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Put your Banker/Merchant away
AlMcFly
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Three times tonight I had players refuse to put their Bankers or Merchants away through the entire dungeon, even when asked. One of them was during a Vet HM pledge. You refuse to put them away, have fun looking for another Healer. Straight to Ignore List too.
[Edited to remove inappropriate content]
Edited by ZOS_Ragnar on August 29, 2017 1:05PM [Edited to remove inappropriate content]
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Pele✭✭✭✭✭Ya, that's just rude. It can also be distracting and view-obstructing especially in fights where there's a lot of visual noise.13 -
Stinkyremy✭✭✭✭✭Yeah well try be a tank while there are pet sorc builds, then you see the meaning of annoying.
Those builds can kill a dungeon strat for a tank.14 -
Kildayen✭✭✭✭✭Put your Banker/Merchant away
No.
Ignoring someone because they won't put their banker or merchant away? I could understand if you were doing a vet trial. But a dungeon? Hilarious. Sounds like you might have control issues.
My sorc be like: "You think I have too many pets up in this dungeon, bruh?"
Edited by Kildayen on August 29, 2017 8:32AM46 -
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✭Stinkyremy wrote: »Yeah well try be a tank while there are pet sorc builds, then you see the meaning of annoying.
Those builds can kill a dungeon strat for a tank.
May i ask for why? Just curious.4 -
Stinkyremy✭✭✭✭✭Ihatenightblades wrote: »Stinkyremy wrote: »Yeah well try be a tank while there are pet sorc builds, then you see the meaning of annoying.
Those builds can kill a dungeon strat for a tank.
May i ask for why? Just curious.
Because the pets pull agro on their own and can completely mess up controlling the battlefield and resource management for tanks.
it's annoying when for example, I am tanking a boss, keeping the agro away from my team faced towards me, a pet comes and the boss does a 180 and heads towards the pet/team23 -
anitajoneb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
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Any real argument as to why anyone would refuse to put their banker/merchant away during a group activity ? Apart from intentionally enjoying being a burden, I don't see any reason. As a result, leaving the group and putting people on ignore looks appropriate to me, since it's the only efficient way to deal with people who enjoy being a**es.
Edited by anitajoneb17_ESO on August 29, 2017 9:24AM39 -
Turelus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭They are annoying but I am not sure they warrant a block/leave.
They might be more agreeable if the camera focused where the actual cross hair was and not the front of the screen, you shouldn't be able to push E and interact with items behind your character.@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
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✭✭✭✭✭Stinkyremy wrote: »Ihatenightblades wrote: »Stinkyremy wrote: »Yeah well try be a tank while there are pet sorc builds, then you see the meaning of annoying.
Those builds can kill a dungeon strat for a tank.
May i ask for why? Just curious.
Because the pets pull agro on their own and can completely mess up controlling the battlefield and resource management for tanks.
it's annoying when for example, I am tanking a boss, keeping the agro away from my team faced towards me, a pet comes and the boss does a 180 and heads towards the pet/team
More than that, the Clanfear actually has a taunt. I'm not sure what the parameters are where it can fire, until Morrowind it could taunt Trial bosses. It might not be able to taunt dungeon bosses, I'm honestly not sure.2 -
Stinkyremy✭✭✭✭✭starkerealm wrote: »Stinkyremy wrote: »Ihatenightblades wrote: »Stinkyremy wrote: »Yeah well try be a tank while there are pet sorc builds, then you see the meaning of annoying.
Those builds can kill a dungeon strat for a tank.
May i ask for why? Just curious.
Because the pets pull agro on their own and can completely mess up controlling the battlefield and resource management for tanks.
it's annoying when for example, I am tanking a boss, keeping the agro away from my team faced towards me, a pet comes and the boss does a 180 and heads towards the pet/team
More than that, the Clanfear actually has a taunt. I'm not sure what the parameters are where it can fire, until Morrowind it could taunt Trial bosses. It might not be able to taunt dungeon bosses, I'm honestly not sure.
yeah it taunts bosses, I've had it taunt a few bosses in base dungeons before.
It really messes the flow of the battle up.3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭yep its annoying. Its often unintentional though people say - they have it slotted and hit it in combat.Xbox One | EU | EP
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✭✭✭✭✭anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »
Unslotting it is fairly easy. Finding it to reslot later is a pain.3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭starkerealm wrote: »anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »
Unslotting it is fairly easy. Finding it to reslot later is a pain.
Valid point.
Let's suggest to re-bind it to some faraway key, then ?
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✭✭So far never had anyone ask me to put them away. Usually seems the other group members are glad to be able to empty their bags quickly, and Nuzimah is a badass. Sometimes she is the last one standing14 -
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✭✭✭✭I think I would look for new healer as well. Control issues much? Tanks are only true leaders in any PvE content.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭IcyDeadPeople wrote: »So far never had anyone ask me to put them away. Usually seems the other group members are glad to be able to empty their bags quickly, and Nuzimah is a badass. Sometimes she is the last one standing
That's valid for outside of combat. The complaint is about having them up during combat. Noone can use your merchant while in combat because she moves around with you. She's not available to other players.
If noone ever asked you to put her away, it's because they were annoyed to have to ask. But merchants or bankers during combat are both annoying and ridiculous to everyone else.Edited by anitajoneb17_ESO on August 29, 2017 10:50AM20 -
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✭✭✭✭✭It's annoying when people have them out at dolmens, too. Holy crud it's annoying. Dungeons would be even worse.12 -
Stinkyremy✭✭✭✭✭anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »
some people play a dps pet build though.
I can understand that, but as long as they actually know what there pet is doing and how it can mess up a dungeon, then they would ideally not run a pet build in a dungeon or trial0 -
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✭✭✭✭anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »
I played in groups where any role was lead. Best ones I have seen were tanks, from my own experience. Simple as that.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Stinkyremy wrote: »anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »
some people play a dps pet build though.
I can understand that, but as long as they actually know what there pet is doing and how it can mess up a dungeon, then they would ideally not run a pet build in a dungeon or trial
We're talking merchant and banker here. Not combat pets. (Even though some people have exchanged some bad experience with sorc pets interfering with tanking, it's still a thread about merchant and banker).
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✭Guys, there are a lot of people who are not playing the English version of ESO, and they don't read English chat cos they don't understand English. If only ZOS would translate chat into their ESO language version as well. Just watch twich ESO, you'll see their ESO is in a foreign language and chats are still in English and a wall of English in chat doesn't mean they get what u r saying.Pc na2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭VampiricByNature wrote: »Tythis is my cheerleader. How can I ask him to go away?
If you care about him, how can you require from him to stand by your side on such dangerous grounds ?
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✭✭✭✭✭Guys, there are a lot of people who are not playing the English version of ESO, and they don't read English chat cos they don't understand English. If only ZOS would translate chat into their ESO language version as well. Just watch twich ESO, you'll see their ESO is in a foreign language and chats are still in English and a wall of English in chat doesn't mean they get what u r saying.
Taking away banker and merchant in a dungeon is common sense. Shouldn't even have to ask nor understand. Just do it.
Edited by anitajoneb17_ESO on August 29, 2017 11:22AM6 -
Rainraven✭✭✭✭✭anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »
I played in groups where any role was lead. Best ones I have seen were tanks, from my own experience. Simple as that.
Not to derail the conversation, but some tanks won't lead.
I only kill things, so whoever's calling the plays is Not Me. I'm just glad if it's someone and we aren't Study in Anarchy-ing our way through.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »
I played in groups where any role was lead. Best ones I have seen were tanks, from my own experience. Simple as that.
Okay. So "from your own experience" you draw a generally valid conclusion that says "only true leaders are tanks"... .... no further comment, your Honor
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