Should Miat's (attack alert) be allowed?

Juhasow · September 2017

laced wrote: »

Juhasow wrote: »

ShadowMole25 wrote: »

Juhasow wrote: »

jcaceresw wrote: »

Like other said, the functionality provided for such add-on is considered cheating. Maybe I am part of the 0.00000001% who do not use it because of that reason. Too sad ZOS have allowed it...
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There is lack of logic here. If developers allowed it then it cannot be considered cheating because it's developer who decides what is cheating and what isnt.

Also if we talk about functionality. Miat add-on gives You graphic information that some negative thing will hit You so at the end You dont have to look around so much to see it. Isnt that almost the same as buff tracker which graphicly informs You that some negative effects was applied on You or that you applied that on enemie (also with timer and debuffs name) , so You dont have to look around that much to see buffs/debuffs animation on You on Your enemies ?
If Miat is considered cheating then buff tracking is considered cheating also despite the fact developers allowing it.

I don't like or use Buff Tracking either. I only use Kill Counter to see my KDR and FTC to redo my health, mag, and stam bars so I can see percentages and to see my DPS/HPS in a small little box in the top left corner.

Oh god that's cheating. Normally You would have to note all that informations on paper and watch resource bars normally

Or just use basic logic and reasoning in yourhead? No? asking too much? xD

I strongly reccomend You to open dictionary and look for word "sarcasm" . No ? Asking too much ?

pzschrek · September 2017

No

Once I installed it, I went from seeing gankblades as an infuriating, game-ruining class and now see them as free AP.

Part of this is because I got a lot better, but if I'm honest, a big part of it is because I got Miat's. I hate getting ganked even more than I hate getting zerg-rolled, so it made the game vastly more fun for me personally. It makes solo-running to an AD keep playable. Now I almost always have time to throw up a shield before the burst hits. And I usually kill him back, and at worst he gets away and I'm still alive. Justice, you dastardly sneak.

That said, this is not how it should be, in all honesty. But everyone else runs it, so I must just to remain competitive.

klink012 · September 2017

No

Absolutely not. It's the 2nd game breaking add-on this cheater has created. I hope you all remember the other add-on where it allowed you to see health bars of stealthed enemy players within like a 30m radius.

Get rid of the add-on. Also, for the sake of the community and keeping the games pvp health surviving on life support, ban Miat as well for creating and using these.

Jade1986 · September 2017

No

Juhasow wrote: »

laced wrote: »

Juhasow wrote: »

ShadowMole25 wrote: »

Juhasow wrote: »

jcaceresw wrote: »

Like other said, the functionality provided for such add-on is considered cheating. Maybe I am part of the 0.00000001% who do not use it because of that reason. Too sad ZOS have allowed it...
.

There is lack of logic here. If developers allowed it then it cannot be considered cheating because it's developer who decides what is cheating and what isnt.

Also if we talk about functionality. Miat add-on gives You graphic information that some negative thing will hit You so at the end You dont have to look around so much to see it. Isnt that almost the same as buff tracker which graphicly informs You that some negative effects was applied on You or that you applied that on enemie (also with timer and debuffs name) , so You dont have to look around that much to see buffs/debuffs animation on You on Your enemies ?
If Miat is considered cheating then buff tracking is considered cheating also despite the fact developers allowing it.

I don't like or use Buff Tracking either. I only use Kill Counter to see my KDR and FTC to redo my health, mag, and stam bars so I can see percentages and to see my DPS/HPS in a small little box in the top left corner.

Oh god that's cheating. Normally You would have to note all that informations on paper and watch resource bars normally

Or just use basic logic and reasoning in yourhead? No? asking too much? xD

I strongly reccomend You to open dictionary and look for word "sarcasm" . No ? Asking too much ?

Good lord, was I high when I wrote that? xD

Jade1986 · September 2017

No

I also like to note, that it is clear that the vast majority of people do not want this add on, or any add ons like this in the game. Seriously. 240+ to 40.

montiferus · September 2017

Just another reason why I laugh when I see people say PC master race. You guys have every crutch in the game. Why even bother playing?

Sedare · September 2017

No

Miat's addon is a cancer. It is the definition of cheating or a cheat: act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage, especially in a game or examination.

This add-on should not be allowed. Every day I see people, or pre-cogs as I call them, blocking, dodge rolling and any other things heavy attacks, lethal arrows, etc. I even block cancel these attacks and can see them dodging or blocking with ample time before the cast would have concluded.

ZoS needs to remove this add-on and any add-on that gives like abilities asap. The fact they haven't speaks volumes that they don't care one iota about the rampant cheating going on in this game and somehow this add-on passes muster and is approved.

I'd love to use harsher language, but I'm sure I'd get banned.

Bottom line, I'm sick of this crap. I've enjoyed this game from day one but this sanctioned or tacit consent of cheating is beyond the pale.

Beardimus · September 2017

No

Cheat cheat cheat

Jade1986 · September 2017

No

Sedare wrote: »

Miat's addon is a cancer. It is the definition of cheating or a cheat: act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage, especially in a game or examination.

This add-on should not be allowed. Every day I see people, or pre-cogs as I call them, blocking, dodge rolling and any other things heavy attacks, lethal arrows, etc. I even block cancel these attacks and can see them dodging or blocking with ample time before the cast would have concluded.

ZoS needs to remove this add-on and any add-on that gives like abilities asap. The fact they haven't speaks volumes that they don't care one iota about the rampant cheating going on in this game and somehow this add-on passes muster and is approved.

I'd love to use harsher language, but I'm sure I'd get banned.

Bottom line, I'm sick of this crap. I've enjoyed this game from day one but this sanctioned or tacit consent of cheating is beyond the pale.

Honestly pvp will die very quickly if this stuff is left unchecked. I play an archer main and i can tell you my pvp experience has become annoying AF because everyone is dodging before i even launch my attack

Sedare · September 2017

No

laced wrote: »

Honestly pvp will die very quickly if this stuff is left unchecked. I play an archer main and i can tell you my pvp experience has become annoying AF because everyone is dodging before i even launch my attack

I too play an archer and the amount of people just holding block or dodge rolling before an attack is resolves or is cancelled is beyond ridiculous.

Stealth attacks have a counter: detect pots, radiant/mage light, the fighter's guild equivalent, set pieces, etc. Plus everyone can hide and do a stealth attack.

You cannot counter someone who knows the attack is coming before it is even finished being made. That is the definition of bloody cheating: an unfair advantage.

It's asinine and ZoS needs to ban the add-on and functionality.

usmcjdking · September 2017

I honestly think this add-on makes for more compelling gameplay albeit I don't use it. No more free frags/dizzies on my opponents.

With that said it's getting to the point where the vitriol towards this add-on is starting to become overwhelming for a player health perspective. ZOS needs to be blatantly clear on the position of Miat's and deal with whatever player backlash reprocussions appropriately.

technohic · September 2017

No

CreamedPieYum wrote: »

No, and to all the idiots who say "It's not for you to judge how someone plays"..WRONG. That add on is cheating, no need to sugarcoat it with fancy terms in order to minimize it.

The app outright destroys the whole purpose of Nightblade. Magelight or pots is one thing, but that add gives a stam character with huge stam pool the ability to dodge every single incoming attack. It's cheating. The fact that it TELLS you is cheating, perception on the player's part is not.

The addon is against the TOS, It's just that ZOS thought it was harmless and did not realize the potential it has on combat. I guarantee it will be revoked, once it's brought to the admin of the game for review.

Edit - They've already looked at this and still allowed it? Maybe that whole "everybody uses it so it's all even anyways" is the reason.

Think they tried to cut back by not showing some APIs but the ones that tip off snipe are also important for other reasons.

Jade1986 · September 2017

No

Sedare wrote: »

laced wrote: »

Honestly pvp will die very quickly if this stuff is left unchecked. I play an archer main and i can tell you my pvp experience has become annoying AF because everyone is dodging before i even launch my attack

I too play an archer and the amount of people just holding block or dodge rolling before an attack is resolves or is cancelled is beyond ridiculous.

Stealth attacks have a counter: detect pots, radiant/mage light, the fighter's guild equivalent, set pieces, etc. Plus everyone can hide and do a stealth attack.

You cannot counter someone who knows the attack is coming before it is even finished being made. That is the definition of bloody cheating: an unfair advantage.

It's asinine and ZoS needs to ban the add-on and functionality.

My thoughts exactly. I mean the bow got screwed over enough in this game, this is really the nail in the coffin though. It boggles my mind that this is allowed. You literally CANNOT counter this addon in any way as an archer.

Jade1986 · September 2017

No

usmcjdking wrote: »

I honestly think this add-on makes for more compelling gameplay albeit I don't use it. No more free frags/dizzies on my opponents.

With that said it's getting to the point where the vitriol towards this add-on is starting to become overwhelming for a player health perspective. ZOS needs to be blatantly clear on the position of Miat's and deal with whatever player backlash reprocussions appropriately.

It is pretty clear that the majority are furious this kind of thing is allowed. Look at the poll, ask around in zone chat , it is pretty much hated across the board.

cairo_x · September 2017

I'm really disappointed on how the developers or whoever is responsible to take care of it. It's clearly an attempt to cheat the game, disrupting certain builds and classes. I noticed how often people just dodge crystal fragments prevent heavy attacks so easily. And just today I learned about this add on.

The developers nerfed certain sets to encourage more ability than just prox sets. But yet, by allowing this horrible add on, you are NOT doing any good and instead of prevailing ability in game, you're failing to improve the game.

My suggestion? Two actually.
1) Make people to PAY for add on like that, so you guys get really RICH. At least they will know they suck at the end to be needed to pay for that add on.
2) Remove it. It's more than clear the majority do not approve that add on.

Valencer · September 2017

You dont need this addon to dodge crystal frags and snipes. Christ, talk about making a mountain out of a molehill.

DDuke · September 2017

No

Valencer wrote: »

You dont need this addon to dodge crystal frags and snipes. Christ, talk about making a mountain out of a molehill.

You can't always see frags/snipes coming though, e.g. if they come from out of your FoV (or from sneak).

I've been using this addon for a while.

I don't want to, but since it gives a huge combat advantage (evident from the moment you start using it) it'd be foolish not to.

cairo_x · September 2017

with complaiigs

Valencer wrote: »

You dont need this addon to dodge crystal frags and snipes. Christ, talk about making a mountain out of a molehill.

You're wrong, it does. I was stealth, waiting for someone to res his buddy. When he started, I channeled from a distance and he just dodge it even without seeing me. When I asked him about how, he told me. And the same was confirmed from others from the zone.

Valencer · September 2017

If someone tries to stealth snipe you you can usually hear a distinct sound play. Again, you dont need the addon for it.
Not sure but it's probably the same for crystal frag (why would a sorc even try to frag you from stealth...?)

Unless of course the sound bugs out and doesnt play. Then this addon does help, but is the addon the problem here then?

cairo_x · September 2017

http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info1545-MiatsPVPAlerts.html

Here is the proper link of the add on.

Enjoy the features it gives.

Jade1986 · September 2017

No

cairo_x wrote: »

http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info1545-MiatsPVPAlerts.html

Here is the proper link of the add on.

Enjoy the features it gives.

Now that I read through it , that addon makes me want to vomit even more. Talk about hand holding of epic proportions. Seriously, this crap needs to go.

Jade1986 · September 2017

No

Valencer wrote: »

If someone tries to stealth snipe you you can usually hear a distinct sound play. Again, you dont need the addon for it.
Not sure but it's probably the same for crystal frag (why would a sorc even try to frag you from stealth...?)

Unless of course the sound bugs out and doesnt play. Then this addon does help, but is the addon the problem here then?

You will not hear that from 28+ meters away unless your game is turned up ridiculously loud. This add on pretty much gives the finger to anyone who is a ranged class. It lowers the bar so far you dont even need to think anymore when getting attacked by a ranged build. And considering there is 0 counter to it, it should not, and most people agree with me here, be allowed. Even ZoS said from the get go things like this would not be allowed. But here we are.