ALLIANCE CHANGE TOKEN POLL

Shadzilla · August 2017

I am suggesting this option due to many reasons. In my case, and many others, I have had my main character for 3.5 years now... I love my main, and always will. I do not play with anyone from PRX like I did at launch, and a large amount of this games population from launch quit within the first 3 months... As time goes by, friends are gained and lost, guilds disband and form, people leave and come back, etc. I think having the ability to choose what faction you play for should be instigated, and at least available once a year. I know it is very easy to say "just reroll an alt" and yes we all do it, but it just isn't the same. Its not that same toon that I wiped 4 times on Doshia with, its not the same toon I have 27k achievement points with, its not the same toon I have racked thousands of hours up with, ITS JUST NOT THE SAME! Personally, I feel this option should have come into play with 1 tamriel. @ZOS Let us play our mains that we love with our current circle of friends, we will pay you money and luv u lung tiiiime.

Obviously there has to be a severe cooldown so toons cannot flip flop all over the place... I am thinking 90+ days would suffice. What do you think?

SydneyGrey · August 2017

Yes I would love an alliance change token, 90 day cooldown seems fair.

They need to at least allow an alliance change when you use their race change token.

I know the argument against alliance change is fear that people will flip-flop alliances based on whoever is winning in Cyrodiil at the moment, but that argument doesn't hold water. If people wanted to do that, they can just make alts in every alliance, and switch characters. Most every player has alts in different alliances.
Most people tend to be loyal to a team, and wouldn't be constantly switching alliances.

Autumnhart · August 2017

Amnesty Week every year at New Life. One week only, after that everybody stays where they are.

One Tamriel took any real need to have characters in each alliance. Probably a lot of people who'd like to do this, but it would have to be long-term or it would just lead to Cyrodiil shenanigans.

OTOH if Zeni cared about population imbalances in the Alliance War, they'd implement dynamic population caps and separate IC from the main campaigns. There must be other practical factors that have kept them from offering this. The skill points we get with alliance war ranks maybe, or just not wanting to deal with the flood of forum tears.

max_only · August 2017

Not even a 180 day cool down. I understand if your main is one alliance and then your friends join the game and choose a different alliance that you'd want to switch. I understand that because I love fps with friends.

So I would be okay if they allowed the faction change ONE time per account. Player must have already unlocked Any Race/Any Alliance on that account. You are given your character list with the choices. You move each character to the preferred alliance (or leave them) and that's it. No backsies, no changing your mind a few months later when your friends leave the game. Just ONCE.

If one keeps making characters in the "wrong" alliance that is a problem of the user. I can understand if it wasn't clear the impact it would have on one's future gaming when they chose the character and alliance in the beginning, but by the time one is looking for alliance changes, one must be held responsible for knowing.

Marabornwingrion · August 2017

Yes I would love an alliance change token, although it would have to be a 180 day+ cooldown at least.

Yes, but it should be permanent, so no alliance flipping in PvP.

grannas211 · August 2017

Yes I would love an alliance change token, 90 day cooldown seems fair.

I just want to change my first character. So for me I'd be okay with just a one time deal. But I'm not necessarily saying it has to be that. I just want to change my original character.

disintegr8 · August 2017

No thank you, if you want to play a different alliance go roll an alt!

I have maxed out and low level characters in every alliance.

Serjustin19 · August 2017

Yes I would love an alliance change token, 90 day cooldown seems fair.

I just broke the tie... If we had this, I would've brought all my 9AD characters with me. But now there just sitting

Aliyavana · August 2017

No thank you, if you want to play a different alliance go roll an alt!

It should be a permanent change, if you betray our ruler you don't deserve a chance to come back. Other than that I'd agree

rafaelcsmaia · August 2017

Yes I would love an alliance change token, although it would have to be a 180 day+ cooldown at least.

But really, does any of these polls make any difference? For me it seems like ZoS doesnt even bother reading, same with class changing

Runs · August 2017

Yes I would love an alliance change token, although it would have to be a 180 day+ cooldown at least.

To be honest I would just like an option for a 1 time change, per character, that does not involve the crown store.

Sigtric · August 2017

No thank you, if you want to play a different alliance go roll an alt!

I could get along with a one time - permanent change, but otherwise no. If you want to shift with the winds, put in the effort to do so.

Tommy_The_Gun · August 2017

No thank you, if you want to play a different alliance go roll an alt!

I would vote "Other":

The real PvP problem right now is not some skills being unbalanced or OP. No. It is Re-loging:

You log in to a certain campaign in Alliance War, play some time (example capture some keeps / forts/ castles), then you log-out and log-in to the same camping but with a different Alliance (and then you capture some keeps / forts/ castles). Basically - you switch teams. If one person is doing than it is not a problem. When whole PvP guild do this - it is ruining global 3 vs 3 Banner War order and basically makes one faction wining constantly over & over again. And usually - one faction loosing constantly as it has to face 2 vs 1 situation constantly.

It was not a problem some time ago because campaigns used to be alliance locked

If you for example logged to camping with an DC character you were not able to re-log and join with AD or EP character within the same camping.

Some time ago ZOS changed it - so nothing is stopping people from doing that.

Shadzilla · August 2017

Yes I would love an alliance change token, 90 day cooldown seems fair.

Autumnhart wrote: »

Amnesty Week every year at New Life. One week only, after that everybody stays where they are.

One Tamriel took any real need to have characters in each alliance. Probably a lot of people who'd like to do this, but it would have to be long-term or it would just lead to Cyrodiil shenanigans.

OTOH if Zeni cared about population imbalances in the Alliance War, they'd implement dynamic population caps and separate IC from the main campaigns. There must be other practical factors that have kept them from offering this. The skill points we get with alliance war ranks maybe, or just not wanting to deal with the flood of forum tears.

I like this idea, once a year

Keep in mind it would never happen. I see a few posts about one permanent change, which in all honesty I totally agree with... It would just never happen. You have to look at it from a ZOS standpoint... They would want it to be a recurring option, to sell more crowns. Just like race change. There is no money in it for them if its just a one time deal, but every 3 months or so? That would generate a lot of income for them, giving them reason to do it.

BlazingDynamo · August 2017

No thank you, if you want to play a different alliance go roll an alt!

I miss the days when it was alliance vs alliance vs alliance on the trial leaderboards. Made it so much more fun, of course more people played at that time it feels like.

I dislike alot of what 1T brought. Feels like they took a stake with 'casuals' carved into it and stabbed it right into the chest of the long term end game players.

Beardimus · August 2017

Yes I would love an alliance change token, although it would have to be a 180 day+ cooldown at least.

It really needs this. Lock one alliance per faction too.

agegarton · August 2017

Yes I would love an alliance change token, 90 day cooldown seems fair.

To deny an Allieace Change Token through a fear that people would "flip / flop" Alliances is ludicrous an illogical. Most players have more than one character across more than one Alliance - when people want to back the winning side, they just relog. This happens now, all the time. Its rank hypocrisy.

Most players who want to switch Alliance want to do so because their friends are in ANOTHER Alliance, and they don't want to create a new character. It's that simple. The game won't be destroyed, Molag Baal won't suddenly appear in your living room, and the sky will stay up where it should be. I promise.

hamgatan · August 2017

No thank you, if you want to play a different alliance go roll an alt!

No. Just no. It's game breaking. It's not simply a matter of just changing a characters alliance.. but their entire progression too.

The problem is the big shift and transition of achievements and skill point distribution. Whilst 1T pretty much quashed the progression of Caldwell's Silver and Gold as each zone to as now accessible and scaled to your level.. the achievement ID's would have remained static.

That makes it very difficult from the perspective of progression because if you started in Auridon, did Grahtwood, then changed alliances, how do you translate the quests you've completed to say Ebonheart equivalents? The only way you could do it then is if the AD zone became your Caldwell's gold.. the quests were still marked complete - but you had to commence the EP base zones from scratch. Will people be motivated to change alliance if they have to do it all again?

Not to mention the lore breaking nature of it will invoke millions of rp'ers tears.

And what about skill points and skyshards.. ?

The thing is that whilst those achievement ID's could technically translate across and still be marked as complete - certain achievements will break completely as they're alliance specific.

It's too big a dogs breakfast to approach.. and if it ever was possible, I would be inclined to make it an option ONLY to people who have completed Caldwell's gold simply so it doesn't break anything achievement wise.. as you then have a marked completion for all main quests

yukikenzo · August 2017

No thank you, if you want to play a different alliance go roll an alt!

NO, absolutely no. Roll another toon if you want to play for another alliance.

Biro123 · August 2017

Yes I would love an alliance change token, 90 day cooldown seems fair.

grannas211 wrote: »

I just want to change my first character. So for me I'd be okay with just a one time deal. But I'm not necessarily saying it has to be that. I just want to change my original character.

Same here.
He's also my crafter and a class I want to play again.. SO I'm not gonna delete him, and I don't want to make another of the same class just to play on a different faction.

IcyDeadPeople · August 2017

Yes I would love an alliance change token, 90 day cooldown seems fair.

I don't really care about cooldown period, but if you change alliance, you should lose your rank and all skill points earned fighting for the previous alliance.

GreenhaloX · August 2017

My choice isn't on the vote options. I favor having an alliance token, but no need for a cool down. You can create each toon from the 14 character slots available in each alliance if you want. So, I have multiple toons in all alliances. I'm not flip-flopping. I may take my Nord toons out, and at other times, romp around with my Daggerfall or Dominion toons. Many others do the same. So, no need for any cool down period.

I want the alliance token so I can have access to a race in the other alliance when wanting to change a toon, instead of currently having to delete one entirely in order to be able to create a toon only available in other alliances. For example, I had two High Elf sorcs, one being mag and the other a stam. After leveling both, I wanted to change the stam to a Dark Elf, but found out there is not currently a token you can purchase to do so. Thus, I had to delete the Stamsorc toon and recreate the Dark Elf toon from scratch. I have no problem in re-leveling a toon; actually I like it a lot. However, oh crap.. the agony of just getting one mount training piece a day, unless you drop some bucks into purchasing the training bundle from the crown store.

IcyDeadPeople · August 2017

Yes I would love an alliance change token, 90 day cooldown seems fair.

hamgatan wrote: »

No. Just no. It's game breaking. It's not simply a matter of just changing a characters alliance.. but their entire progression too.

The problem is the big shift and transition of achievements and skill point distribution. Whilst 1T pretty much quashed the progression of Caldwell's Silver and Gold as each zone to as now accessible and scaled to your level.. the achievement ID's would have remained static.

That makes it very difficult from the perspective of progression because if you started in Auridon, did Grahtwood, then changed alliances, how do you translate the quests you've completed to say Ebonheart equivalents? The only way you could do it then is if the AD zone became your Caldwell's gold.. the quests were still marked complete - but you had to commence the EP base zones from scratch. Will people be motivated to change alliance if they have to do it all again?

Not to mention the lore breaking nature of it will invoke millions of rp'ers tears.

And what about skill points and skyshards.. ?

I don't quite see how this would cause a problem with the PVE quests - since One Tamriel, you can do all the Cadwell quests in any order you like.

And it's not exactly lore breaking or immersion problem, if anything it would be a bit more in line with the lore for people of various races to ally with other factions or change allegiances.

Kurkikohtaus · August 2017

No thank you, if you want to play a different alliance go roll an alt!

The problem with this idea is that eventually, everyone would be on AD. The only reason people stay in the other alliances is because once they've realized what a poor selection they've made at character creation, they've already sunken too much time into their characters to start over.

max_only · August 2017

GreenhaloX wrote: »

My choice isn't on the vote options. I favor having an alliance token, but no need for a cool down. You can create each toon from the 14 character slots available in each alliance if you want. So, I have multiple toons in all alliances. I'm not flip-flopping. I may take my Nord toons out, and at other times, romp around with my Daggerfall or Dominion toons. Many others do the same. So, no need for any cool down period.

I want the alliance token so I can have access to a race in the other alliance when wanting to change a toon, instead of currently having to delete one entirely in order to be able to create a toon only available in other alliances. For example, I had two High Elf sorcs, one being mag and the other a stam. After leveling both, I wanted to change the stam to a Dark Elf, but found out there is not currently a token you can purchase to do so. Thus, I had to delete the Stamsorc toon and recreate the Dark Elf toon from scratch. I have no problem in re-leveling a toon; actually I like it a lot. However, oh crap.. the agony of just getting one mount training piece a day, unless you drop some bucks into purchasing the training bundle from the crown store.

There is such a thing already. Get the Any Race/Any Alliance unlock from the crown store (some versions of ESO came with the Adventure Pack that had this feature) and then use the Race change token.

Shadzilla · August 2017

Yes I would love an alliance change token, 90 day cooldown seems fair.

max_only wrote: »

GreenhaloX wrote: »

My choice isn't on the vote options. I favor having an alliance token, but no need for a cool down. You can create each toon from the 14 character slots available in each alliance if you want. So, I have multiple toons in all alliances. I'm not flip-flopping. I may take my Nord toons out, and at other times, romp around with my Daggerfall or Dominion toons. Many others do the same. So, no need for any cool down period.

I want the alliance token so I can have access to a race in the other alliance when wanting to change a toon, instead of currently having to delete one entirely in order to be able to create a toon only available in other alliances. For example, I had two High Elf sorcs, one being mag and the other a stam. After leveling both, I wanted to change the stam to a Dark Elf, but found out there is not currently a token you can purchase to do so. Thus, I had to delete the Stamsorc toon and recreate the Dark Elf toon from scratch. I have no problem in re-leveling a toon; actually I like it a lot. However, oh crap.. the agony of just getting one mount training piece a day, unless you drop some bucks into purchasing the training bundle from the crown store.

There is such a thing already. Get the Any Race/Any Alliance unlock from the crown store (some versions of ESO came with the Adventure Pack that had this feature) and then use the Race change token.

That still does not change your alliance you fight for in cyro though, that simply allows all races to choose any faction they wish at the start of character creation.

paulsimonps · August 2017

Yes I would love an alliance change token, 90 day cooldown seems fair.

My wifes main is a DC toon and all of my toons are EP and ever since we meet she have been wanting to swap her main to EP so she could play PvP with her main with me. At the moment she makes due with her alts but still sucks to not get to use her main. So I would love it if we could swap, I mean we can have toons of different factions in the same campaign so what does it matter if people swap?

Betsararie · August 2017

Yes I would love an alliance change token, 90 day cooldown seems fair.

Runs wrote: »

To be honest I would just like an option for a 1 time change, per character, that does not involve the crown store.

This is what I'm thinking. One time per char

Everyone just wants stuff to go into the crown store where you don't have to achieve anything to earn it, I'd much rather the alliance change be attainable through completing some action in game.

Megabear · August 2017

Yes I would love an alliance change token, 90 day cooldown seems fair.

I need to move all my toons from DC. I'd buy so many tokens.

Enemy-of-Coldharbour · August 2017

Yes I would love an alliance change token, 90 day cooldown seems fair.

Yes, please.

MrSinister213 · August 2017

Yes I would love an alliance change token, although it would have to be a 180 day+ cooldown at least.

I am 13 million away from GO on my AD Nightblade but the PC NA Dominion community is so toxic lately I cant muster to log into that character anymore. I would pay 5k crowns to faction swap.

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