Lying about your target skeleton dps test.

LuminaLilly · August 2017

Too many people do it. There are a select few who back it up using screenshots. But when people say they pull 40k+ dps in a short amount of time only running julianos and lich, I call bularky.

So this dude running the same build as mine, which is julianos and lich, he said he pulled over 50k dps. If course it's b.s. cause it's my PvP build and you can't pull off much dps with that.

So I ask for screenshot and offered to let him use my target skeleton. He kept dodging the subject.

Have you caught anyone lying about their dps time?

PlagueSD · August 2017

I honestly never ask what DPS a person can pull. If the boss dies, it's high enough.

Betsararie · August 2017

Are people really running lich in PvE, now?

What class is that optimal for?

kargen27 · August 2017

The last time I did decided to whomp on a target dummy I hit a solid 12K! I would like to point out I managed to stay alive the entire time so I have that going for me.

Oakmontowls_ESO · August 2017

What is the point of lieing about it? If you do it to go into veteran hard mode trials, they will find out eventually and you would be hurting the rest of your group.

Diminish · August 2017

PlagueSD wrote: »

I honestly never ask what DPS a person can pull. If the boss dies, it's high enough.

This right here.

To the OP, don't ask and you won't get lied to. I leave groups if some moron asks what DPS I get on a skeleton. For most content it really isn't that big of a deal anyways.

Alpheu5 · August 2017

PlagueSD wrote: »

I honestly never ask what DPS a person can pull. If the boss dies, it's high enough.

If there's a DPS check, the boss won't die.

My personal horror story as a healer in vCoA II:

It was a self-induced wipe. Seeing a boss's health go from 21% to 95% instantly can break a man.

hamgatan · August 2017

Blanco wrote: »

Are people really running lich in PvE, now?

What class is that optimal for?

I've been running it as the back bar set on my argonian templar healer since it was an almost unattainable set 2 yrs ago (4pc Gold + Dyloras Staff). I've moved pieces around a bit now since it drops far easier but now I'm running that plus 5pc Twilight Remedy and 1pc Troll King. It's VERY effective from a sustain perspective. I used to pull about 4k mag regen before Morrowind. Even now it's still 3.6k when Lich procs.

Bbsample197 · August 2017

i saw someone saying he deals 25k dps unbuffed on a skeleton but he only attack the target for 3 sec and didnt even bother to finish it. i was afraid to say he needs more than 3 sec to know his actual dps.

Judas Helviaryn · August 2017

I don't generally go around bugging people for their parse numbers, but when it comes up, I tend to take them at their word until they prove otherwise.

My performance doesn't hinge on everyone else.
Some people just want to be validated, honestly or otherwise.

JamieAubrey · August 2017

My DPS is 14k

on my magplar, I dont play him as much as I'd like but when doing dungeons I just jabs for days so meh

SirDopey · August 2017

This is why I only PUG as a DPS, combat metrics tells me when the other DPS is full of ***......

ForsakenSin · August 2017

I heard this guy in Vet Hel RA was doing 75k dps .... and he was the one who came up with the plan to split people in 3 groups on the last boss .... funny thing he died like 30 plus times lol

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Caligamy_ESO · August 2017

Not to mention it is extremely easy to guarantee 100% up time on things like rearming trap on a target dummy that doesn't move or break free, which in turn gives dual wield builds a big damage bonus. Test dummy DPS reports are highly inaccurate compared to an actual boss fight or duel, but they do help with figuring out what skill rotation and animation cancelling is most effective for your setup.

LuminaLilly · August 2017

Honestly, I can give two mica schists about dps numbers. But lately, on xbox, every trial guild throws a fit about numbers. Doesn't matter if you can still bring enemies down, hold your own and know your setup and rotation, if you don't pull 40k dps, well, no Trials 4 u

Betsararie · August 2017

Even though the dummy parse is not indicative of the way a fight will go, it is indicative of a player's overall ability.

Absolutely, they are a valid way to gauge a player's ability.

Vaoh · August 2017

Target Skeleton parses are very nice and informative. They allow us to test a ton of stuff and make cool, effective builds under controlled conditions.

.... it just sucks that people with big egos feel like they have to prove something by putting out their inflated DPS parses that are in no way representative of how they perform when doing actual content. NO ONE CARES ABOUT HOW MUCH DPS YOU DID TO THE TARGET SKELETON. The people who are obsessed with showing off the DPS are almost always perform terribly in dungeons/trials.

GeneralPardon · August 2017

I have a love/hate relationship with the skeleton, its perfect to practise your rotation but its terrible to show how well you perform. I dont care if you can hit 45k+ on a skeleton if I need to rez you every 20 seconds in a raids its 2x 0 dps every 20 seconds.

Izaki · August 2017

Blanco wrote: »

Are people really running lich in PvE, now?

What class is that optimal for?

Eww gross, of course its not optimal and no one serious about serious PvE is running Lich.

Bobby_V_Rockit · August 2017

What I dont get is HOW can people pull theee times the DPS as me using same skills, cp and gear? I'm getting a steady 16-17k dps on my Stamsorc (no assistance) and I do weave light attacks, keep up DOTs and just cant get the 35k+ everyone else seema to get.

It bottles the mind...

Izaki · August 2017

Vaoh wrote: »

Target Skeleton parses are very nice and informative. They allow us to test a ton of stuff and make cool, effective builds under controlled conditions.

.... it just sucks that people with big egos feel like they have to prove something by putting out their inflated DPS parses that are in no way representative of how they perform when doing actual content. NO ONE CARES ABOUT HOW MUCH DPS YOU DID TO THE TARGET SKELETON. The people who are obsessed with showing off the DPS are almost always perform terribly in dungeons/trials.

That second part. Not always true. Just because someone pulls high deeps on a dummy, doesn't mean he sucks in actual raid situations. And even if some dude with insanely high dummy parses doesn't know what to do in a raid, it will most certainly come with time and experience, provided the work is put into doing so. And either way, having high parses also indirectly shows that he isn't clueless about raids either... Most of the gear needed to pull high numbers is locked behind vMA and Raids.

I remember when I got a 48k 3mil dummy parse on a stamblade back when Morrowind went live on consoles, you bet I was boasting in guild chat about it. Sure its a burst fight, sure I barely had to heavy attack at all, sure its not representative of anything in a raid, but its still a personal achievement and a result of 4 weeks PTS testing tons of different setups and another 2 weeks of farming stuff.

Then of course, there are THOSE guys who don't test *** but just grab a build on YT and start dummy humping and talking smack about people in different teams/guilds (the all too common: "that dude doesn't deserve the spot on the 1st Team, my dps is higher"). Pretty sure this is the type you were referring to, right?

Malic · August 2017

If youre lying about DPS on a target skelleton in an MMO then the issue is like one of self esteem.

Let em have the lie, imagine what their real life is like.

Have a little empathy you rubes, its tough out there in the real world.

SirAndy · August 2017

Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »

It bottles the mind...

DontBeDead-Claw · August 2017

If it don't move or fight back its not worth using to test on, just my opinion tho

LuminaLilly · August 2017

For tips. One of my other pals pulled off like 40k parse running netchs touc, julianos and illambris, using a vma shock staff Infuses and shock staff of julianos infused back bar. SORC using liquid lightning, illambris proc, weakness to magicka. Screenshot too.

zaria · August 2017

Malic wrote: »

If youre lying about DPS on a target skelleton in an MMO then the issue is like one of self esteem.

Let em have the lie, imagine what their real life is like.

Have a little empathy you rubes, its tough out there in the real world.

This, more if you out dps the group in an dungeon as healer or worse tank.

Mettaricana · August 2017

As much as i wish my dps was higher on my stam sorc i clear about 24-27k dps but also last one to die in groups and trials and normally the one bringing group back from death when the tank or healers take a dive in a botched vet run.

nimander99 · August 2017

I average like 8k DPS... Then again I'm a hybrid Templar, sword and board and Resto Staff for them spot heals and the ability to regen both resource pools quickly.

I know, I know, Hybrids aren't meta... Well, I play my own way. I'm practically un-killable in PVE situations... Always the last to drop in group and even then everyone is waiting a couple minutes.

Butt )(

It takes forever for me to kill World Boss's. I'm hacking away for like, 15 minutes at any given boss.

Tradeoffs

max_only · August 2017

SirAndy wrote: »

Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »

It bottles the mind...

More like it pickles the mind eh @SirAndy ?

Malic · August 2017

zaria wrote: »

Malic wrote: »

If youre lying about DPS on a target skelleton in an MMO then the issue is like one of self esteem.

Let em have the lie, imagine what their real life is like.

Have a little empathy you rubes, its tough out there in the real world.

This, more if you out dps the group in an dungeon as healer or worse tank.

The nice thing to do would to invite them over for coffee, they are probably just like Earl IRL. Be nice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijQl_cwioe8#t=60.513068

Panomania · August 2017

Caligamy_ESO wrote: »

Not to mention it is extremely easy to guarantee 100% up time on things like rearming trap on a target dummy that doesn't move or break free, which in turn gives dual wield builds a big damage bonus. Test dummy DPS reports are highly inaccurate compared to an actual boss fight or duel, but they do help with figuring out what skill rotation and animation cancelling is most effective for your setup.

This, all day long and twice on Tuesday. I'm not about to get into who's build website is better and who's is trash....but if they DPS test their build on a target dummy its invalid data as far as I am concerned.