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Put your Banker/Merchant away

  • Inarre
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    AlMcFly wrote: »
    Kildayen wrote: »

    No.

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    Wait @Kildayen i want to see if this person will either leave guilds because youre in them or kick members of their own guilds over a pet in a dungeon!

    [Edited for quote]
    Edited by ZOS_KatP on August 29, 2017 6:46PM
  • Cadbury
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    I never knew this was such a hot-button issue...

    Oh, ESO. Never change.
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  • Axoinus
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    ZOS should make an option to be able to turn off seeing others non-combat pets. I don't want to look at that.
  • Teridaxus
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    I have to admit i tried too taunt sorc clannfears in banished far too many times for my own taste :/
  • Ardan147
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    I personally don't care if someone has their banker out. It's hardly any more distracting than any of the other crap on the screen. For the most part my attention will be entirely focused on health bars and proc alerts so I know when to cast Crystal Frag. If it's not something I'm trying to kill I usually ignore it.

    But if another group member is bothered by my banker, I'll send him away.
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  • STEVIL
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    While i cannot think of a reason i would not recall my assistant in group play (hell it annoys me in solo and its my assistant) i also cannot see any logical reaction which results in healers being ****s about it, so, seems to me to be a classic case of ****smanship and cant imagine i would want to group with either side of the hissy fit.
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  • STEVIL
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    Tythis is my cheerleader. How can I ask him to go away? :/

    If you care about him, how can you require from him to stand by your side on such dangerous grounds ?

    because he is wearing the magic underwear the guards have and so is not at risk.
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  • anitajoneb17_ESO
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    STEVIL wrote: »
    Tythis is my cheerleader. How can I ask him to go away? :/

    If you care about him, how can you require from him to stand by your side on such dangerous grounds ?

    because he is wearing the magic underwear the guards have and so is not at risk.

    But but but.... guards are used to seeing violence and horrible things. Merchants and bankers aren't. You're damaging them psychologically !!! It's mental torture !!! xD

    Edited by anitajoneb17_ESO on August 29, 2017 3:45PM
  • STEVIL
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    STEVIL wrote: »
    Tythis is my cheerleader. How can I ask him to go away? :/

    If you care about him, how can you require from him to stand by your side on such dangerous grounds ?

    because he is wearing the magic underwear the guards have and so is not at risk.

    But but but.... guards are used to seeing violence and horrible things. Merchants and bankers aren't. You're damaging them psychologically !!! It's mental torture !!! xD

    you say that as if it is a bad thing?

    what am i missing?

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  • Flowersquisher
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    In 4 man dungeon content, who cares. I can understand in raids, another story, but dungeons-gtfo
  • STEVIL
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    apostate9 wrote: »
    Axoinus wrote: »
    ZOS should make an option to be able to turn off seeing others non-combat pets. I don't want to look at that.

    [Snip]

    Wal-mart after midnight.... shudder.

    [Edited for quote]
    Edited by ZOS_KatP on August 29, 2017 6:27PM
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  • Stania
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    Stinkyremy wrote: »
    Yeah well try be a tank while there are pet sorc builds, then you see the meaning of annoying.
    Those builds can kill a dungeon strat for a tank.

    Ugh last weekend a vHRC run where I was tanking was a disaster at some parts due to a stupid-ass scamp and specially its stupid-ass owner refusing to put it away since it was constantly pulling mobs and triggering bosses before people had the chance to explain strategies or check equipment, all this because the guy was always standing too close to the enemies. Also he was weaker than wet toilet paper (his friendship with the GM saved him from a kick).

    Sometimes the problem is not the pet, but the player who is way dumber than the pet itself.
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  • Runs
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    IMO they need to remove the pet behavior from assistants. Make it so they summon in front of you and then stand still, and desummon after no one using them for 30sec or a minute.

    Or just an option in settings to disable me from seeing other peoples, especially if I own my own.
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  • starlizard70ub17_ESO
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    Tythis is my cheerleader. How can I ask him to go away? :/

    If you care about him, how can you require from him to stand by your side on such dangerous grounds ?

    After paying 5k for him, he pretty much stands where ever I want him to. Never the less, having him out in combat is wrong.
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  • CGPsaint
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    Some people just have to show off the fact that they have something that others don't. I've brought this up before, and there were dozens of butthurt responses saying that I was only complaining because I didn't have them. I do have them, however I also have the good sense that God gave a duck, to put them away when they aren't being used. Same goes for non-combat pets. At the end of the day, you can't fix stupid, and it seems like you took the logical approach. Just ignore the *** and go about your business.
  • Cadbury
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    ...Soooo IBTL?
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  • DocFrost72
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    If someone asks, put it away.

    If they don't, you don't have to leave the group and block that person. Don't hang up 10 people cause one's being an idiot.

    Boom, simple. /thread.
  • Inarre
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    My @ name is @Inarre. I sometimes leave my banker out if I am frantically trying to make bag room and the whole team runs into the next fight without me and are about to die. You can remove yourself from my guilds or whatever xD
  • AlMcFly
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    Inarre wrote: »
    My @ name is @Inarre. I sometimes leave my banker out if I am frantically trying to make bag room and the whole team runs into the next fight without me and are about to die. You can remove yourself from my guilds or whatever xD

    There is a big difference between accidentally leaving it out, and purposely leaving it out, telling others "No" when they ask you to stow it. My concern is the latter.

    I don't intend to leave guilds you people belong to (as many of you assume). I intend to direct guild members to your comments on the forums, particularly guild leaders. If they support the behavior you display on this forum, than that's not a guild I want to be associated with.

    Edited by AlMcFly on August 29, 2017 6:22PM
  • I_killed_Vivec
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    Put your banker away when in dungeons and your pets away when in the bank...

    And I have no idea why the guards in every town allow people to ride around on beasts of burden and flesh-eating creatures.

    Get off your horse and drink your milk!

    (For those of us over 50 :) )
  • DocFrost72
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    AlMcFly wrote: »
    Inarre wrote: »
    My @ name is @Inarre. I sometimes leave my banker out if I am frantically trying to make bag room and the whole team runs into the next fight without me and are about to die. You can remove yourself from my guilds or whatever xD

    There is a big difference between accidentally leaving it out, and purposely leaving it out, telling others "No" when they ask you to stow it. My concern is the latter.

    I don't intend to leave guilds you people belong to. I intend to direct guild members to your comments on the forums, particularly guild leaders. If they support the behavior you display on this forum, than that's not a guild I want to be associated with.

    I just want to warn you, you may be leaving them at leader request if they learn you may potentially leave and ignore guildies. In fact, they may ask both of you to stay home next week.
  • Ashtaris
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    So far never had anyone ask me to put them away. Usually seems the other group members are glad to be able to empty their bags quickly, and Nuzimah is a badass. Sometimes she is the last one standing

    Why not just bring her out on demand? I have both the banker and merchant, so if someone asks, I'm happy to bring them out for the group members to use. However when everyone is done, it's not that hard to put them away again. Sometimes I forget, but if I do, I'm usually politely asked to put them away. No big deal and it's one less distraction in the dungeon run. Non-combat pets are usually asked to be put away during trials as well.
  • AlMcFly
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    DocFrost72 wrote: »
    AlMcFly wrote: »
    Inarre wrote: »
    My @ name is @Inarre. I sometimes leave my banker out if I am frantically trying to make bag room and the whole team runs into the next fight without me and are about to die. You can remove yourself from my guilds or whatever xD

    There is a big difference between accidentally leaving it out, and purposely leaving it out, telling others "No" when they ask you to stow it. My concern is the latter.

    I don't intend to leave guilds you people belong to. I intend to direct guild members to your comments on the forums, particularly guild leaders. If they support the behavior you display on this forum, than that's not a guild I want to be associated with.

    I just want to warn you, you may be leaving them at leader request if they learn you may potentially leave and ignore guildies. In fact, they may ask both of you to stay home next week.

    With so many guilds in the game, that's a risk I'm willing to take. I'd rather belong to a guild filled with courteous people than a guild that progresses me further into the game while being garbage people.
  • ZOS_KatP
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    We have removed several posts from this thread due to derailing. Please keep all discussion on topic or we will close it.

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  • Ackwalan
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    vamp_emily wrote: »
    I think a lot of people overreact in this game. Zone chat doesn't bother me, bankers and merchants out don't bother me, proc sets, poisons, and getting killed by a zerg does not bother me. Most things don't bother me.

    However, I do overreact in PvP. If the enemy is attacking, I will kindly say something like "Ash UA". If people don't show up to defend, I turn into a total witch and say things like, "Omg! it does not take 20 minutes to get to Ash" or "I guess all the good players logged off" or "You guys can't defend anything. I gave you a warning before they even started sieging, L2Defend".



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  • FakeFox
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    I don't see the point of putting it away in 4 man dungeons. Do you also ask people to put away there pets and not colour their armour too bright?
    Edited by FakeFox on August 29, 2017 6:41PM
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  • Inarre
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    AlMcFly wrote: »
    Inarre wrote: »
    My @ name is @Inarre. I sometimes leave my banker out if I am frantically trying to make bag room and the whole team runs into the next fight without me and are about to die. You can remove yourself from my guilds or whatever xD

    There is a big difference between accidentally leaving it out, and purposely leaving it out, telling others "No" when they ask you to stow it. My concern is the latter.

    I don't intend to leave guilds you people belong to (as many of you assume). I intend to direct guild members to your comments on the forums, particularly guild leaders. If they support the behavior you display on this forum, than that's not a guild I want to be associated with.

    If you ordered me to put my bank away i would say no as well. You of course have the right to ask people nicely to do something or not do something. Others also have the right to decide if they want to do as you say or if they would rather keep their banker/merchant/pet out.

    If it bothers you so much that you have to go to lengths to block a person, then post on the forums, then threaten that you will report their denial to obey to their guild leaders, then I welcome you to do so. I assure you I am on good terms with all of my guild leaders personally, and if they saw this post they would laugh that you are wasting their time with this.

    There is a simple solution and you've already found it. Block and move on if you don't like someone.
    Edited by Inarre on August 29, 2017 7:17PM
  • AlMcFly
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    Inarre wrote: »
    I am on good terms with all of my guild leaders personally, and if they saw this post they would laugh that you are wasting their time with this.

    It's a good thing I don't belong to guilds whose leaders laugh at guild members which have grievances against another guild member stemming from a lack of courtesy, no matter how illegitimate they personally believe the grievance to be.
  • Inarre
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    AlMcFly wrote: »
    Inarre wrote: »
    I am on good terms with all of my guild leaders personally, and if they saw this post they would laugh that you are wasting their time with this.

    It's a good thing I don't belong to guilds whose leaders laugh at guild members which have grievances against another guild member stemming from a lack of courtesy, no matter how illegitimate they personally believe the grievance to be.

    Your grievance is regarding pets in dungeons first and foremost. Most guildleaders are busy dealing with issues such as:
    1. Generating enough income for trader bids
    2. Organising events
    3. Tracking guild and Officer activity
    4. Managing the guild bank
    5. Overseeing guild officers
    6. Dealing with inactives
    7. Dealing with reports of scamming
    8. Dealing with verbal assaults in Teamspeak or in Guild Chat
    Having been a guild leader in a past life, the "This person won't put his pet away" would make me shake my head and sigh. Being a guild leader is a leader, not a mother.

    Secondly your grievance, if I understand, is that people aren't obeying your orders. Your unwillingness to compromise is just as much at fault for causing issue here as they are when they decide not to obey you. If I WAS your mother I'd ground all of you and take away your keyboards.
    Edited by Inarre on August 29, 2017 7:29PM
  • Flowersquisher
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    FakeFox wrote: »
    I don't see the point of putting it away in 4 man dungeons. Do you also ask people to put away there pets and not colour their armour too bright?

    This^^, why do you care if they have there assistants out, is it that hard to keep track of your heals?? Maybe try NOT playing MMO's
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