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Has your magic DPS gone Up, Down or stayed about the same since the Horns of the reach update?
RomanCaesar
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My DPS has dropped around 3K and i am trying to figure out if that is just how it is for everyone.
Edited by RomanCaesar on September 3, 2017 12:48AM Has your magic DPS gone Up, Down or stayed about the same since the Horns of the reach update? 45 votes
DPS has increased 1,000 or more
24%
11 votes
DPS is within 999 either Up or down
15%
7 votes
DPS has dropped 1,000 or more
60%
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RomanCaesar✭✭RomanCaesar wrote: »
I want to know about magic DPS specifically, where that thread was in general, but thank you for the thread.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Still a bit early to tell, but my initial impressions are that DPS has fallen quite a bit at least on Magicka Sorc (mainly pet builds).2 -
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A little remark - mainly on non-pet build. Non-pet build literally does s**t sustainable damage right now, absolutely unplayable unless you want to be carried by others forever and ever. Pet is now the only way to go.Still a bit early to tell, but my initial impressions are that DPS has fallen quite a bit at least on Magicka Sorc (mainly pet builds).
But yeah. Pet-builds also took a punch. Magsorc in general took a punch, yep.
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Edit. Not my parse.Edited by SanTii.92 on September 3, 2017 4:50AMWhen the snows fall and the white winds blow,
the lone wolf dies, but the pack survives.
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Nice! Do you think Stam has gone up too much in DPS compared to ranged Magicka builds? The difference is pretty big. I think Magicka needs to have some sort of support sets (thinking of Sunderflame, Morag Tong, NMG, etc). Not for increased Pen, but other Magcika-based buffs. Would be cool.1 -
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Nice! Do you think Stam has gone up too much in DPS compared to ranged Magicka builds? The difference is pretty big. I think Magicka needs to have some sort of support sets (thinking of Sunderflame, Morag Tong, NMG, etc). Not for increased Pen, but other Magcika-based buffs. Would be cool.
It's not my parse, but stam dps is kinda out of control. The issue is not so much as they outdmge range, since there are mechanics that prevent melee stacking so range dps will always be needed, but stamdk is doing a lot, while magdk and magtemplar, melee's, are left in the dust.When the snows fall and the white winds blow,
the lone wolf dies, but the pack survives.
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✭My sorc DPS has stayed the same/gone up raid wise.
On dummy your DPS will obviously have dropped as pen was nerfed.1 -
Concret✭✭✭I can reach higher number with my pet build since hotr both solo and trials (but maybe because I am more comfortable with my rotation)0 -
Izaki✭✭✭✭✭
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Nice! Do you think Stam has gone up too much in DPS compared to ranged Magicka builds? The difference is pretty big. I think Magicka needs to have some sort of support sets (thinking of Sunderflame, Morag Tong, NMG, etc). Not for increased Pen, but other Magcika-based buffs. Would be cool.
Stam DPS hasn't moved up or down since Morrowind, its just people are starting to notice that stamina builds don't suck 3 months after they stopped sucking.
And since people realized that stamina builds don't suck, they start to bring more into raids, which in turn leads to the use of support sets and higher overall stamina DPS than last patch. But from a raw DPS point of view, the DPS since Morrowind hasn't changed.
Agreed on the magicka support sets. Right now there's just Infal.
Nice! Do you think Stam has gone up too much in DPS compared to ranged Magicka builds? The difference is pretty big. I think Magicka needs to have some sort of support sets (thinking of Sunderflame, Morag Tong, NMG, etc). Not for increased Pen, but other Magcika-based buffs. Would be cool.
It's not my parse, but stam dps is kinda out of control. The issue is not so much as they outdmge range, since there are mechanics that prevent melee stacking so range dps will always be needed, but stamdk is doing a lot, while magdk and magtemplar, melee's, are left in the dust.
Why post a Varlariel parse? Its literally a target dummy inside a raid, so of course stamina will be parsing much higher in this fight due to their clear superiority in single target DPS. On vMoL HM or vHoF HM (fights that "really matter") numbers between stamina and magicka are fairly even, because mechanics.@ Izaki #PCEU
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✭IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »Why post a Varlariel parse? Its literally a target dummy inside a raid, so of course stamina will be parsing much higher in this fight due to their clear superiority in single target DPS. On vMoL HM or vHoF HM (fights that "really matter") numbers between stamina and magicka are fairly even, because mechanics.
Sadly the vast majority of trial bosses are 'target dummies', Rakkhat is no different in that regard. The only place where stamina doesn't vastly outparse magicka is in vHoF, and even there, it's still stronger.Edited by Dymence on September 3, 2017 12:00PM3 -
AndrewQ84✭✭✭I don't know because I can't stay in the *** game long enough to find out with all the crashing and booting and errors when logging in.Sa'hira of the Shadows, DC Nightblade and ruins explorer extraordinaire.
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getemshauna✭✭✭✭✭IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »
Nice! Do you think Stam has gone up too much in DPS compared to ranged Magicka builds? The difference is pretty big. I think Magicka needs to have some sort of support sets (thinking of Sunderflame, Morag Tong, NMG, etc). Not for increased Pen, but other Magcika-based buffs. Would be cool.
Stam DPS hasn't moved up or down since Morrowind, its just people are starting to notice that stamina builds don't suck 3 months after they stopped sucking. And since people realized that stamina builds don't suck, they start to bring more into raids, which in turn leads to the use of support sets and higher overall stamina DPS than last patch. But from a raw DPS point of view, the DPS since Morrowind hasn't changed.
Agreed on the magicka support sets. Right now there's just Infal.
Nice! Do you think Stam has gone up too much in DPS compared to ranged Magicka builds? The difference is pretty big. I think Magicka needs to have some sort of support sets (thinking of Sunderflame, Morag Tong, NMG, etc). Not for increased Pen, but other Magcika-based buffs. Would be cool.
It's not my parse, but stam dps is kinda out of control. The issue is not so much as they outdmge range, since there are mechanics that prevent melee stacking so range dps will always be needed, but stamdk is doing a lot, while magdk and magtemplar, melee's, are left in the dust.
Why post a Varlariel parse? Its literally a target dummy inside a raid, so of course stamina will be parsing much higher in this fight due to their clear superiority in single target DPS. On vMoL HM or vHoF HM (fights that "really matter") numbers between stamina and magicka are fairly even, because mechanics.
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So what if I posted a Varlariel parse, all I said remains correct regardless of which I would have. Range dps remains desirable while melee magicka are just not competitive.IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »Why post a Varlariel parse? Its literally a target dummy inside a raid, so of course stamina will be parsing much higher in this fight due to their clear superiority in single target DPS. On vMoL HM or vHoF HM (fights that "really matter") numbers between stamina and magicka are fairly even, because mechanics.Edited by SanTii.92 on September 3, 2017 6:23PMWhen the snows fall and the white winds blow,
the lone wolf dies, but the pack survives.
Arg | Pc Na | Factionless Mag Warden.1