oh noes! The economy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If someone wants to buy gold they are going to do it, and there's really not much they can do to stop it.

There are alot of people with jobs and disposable income that do not want to farm gold or work the auction house. Is it right? I don't know. The better question is do I care? And the answer to that is a resounding no.

Oh and another thing, the only demographic that matters is people with money to burn. You think college kids working at banana republic are buying crowns? You think hardcore gamers are the ones keeping the lights on at ZoS? Guess again.

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

I don't care that someone is buying gold per se. I just care that it encourages more botters.

Games like GW2 allow you to buy gold with cash, so it's really not a big deal (as long as you can't buy gameplay-breaking things with gold). I never understood the appeal though. Part of the fun of playing an MMO is getting rich by learning the economy.

You will never get rid of bots, because you will never get rid of the market and demand for their services.

Also, ZoS does not want to lose players that are willing to spend disposable income. They will go after the botters, there will be a purge, then the bots will be back in a week and nothing will have changed.

I'm only saying this because bots and people buying gold have been around since MMOs were fetuses.

Serjustin19 wrote: »

Reminder Gold Farmers Are People Too

who can't get a real job, live in a basement that is probably their parents, and have no life since they grind on the game 12 to 16 hours a day. They are not sophisticated players, they know some grind spots or can run some macros.

In short, they are scum who ruin the game for everyone who plays legitimately, and make the game less than it can be for lazy slobs who have more money than sense, probably because they still use mommy's credit card.

In case your wondering I hate gold sellers. And gold buyers are even worse.

The players buying gold are probably also the ones buying whole lots of crowns and crown crates... so ZOS banning them would be "cutting off their noses to spite their face"... so I don't think ferreting out gold buyers are at the top of their priority list...

Also

I could give two schlitz about people buying gold... my whole mantra is play the game the way you want...

I've got a sort of love/hate relationship with 'legit' gold selling. Legit meaning its done through the developer/publisher of the game and not against the rules. Both WoW and EQ do this. And on one hand its a great way for an old vet who took a break for a while to get back into the swing of things and be competitive. They've got the skill and experience, they're just behind a few updates.

But I've seen atrocious things happen with it.

WoW didn't have this problem since they had their tokens only bought and sold for gold on their AH through a fixed price (player can't alter it). The more that are sold, the more the price goes down, the more that are bought, the more it goes up. It balances itself out. If you were to sell a token, the system would buy it from you, and poof the token if no one bought one. Conversely if you bought one despite no one actually selling, it'd create one. And if I'm not mistaken if you buy one off the AH, its used immediately. Not entirely sure though.

EQ made it an actual tradeable item among players. On a progression server its not uncommon to see a Flowing Black Silk sash go for 3kr. Or 3x $17.99

Except that's where it gets bad. Its not actually costing people $53.97. You see a large amount of krono were purchased, but not consumed, they are a new currency. Instead of gold farmers farming platinum. They farm kronos instead. They get high ticket items and get kronos for them. They then turn around and sell the Kronos for like $9.99 to a third party site who then offers them for $14.99.

Surprisingly, this doesn't hurt a server economy too much. You think it'd trash it. But it doesn't. No.. it does something far worse. If you want items from non-instanced content, you're not able to get them yourself. You HAVE to go through the market for them. This is because the farmers camp the high value item locations.

So your regular trash mobs are running around as normal and you can level off that. But getting gear is not easy or feasible depending on what it is.

With all that said.. I don't see how anyone would need to do this in ESO. The economy while working, isn't that important. You can easily get gold from dungeons and dolmens. I mean I got about 30k running a few dolmens trying to knock out 43-45 on a new character the other day. And that was less than an hour or so.

I'd imagine most of you who are better about farming gold could get enough for the largest homes in about a week or so. Maybe less. A cp160+ will be getting items they could just sell on the traders for more than a vendor gives.

I don't really care. I also don't report anyone who tells me they have bought gold. Not worth my time.

If there is money to be made doing this people will sell gold.

If there is an advantage to having gold people will buy it.

REPORT them. It's financial fraud.

Yeah it's awesome made enough to get Destiny 100€ bundle in 2 days, selling runs tho not gold.

My guild is already making groups to carry through Clockwork City for 50€

That's how gaming is nowadays, everything is for sale.

I feel like people who buy game currency for real money are the same people who fall for internet scams and pyramid schemes - looking for the fast and easy answers to get things without putting any effort in. Maybe I'm wrong.

Turelus wrote: »

Kay1 wrote: »

Yeah it's awesome made enough to get Destiny 100€ bundle in 2 days, selling runs tho not gold.

My guild is already making groups to carry through Clockwork City for 50€

That's how gaming is nowadays, everything is for sale.

Erm... did you just admit to selling in game services for this game on its forums.

Yup, this game is dead anyways so a 72h ban is not gonna change my life