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LET US BUY TRANSMUTATION CRYSTALS WITH AP (LOTS OBVIOUSLY)

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For people who do not do dungeons or trials and are strictly in PVP now. I feel like this change needs to include an option for PVP orientated players the same way the Golden Vendor offers PVE only items.

Maybe buy for 1 million AP once a week?(AS SUGGESTED BY COMMENTS BELOW, END OF CAMPAIGN REWARDS IS A BETTER IDEA IMO) IDK, i'm not into going back to do more PVE. Yes i know thats my problem!
Edited by ThoraxtheDark on September 6, 2017 3:33PM
  • Takes-No-Prisoner
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    As some one who PvPs I mostly agree. However, getting transmutation crystals via rewards of the worthy, end of campaign rewards would be a nice gesture.
  • Khenarthi
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    Or let us buy the things with Master Writ vouchers? That would be awesome...
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  • Turelus
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    As some one who PvPs I mostly agree. However, getting transmutation crystals via rewards of the worthy, end of campaign rewards would be a nice gesture.
    End of campaign rewards with more for each placement in the leaderboard tiers could be something to help push people to compete for the top on single characters again.

    If you keep it to only the gold/purple tier it also means more work for people who want to get them on every alt.
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  • Takes-No-Prisoner
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    Turelus wrote: »
    As some one who PvPs I mostly agree. However, getting transmutation crystals via rewards of the worthy, end of campaign rewards would be a nice gesture.
    End of campaign rewards with more for each placement in the leaderboard tiers could be something to help push people to compete for the top on single characters again.

    If you keep it to only the gold/purple tier it also means more work for people who want to get them on every alt.

    Yup! I was thinking the same thing. More crystals to the guy who gets the better ranking slot. Though, we need to not forget about people who boost using friends on other alliance colors. This is still a problem-- least on PS4 NA. It's really easy to abuse that.
  • GrumpyDuckling
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    ZOS was so close on making this a good system. They should have just made weapons/armor malleable. If you have specific traits unlocked, then your weapons and armor can be changed, freely between them, whenever we want, to match the content that we are doing.

    That would get rid of this stupid having to carry around two types of armor for two different types of content problem. I hate that I have to carry two sets of the same armor (Impen for PVP, Divines for PVE).
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    Turelus wrote: »
    As some one who PvPs I mostly agree. However, getting transmutation crystals via rewards of the worthy, end of campaign rewards would be a nice gesture.
    End of campaign rewards with more for each placement in the leaderboard tiers could be something to help push people to compete for the top on single characters again.

    If you keep it to only the gold/purple tier it also means more work for people who want to get them on every alt.

    Yup! I was thinking the same thing. More crystals to the guy who gets the better ranking slot. Though, we need to not forget about people who boost using friends on other alliance colors. This is still a problem-- least on PS4 NA. It's really easy to abuse that.
    That has been confirmed against ToS now though, so if people have evidence it can be submitted and bans handed out.
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  • supaskrub
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    Turelus wrote: »
    As some one who PvPs I mostly agree. However, getting transmutation crystals via rewards of the worthy, end of campaign rewards would be a nice gesture.
    End of campaign rewards with more for each placement in the leaderboard tiers could be something to help push people to compete for the top on single characters again.

    If you keep it to only the gold/purple tier it also means more work for people who want to get them on every alt.

    Good call, end of campaign rewards is far better, Thing is right now nobody knows what the drop rate on the transmutation crystals is going to be, but its a fair call to say that they are not going to be raining from the sky for pve'ers. They drop by good old rng so WHY should pvp'ers just be able to go out and spend AP on them, its stupid. Let them drop for pvp also but as per your suggestion by end of campaign rewards but for cp enabled pvp only.
  • Takes-No-Prisoner
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    Turelus wrote: »
    Turelus wrote: »
    As some one who PvPs I mostly agree. However, getting transmutation crystals via rewards of the worthy, end of campaign rewards would be a nice gesture.
    End of campaign rewards with more for each placement in the leaderboard tiers could be something to help push people to compete for the top on single characters again.

    If you keep it to only the gold/purple tier it also means more work for people who want to get them on every alt.

    Yup! I was thinking the same thing. More crystals to the guy who gets the better ranking slot. Though, we need to not forget about people who boost using friends on other alliance colors. This is still a problem-- least on PS4 NA. It's really easy to abuse that.
    That has been confirmed against ToS now though, so if people have evidence it can be submitted and bans handed out.

    Ok, while I have only heard rumors on my end, I know someone who knows some information about someone abusing this. I will pass this information along to them. Thanks :) I don't like people boosting like this, it's very anti-competitive play.
    Edited by Takes-No-Prisoner on September 6, 2017 3:33PM
  • Beardimus
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    Great shout actually. maybe even for Tel Var too, help all the currencies mean something more.
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  • Takes-No-Prisoner
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    Beardimus wrote: »
    Great shout actually. maybe even for Tel Var too, help all the currencies mean something more.

    I would be down for this. We have the alchemy satchels which I absolutely love. I would welcome that!
  • SanTii.92
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    How about with gold? Or tel vars, that would be nice.
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  • Feanor
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    I think gold tier rewards would be a good solution. The purple tier is easily reachable if you play a couple of hours PvP per week, especially on buff campaigns. Having your char within the top 2% is harder and avoids it being a straight handout. The players who prefer PvP reach this threshold easily anyway.
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  • Takes-No-Prisoner
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    Feanor wrote: »
    I think gold tier rewards would be a good solution. The purple tier is easily reachable if you play a couple of hours PvP per week, especially on buff campaigns. Having your char within the top 2% is harder and avoids it being a straight handout. The players who prefer PvP reach this threshold easily anyway.

    True, but, not everyone can PvP that hard or as long as the guy who can stay on 24 hours a day defending his Emperorship ya know? Needs to have some more accessibility to get guy who can only really play on weekends and some week nights.
  • NewBlacksmurf
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    Why not just ask that they drop from kills and PvP quests?
    Seems odd to jump to reducing commodities when PvE is a result from kills.
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  • MissBizz
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    As someone who doesn't PvP (except during events)... I think there should be a PvP way to get them. Transmutation is definitely something that is directed at the whole community, not just PvE.

    Not sure what would be best, as I don't PvP much, and we still don't know what drop rates are etc. to know how often they should drop - or more so, how available (or not) they are.
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  • DeadlyRecluse
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    Depends a lot on the drop rate, imo. If it's like a 50 percent drop chance on completion of a vet dungeon, I don't think an AP path is necessary (though of course, it would be appreciated.

    I'm a little worried it'll be more like a 5 percent drop chance, tbh.
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  • Biro123
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    Why not just ask that they drop from kills and PvP quests?
    Seems odd to jump to reducing commodities when PvE is a result from kills.

    PVPers don't really do quests - cos its still PVE..

    I'm liking the other ideas though. Whatever the mechanism is, it should be even.. If an average PVEer can average X stones per evening of doing dungeons, An average PVPer should average the same amount from an evening of Pvping.
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    Feanor wrote: »
    I think gold tier rewards would be a good solution. The purple tier is easily reachable if you play a couple of hours PvP per week, especially on buff campaigns. Having your char within the top 2% is harder and avoids it being a straight handout. The players who prefer PvP reach this threshold easily anyway.

    True, but, not everyone can PvP that hard or as long as the guy who can stay on 24 hours a day defending his Emperorship ya know? Needs to have some more accessibility to get guy who can only really play on weekends and some week nights.

    The top 2% are normally the best 40 players or so per alliance depending on campaign population for the alliance. During the PvP event I did get gold rewards on rank 68 though still. Nothing to do with having to be on 24/7.
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  • TequilaFire
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    Staying up in the top 2% does require playing everyday.
    Yesterday I was #8 on the EP PS4 Vivec NA when I went to sleep, when I woke up I was down to #50.
    My next session I will climb back up but for those that can't log in every day it is much harder.
    Edited by TequilaFire on September 6, 2017 4:11PM
  • Kuramas9tails
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    ESO Market Crash 2017 on the way.
    Edited by Kuramas9tails on September 6, 2017 4:11PM
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    • SanTii.92
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      We haven't yet heard of the crystals are bop or not. Just saying.
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      Staying up in the top 2% does require playing everyday.
      Yesterday I was #8 on the EP PS4 Vivec NA when I went to sleep, when I woke up I was down to #50.
      My next session I will climb back up but for those that can't log in every day it is much harder.

      You have to put the effort in to get rewards, just because someone doesn't play everyday should be no excuse for moulding the drop system around them as that will make it ridiculously easy to acquire the crystals for people who are indeed logging in everyday.

      If people can't find the time to put in the effort then they will have to empty their pockets in the guild stores if the crystals are tradeable.
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      I would like to buy them for 1,000 AP/Tel-Var each in the assortment vendor. Also, to get them randomly from rewards of the worthy and end of campaign.
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      jcaceresw wrote: »
      I would like to buy them for 1,000 AP/Tel-Var each in the assortment vendor. Also, to get them randomly from rewards of the worthy and end of campaign.

      The bit I have bolded is a joke right?...

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      Yes +.

      Im already pretty fed up with having to do tons of pve content to just get a viable pvp-build these days.

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      ESO Market Crash 2017 on the way.

      And most of us can't wait!

      There should be a way for PVP players to get the Transmutation Stones (TStones) without doing dungeons - but I am definitely against having an AP exchange for them.

      AP is a joke.

      edit for readability
      Edited by parkham on September 6, 2017 4:53PM

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    • Oakmontowls_ESO
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      supaskrub wrote: »
      jcaceresw wrote: »
      I would like to buy them for 1,000 AP/Tel-Var each in the assortment vendor. Also, to get them randomly from rewards of the worthy and end of campaign.

      The bit I have bolded is a joke right?...

      We don't know how many we need in order to change traits, for all we know it will be like cp160 mats and need like 100 of them.
    • Thealteregoroman
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      ...its pretty obvious this will be in the crown store.
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    • wildbear247
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      Yes please some way for PvPrs to get these transmutation crystals would be great. But 1 million AP seems a little steep. As a guy that mostly plays on the weekends & mostly runs solo, around 500k AP seems more reasonable to me. My AP goes fast due to buying monster gear from the gold vendor, camps, etc.
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    • jcaceresw
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      supaskrub wrote: »
      jcaceresw wrote: »
      I would like to buy them for 1,000 AP/Tel-Var each in the assortment vendor. Also, to get them randomly from rewards of the worthy and end of campaign.

      The bit I have bolded is a joke right?...

      No, is not. Not gonna pay 500k AP for just ONE trasmutation stone. I don't PVP much but have accumulated a good amount and wont like to spend it all for just 2 or 3 of these stones.
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