time zone
If on PC....machine details

daniilpro · October 2017

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Maybe offer them more details tho in a ticket like

ISP
Connect type
Server
Platform
Time of day
Time zone
If on PC....machine details

They do not need details. This is the problem of the whole region. All players who are east of Poland can not play normally.

idk · October 2017

Kneighbors wrote: »

O have a secret for you, having ping over 50 sux in PvE too. As a hardcore CS player I remember it wad clear already 15 years ago that online games optimal ping is below 50. This gives you maximum response and immersion. Ping around 100ms already a thing you can feel very well. 180 is a ping which significantly slows you down, while anything above 200 something that even the lowest of the casuals will feel discomfort with.

I've never had a ping to the game server near 50 in any MMO. 90-150 is what I see commonly and that has not been an issue with ESO or other games. I expect very few players have a ping about 50.

daniilpro · October 2017

idk wrote: »

Kneighbors wrote: »

O have a secret for you, having ping over 50 sux in PvE too. As a hardcore CS player I remember it wad clear already 15 years ago that online games optimal ping is below 50. This gives you maximum response and immersion. Ping around 100ms already a thing you can feel very well. 180 is a ping which significantly slows you down, while anything above 200 something that even the lowest of the casuals will feel discomfort with.

I've never had a ping to the game server near 50 in any MMO. 90-150 is what I see commonly and that has not been an issue with ESO or other games. I expect very few players have a ping about 50.

And you think this is normal?

NewBlacksmurf · October 2017

daniilpro wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Maybe offer them more details tho in a ticket like

ISP
Connect type
Server
Platform
Time of day
Time zone
If on PC....machine details

They do not need details. This is the problem of the whole region. All players who are east of Poland can not play normally.

Having some fun with you a bit.
If it’s everyone per your comment...wouldn’t that be normal?

On a serious note, maybe it’s a design or offering flaw but I don’t think it would hurt for a group of you all to send details in a ticket if said group hasn’t

TarrNokk · October 2017

daniilpro wrote: »

I am most interested in the PVP component of the game. Because of ping, I can not resist players who have this indicator better. This is a technical problem that does not depend on me. A lot of players who suffer from the big response from the server! Kindly please take measures so that I can play with other players in the same conditions. How about the server closer to Russia?

Developers are not interested in anyone's ping. They are interested in sells. AFAIK is Russia not the strongest buyer even more known as cheaters and bot accounts. For EU it is France and Germany who give the most cash, so a server in one of those would be realistic. But zos.... Lol

daniilpro · October 2017

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

daniilpro wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Maybe offer them more details tho in a ticket like

ISP
Connect type
Server
Platform
Time of day
Time zone
If on PC....machine details

They do not need details. This is the problem of the whole region. All players who are east of Poland can not play normally.

Having some fun with you a bit.
If it’s everyone per your comment...wouldn’t that be normal?

On a serious note, maybe it’s a design or offering flaw but I don’t think it would hurt for a group of you all to send details in a ticket if said group hasn’t

I understood you. A ticket is not a problem in fact, but such problems are solved with the support of the public, and not one request for technical support.

NewBlacksmurf · October 2017

idk wrote: »

Kneighbors wrote: »

O have a secret for you, having ping over 50 sux in PvE too. As a hardcore CS player I remember it wad clear already 15 years ago that online games optimal ping is below 50. This gives you maximum response and immersion. Ping around 100ms already a thing you can feel very well. 180 is a ping which significantly slows you down, while anything above 200 something that even the lowest of the casuals will feel discomfort with.

I've never had a ping to the game server near 50 in any MMO. 90-150 is what I see commonly and that has not been an issue with ESO or other games. I expect very few players have a ping about 50.

Only in college did I have such ping but that was years ago on a T3 wired connection in the days before widespread WiFi, YouTube, prior to social media.

As the OP comments I do wonder if it’s even something ZOS has any control over.

daniilpro · October 2017

TarrNokk wrote: »

daniilpro wrote: »

I am most interested in the PVP component of the game. Because of ping, I can not resist players who have this indicator better. This is a technical problem that does not depend on me. A lot of players who suffer from the big response from the server! Kindly please take measures so that I can play with other players in the same conditions. How about the server closer to Russia?

Developers are not interested in anyone's ping. They are interested in sells. AFAIK is Russia not the strongest buyer even more known as cheaters and bot accounts. For EU it is France and Germany who give the most cash, so a server in one of those would be realistic. But zos.... Lol

At the expense of bots and cheaters - this is an unfounded stereotype. Buyers and not be added until there are normal conditions for the game. Or will you buy a game that is full of lags, does it not work for you normally?

Horowonnoe · October 2017

daniilpro wrote: »

Kneighbors wrote: »

O have a secret for you, having ping over 50 sux in PvE too. As a hardcore CS player I remember it wad clear already 15 years ago that online games optimal ping is below 50. This gives you maximum response and immersion. Ping around 100ms already a thing you can feel very well. 180 is a ping which significantly slows you down, while anything above 200 something that even the lowest of the casuals will feel discomfort with.

this is what I'm talking about! This not normal. I hope the developers are aware of this. Now I'm writing about this only myself, and in a few days the whole forum will talk about it!

Some of us get that ping even living in California. : /
WTB ping below 200? This casual *points at self* is definitely feeling it.

xaraan · October 2017

God, I've never had less than low 100s in png in the best of circumstances in this game. (I have good internet and in a good area of the states as well) I wouldn't know what to do if my png was like 50 or less. It does suck in raids and such as well, can really throw off dps rotations, interrupts and the like as much as it sucks in pvp. I play with some out of country friends that play with over 200 constantly and I don't know how they even manage. Not sure how they would have total control over png though, but they do have control over server strain. You can feel problems just as bad in pvp as having horrible png when your are near a zerg fight, even if your png is ok.

NewBlacksmurf · October 2017

daniilpro wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

daniilpro wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Maybe offer them more details tho in a ticket like

ISP
Connect type
Server
Platform
Time of day
Time zone
If on PC....machine details

They do not need details. This is the problem of the whole region. All players who are east of Poland can not play normally.

Having some fun with you a bit.
If it’s everyone per your comment...wouldn’t that be normal?

On a serious note, maybe it’s a design or offering flaw but I don’t think it would hurt for a group of you all to send details in a ticket if said group hasn’t

I understood you. A ticket is not a problem in fact, but such problems are solved with the support of the public, and not one request for technical support.

Best wishes.
Outcry for Xbox one hasn’t been successful in mass efforts for this game.

deepseamk20b14_ESO · October 2017

I feel ya. When it's good it's great. When it's bad it's terrible. Can't get skills off, no chance of a rotation. Late heals. Last two nights have been really bad. Most likely my ISP though.

Bryong9ub17_ESO · October 2017

Fairly certain the Developers have no control over the servers or the location of them. They simply work on the game itself. But im sure they can pass the message along to the right department. But don't expect anything out of it. The cost of them buying a new server, finding a location for the server and then buying/renting that location is probably a little out of budget. Not to mention all the legal issues and permits needed for adding an extra server in another country.

The player base in Russia is probably not high enough to justify it.

I wouldn't get your hopes up.

Megabear · October 2017

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Maybe offer them more details tho in a ticket like

ISP
Connect type
Server
Platform
Time of day
Time zone
If on PC....machine details

ISP = Antenna
Connect type = wireless
Server = Ms. Tatiana
Platform = 2 inches
Time of day = currently 11:07am PST
Time zone = PST
Machine details = potato

Wolfthehunter · October 2017

My dear friend, you have a very good ping, my standard ping 400-600 (not in Cyrodiil), and when I enter to Cyrodiil, my ping often is 500+.
Dear Zenimax Online Studios, please do something with connection to do it better, or as the author wrote: «How about the server closer to Russia» PLEASE.

Rohamad_Ali · October 2017

The path to ZoS servers is so convoluted for some NA players they visit India , Germany and probably Antartica before reaching ZoS servers .

Bhaal5 · October 2017

Ping in this game can be a joke at the best of times

SirDopey · October 2017

I've never played the game with a ping of less than 280. Been on trial leaderboards, VMA leaderboards, Battleground leaderboards and have multiple characters in the top tier of Campaigns most months.

You just have to learn to play to your strengths......

Trashs1 · October 2017

um germany here, ping is usually on 35-80 but in cryo it ca spiked to 180+