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I just completed a normal dungeon of Tempest Island.
I saw a Vampire DK Tank wearing white color robe (it looked like light armor) and I was wondering WTF ?..Vampire. and wearing light armor ?
I mentioned this in the grp and she (DK tank) just LOL and did not reply further.
I looked like a clown after the first pull as she literally took no damage !
Throughout the instance (trash, groups of mobs, bosses does not matter) her HP was more than 95%.

She was 660 CP though.
My question how come light armor wearing DK (who has no mentionable self heal) and that too with vampire was able to tank whole instance without taking more than 5% of dmg on her HP ???

Can anyone explain ?
  • duagloth
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    vpy wrote: »
    I just completed a normal dungeon of Tempest Island.
    I saw a Vampire DK Tank wearing white color robe (it looked like light armor) and I was wondering WTF ?..Vampire. and wearing light armor ?
    I mentioned this in the grp and she (DK tank) just LOL and did not reply further.
    I looked like a clown after the first pull as she literally took no damage !
    Throughout the instance (trash, groups of mobs, bosses does not matter) her HP was more than 95%.

    She was 660 CP though.
    My question how come light armor wearing DK (who has no mentionable self heal) and that too with vampire was able to tank whole instance without taking more than 5% of dmg on her HP ???

    Can anyone explain ?

    You can tank a normal dungeon naked, as for the robe, it could have been a costume
    Edited by duagloth on October 2, 2017 5:57AM
  • SydneyGrey
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    DKs have fairly good self-heals. My main is a dragonknight, and I can go through a veteran dungeon and barely take damage, and don't really need a healer. I use mostly heavy armor, though (plus two light), and one monster set piece. Also, are you sure it wasn't a costume over their real armor?

    Edited by SydneyGrey on October 2, 2017 6:24AM
  • Narvuntien
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    Yeah i think it is a costume.

    They might be a Plauge Doctor + Green Pact(or Ebon) DK tank.. And just have huge amount of HP that damage from normal monsters don't move the needle.

    Did they use the igneous shield ability a lot? there is that as well.. shields.
    Edited by Narvuntien on October 2, 2017 6:02AM
  • Drummerx04
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    I pretty much stopped guessing anything about what defenses were deployed when I read "normal dungeon"

    But bottom line, most of the bosses and adds do pretty laughable damage even on vet. vet DLC dungeons are about the only place where enemies deal threatening damage to a well built tank
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  • bottleofsyrup
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    It really didn't occur to you that she was probably wearing a costume?
  • Jeremy
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    vpy wrote: »
    I just completed a normal dungeon of Tempest Island.
    I saw a Vampire DK Tank wearing white color robe (it looked like light armor) and I was wondering WTF ?..Vampire. and wearing light armor ?
    I mentioned this in the grp and she (DK tank) just LOL and did not reply further.
    I looked like a clown after the first pull as she literally took no damage !
    Throughout the instance (trash, groups of mobs, bosses does not matter) her HP was more than 95%.

    She was 660 CP though.
    My question how come light armor wearing DK (who has no mentionable self heal) and that too with vampire was able to tank whole instance without taking more than 5% of dmg on her HP ???

    Can anyone explain ?

    Well if she wan't using any self heals (as your post suggest) then she had to have been using damage shields. And I am told physical resistance doesn't affect the defense of those shields anyway so that could have been why they were in light armor as well.

    Plus it was a normal dungeon and she was CP 660... which was probably the biggest reason right there.
  • Crimsonwolf666
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    Normal dungeon is nothing. If you said a Veteran Trials run, especially VMoL or vHoF then I would be extremely suspicious.
  • Rohamad_Ali
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    Non Vet damage is really low . Some people just solo them . I do in light armor bit on NB .
  • Ozstryker
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    Sounds like a decent tank is all, good resistances, block/interrupt, positioning... and probably wearing a costume....
  • Verbal_Earthworm
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    my breton sorc soloed that dungeon by accident, i mistook it for the public dungeon, it's that easy.
  • starkerealm
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    If you have vague situational awareness, Normal Tempest Island is really easy on the tank. Normal dungeons in general are, but Tempest in particular. Last time I ran it was on my Imperial Sorc, and she barely took any damage the entire run, none of that was severe enough to need the healer, which is good, because the healer I was running it with was (and probably still is) very confused about how that role works.
  • FloppyTouch
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    Shield plus embers plus inhale I do the same on normal but I can solo them too

    Also you say mdk have no self heals? They have a ton of very strong heals built into their attacks. Almost everything heals a dk XD
    Edited by FloppyTouch on October 2, 2017 9:52AM
  • Avnr
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    normal dungeon ? i can sleep walk to the last boss with dk , spawn here and there heal ability
    vet dungeon , just spawn faster:)

    i remember ICP was hard hard even on normal mode , now you can solo that dungeon



  • raj72616a
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    look at the health.
    under 20k it's probably all medium or light.
    over 30k it's probably all heavy.
    over 60k it's a special build for damage shield.
  • Flameheart
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    Normal dungeons ? Sadly I have to go veteran with my chars using a 75% tank / 25% DD build to get my slayer achievements solo done.

    PS: The tank might have used a costume.
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  • Destruent
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    raj72616a wrote: »
    look at the health.
    under 20k it's probably all medium or light.
    over 30k it's probably all heavy.
    over 60k it's a special build for damage shield.

    hard to estimate with that...i run around with nearly 40k HP when tanking with 6 medium (alkosh/powerfull assault)...
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  • paulsimonps
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    Yea you take next to no damage in Normal, nothing special going on here. Anyone should be able to tank it with incredible ease.
  • ItsMeToo
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    That person is in PvP a lot and 1vsX and hardly dies. Just stands there doing nothing but flap flap and ults. If you start range attacking and don't get flap flap and kill yourself, a group of 10+ can finally kill them. Also, having some good melee heavy hitters plus poison debuffs helps a lot too.
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  • FloppyTouch
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    ItsMeToo wrote: »
    That person is in PvP a lot and 1vsX and hardly dies. Just stands there doing nothing but flap flap and ults. If you start range attacking and don't get flap flap and kill yourself, a group of 10+ can finally kill them. Also, having some good melee heavy hitters plus poison debuffs helps a lot too.

    This has nothing to do with pvp
  • ItsMeToo
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    ItsMeToo wrote: »
    That person is in PvP a lot and 1vsX and hardly dies. Just stands there doing nothing but flap flap and ults. If you start range attacking and don't get flap flap and kill yourself, a group of 10+ can finally kill them. Also, having some good melee heavy hitters plus poison debuffs helps a lot too.

    This has nothing to do with pvp

    So... it's still the same person and good information.
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  • paulsimonps
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    ItsMeToo wrote: »
    ItsMeToo wrote: »
    That person is in PvP a lot and 1vsX and hardly dies. Just stands there doing nothing but flap flap and ults. If you start range attacking and don't get flap flap and kill yourself, a group of 10+ can finally kill them. Also, having some good melee heavy hitters plus poison debuffs helps a lot too.

    This has nothing to do with pvp

    So... it's still the same person and good information.

    And you came to this conclusion how? This is not a PvP Discussion and since its REALLY REALLY REALLY EASY to do this as a Tank in a Normal Dungeon, it can be literally any competent Tank on the OPs server.
  • SpearDusk
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    Probably a costume which hides the armor a person is wearing.
    Good thing it wasnt the bath towels costume then lol
  • Witar
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    Good tanks can pretty much do the same in vet hm version too. Soloed the last boss on mag sorc when i did it with randoms and they "suddenly" died at the beginning of the fight :)
    Edited by Witar on October 2, 2017 10:27AM
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  • Yarlenzey
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    Doesn't everyone wear costumes? As a strategy?
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  • Aisle9
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    Yarlenzey wrote: »
    Doesn't everyone wear costumes? As a strategy?

    Or, maybe, to cover the fugly armor ? Just a hypothesis
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  • Garwulf
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    Aisle9 wrote: »
    Yarlenzey wrote: »
    Doesn't everyone wear costumes? As a strategy?

    Or, maybe, to cover the fugly armor ? Just a hypothesis

    If ZoS allowed you to change the look of set armour then I suspect many would not bother so much with costumes. I guess we are stuck with costumes as ZoS is unlikely to want to remove any desire for costumes.
  • HatchetHaro
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    I've tanked normal dungeons completely naked. It's really no big deal.
    Edited by HatchetHaro on October 2, 2017 1:11PM
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  • Aisle9
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    vpy wrote: »
    I just completed a normal dungeon of Tempest Island.
    I saw a Vampire DK Tank wearing white color robe (it looked like light armor) and I was wondering WTF ?..Vampire. and wearing light armor ?
    I mentioned this in the grp and she (DK tank) just LOL and did not reply further.
    I looked like a clown after the first pull as she literally took no damage !
    Throughout the instance (trash, groups of mobs, bosses does not matter) her HP was more than 95%.

    She was 660 CP though.
    My question how come light armor wearing DK (who has no mentionable self heal) and that too with vampire was able to tank whole instance without taking more than 5% of dmg on her HP ???

    Can anyone explain ?

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    Edited by Aisle9 on October 2, 2017 11:32AM
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  • Dubhliam
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    Let's see...
    I take 100 damage in a normal dungeon. As a vampire I'll get 25% more damage from fire.
    Tempest island...

    Lightning strikes start fires. Right?

    That 25 more fire damage just might kill me.
    Better not.

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  • GreenhaloX
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    vpy wrote: »
    I just completed a normal dungeon of Tempest Island.
    I saw a Vampire DK Tank wearing white color robe (it looked like light armor) and I was wondering WTF ?..Vampire. and wearing light armor ?
    I mentioned this in the grp and she (DK tank) just LOL and did not reply further.
    I looked like a clown after the first pull as she literally took no damage !
    Throughout the instance (trash, groups of mobs, bosses does not matter) her HP was more than 95%.

    She was 660 CP though.
    My question how come light armor wearing DK (who has no mentionable self heal) and that too with vampire was able to tank whole instance without taking more than 5% of dmg on her HP ???

    Can anyone explain ?

    My man.. that is what a tank is built for. It doesn't matter what race or hp level, a tank is built with very high spell/physical resistance in the higher 20s and even 30k bracket. It is built to take and withstand high amount of incoming damages; particularly a DK tank. A DK tank just have some good damage mitigating passives and buffs. You can throw on the Volatile or Hardened Armor and get additional 5k spell and physical resistance added on. Plus, the higher hp a DK tank has, the better the Igneous Shield gets for the tank and allies. Yeah, certain things have been nerfed that tweaked tank down a bit, but it's still strong (although not as strong as before.)

    I have 2 tanks (1 stam and the other majicka) among my arsenal of toons, and although, the weapon/spell damage aren't all that strong, I can still practically solo all PvE contents (minus Stoneskins and the Mad Ogre wb pits; I need just one more other toon for these two. Ha ha) because of the damage mitigating passives and abilities afforded to a tank. Oh, don't get me wrong. A tank is not at all indestructible (if built right, very close to it, though,) and it will take damages, particularly when soloing. However, a tank just have good hp and resources regen capabilities, especially with HA passives. The fight may take longer, but (aside from trials), you can practically solo any PvE contents, even vet dungeons, with a well-built tank and a bit of know-how.

    So, this vamp DK you're mentioning. First, it sounds like the Black Hand Robe costume dyed in all white; many are wearing that in all white. Second, yes, being maxed CP, you tend to have more CP to throw on the Champion tree and its branches; thus, further having better damage mitigation and resources managing abilities. Since it is a vamp, it is likely a majicka DK tank with higher amount of majicka pool. With all vamp, doesn't matter what class, they got that blood sucking ability that wreaks havoc on the target stealing the life force and rejuvenating the vamp's hp. Dammit, I forgot the name of that skill. It's been a while since I was a vamp. Damn, it's the only skill worthwhile for a vamp. So, I'm sure, like all vamp, this vamp tank is probably spamming that to keep its hp from depleting. It's like every time a vamp takes any damage, bamm, they hit the target with that skill and rapidly boost back up their health. However, the vamp DK really doesn't need to spam that bloodsucking skill; particularly in a normal dungeon. That could also be a reason why its hp is seemingly not depleting.

    Majority of tanks are also HA-based, but there are a few hybrid types that may sport MA, but overall, it is HA. You're not going to see a tank wearing mostly LA. Ha ha.. suicidal there. I'm sure the vamp tank has HA. A tank, with HA built in general, just have good damage mitigating abilities; particularly a MagDK tank. Spam Burning Embers and you're hardly going to run out of hp. Well, Burning Embers is mostly effective for MagDK, since it's majicka-based. Still works fine for a stam-based tank, but not as effective. However, why are you even complaining about it?! The vamp tank is in your team; it's not like it's in PvP and the tank is your enemy. You should be glad that the tank is as capable as this vamp tank is. You guys should have rolled through the dungeon very easily. Also, tanks like that make rolling through higher end endgames more easily.



    Edited by GreenhaloX on October 2, 2017 12:18PM
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