Please provide guidance on how to increase health

Sixsixsix161 · August 2017

There was a post in the general forum that discussed players coming into dungeons/trials/etc., with very low amounts of health. The main reason was that character guides advice you to put all points into magicka (for mag characters) or stamina (for stam characters).

I had been doing that, too, and so my level 40 magsorc had a little over 12K health, and I know that was a reason I died more than I should have.

I reset all her points and put 8 points into health, and the rest into magicka. She's in all necro, light armor, so her magicka is well over 32K. This increased her health, but I believe I needed more, so when I finished the Lord Vivec story line he gave me a heavy armor chest piece as reward. That armor had over 1K health, and now my magsorc is sitting at about 16,500. With food I can push it up to around 22K-23K.

Of course, I took a hit in max magicka using that chest piece but I can manage that.

So, the question is, what would be the optimum way to increase her health. I have a health regen necklace that increases health around 880 points, and some regen rings with a similar amount, and some other heavy and medium armor pieces (head, belt, shoes) that also increase health.

My magsorc has 10 pieces of Necro gear (jewelry +3 and light armor +7), so I can take a hit anywhere.

What is the best combination to increase her health?

1. First question, how much health should she have? Is the 16,500 (plus food at 22K) enough? I can live with that since I never had that much before.

2. Use more of the armor pieces I have; or use the rings/necklace I have to replace the Necro jewelry (the jewelry increases health regen which I don't have and adds 860+ health so with 2 or 3 pieces I could roughly add 1600-2400 health).

3. Reset her points and put more into health? I would take a hit in max magicka but with 10 pieces Necro I can make that up. Either way, I'm going to lose some max magicka, which reduces the damage my staff and abilities do.

Thanks for the help.

Malic · August 2017

1. 22K with food should be fine on a mag sorc if you have a shield in your tool kit.
2. Given the answer to 1, you should be using pieces that allow you to maintain that health and a good sheild. Everything else should be increasing the output of your role, Im assuming its DPS.
3. I dont think you need to do that, at 22K and a shield you should be okay.

Dampen magic is a the LA skill thats going to scale of your LA pieces, it absorbs damage. Harden ward same thing it absorbs damage. So with 22K health and one of those up you should be okay.

Magdalina · August 2017

16k with food is fine tbh. You can survive any vet dungeon with that much if you know what you're doing. You can use a health enchant or 2 as well(you can also relocate some points into health, it's just easier to change enchants imo) if you feel like it's not enough, get maybe 18-19k. Over 20k imo is overkill, if you're being hit for 20k you're doing something wrong. Also, shields.

I'm a bit confused as for your level - you said you're level 40 but have full Necro gear? How is that possible?

Also, don't forget to get your Undaunted passives and that extra 6% to all stats, including health;)

Sixsixsix161 · August 2017

@Magdalina

I had her in full necro at level 20. When you run the chests in Rivenspire, you get gear attuned to your level. Same with the drops from the WB. If RNG smiles upon you, you can do it all in less than two hours.

Thanks everyone for the advice.

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PS: Forgot to mention, the Necro gear is not all purple. Mostly green and blue pieces, and maybe a purple if you're lucky. But it does give me a lot of magicka, plus the 5-piece bonus with the pet active.

Magdalina · August 2017

Sixsixsix161 wrote: »

@Magdalina

I had her in full necro at level 20. When you run the chests in Rivenspire, you get gear attuned to your level. Same with the drops from the WB. If RNG smiles upon you, you can do it all in less than two hours.

Thanks everyone for the advice.

4

PS: Forgot to mention, the Necro gear is not all purple. Mostly green and blue pieces, and maybe a purple if you're lucky. But it does give me a lot of magicka, plus the 5-piece bonus with the pet active.

That means you gotta re-farm it every ~5 levels or so though, level 20 gear would long be useless by level 40...I'd never have enough patience for that XD

Septimus_Magna · August 2017

On a magicka sorc its easy to get high health, just use blue health+magicka buff food, active pet (+8% health) and eventually undaunted mettle (5 light, 1 medium, 1 heavy) for another +6% health/magicka/stamina.

Im sitting at 19k health with nothing invested into health.

WuffyCerulei · August 2017

16k ain't bad. If you can, get a piece of heavy armor (gotta equip 3 to unlock the skill line, but you need only 1), and level up heavy armor to get the Juggernaut passive. It's a personal trick of mine to get my health up to a decent level.

IlCanis_LupuslI · August 2017

Sixsixsix161 wrote: »

There was a post in the general forum that discussed players coming into dungeons/trials/etc., with very low amounts of health. The main reason was that character guides advice you to put all points into magicka (for mag characters) or stamina (for stam characters).

I had been doing that, too, and so my level 40 magsorc had a little over 12K health, and I know that was a reason I died more than I should have.

I reset all her points and put 8 points into health, and the rest into magicka. She's in all necro, light armor, so her magicka is well over 32K. This increased her health, but I believe I needed more, so when I finished the Lord Vivec story line he gave me a heavy armor chest piece as reward. That armor had over 1K health, and now my magsorc is sitting at about 16,500. With food I can push it up to around 22K-23K.

Of course, I took a hit in max magicka using that chest piece but I can manage that.

So, the question is, what would be the optimum way to increase her health. I have a health regen necklace that increases health around 880 points, and some regen rings with a similar amount, and some other heavy and medium armor pieces (head, belt, shoes) that also increase health.

My magsorc has 10 pieces of Necro gear (jewelry +3 and light armor +7), so I can take a hit anywhere.

What is the best combination to increase her health?

1. First question, how much health should she have? Is the 16,500 (plus food at 22K) enough? I can live with that since I never had that much before.

2. Use more of the armor pieces I have; or use the rings/necklace I have to replace the Necro jewelry (the jewelry increases health regen which I don't have and adds 860+ health so with 2 or 3 pieces I could roughly add 1600-2400 health).

3. Reset her points and put more into health? I would take a hit in max magicka but with 10 pieces Necro I can make that up. Either way, I'm going to lose some max magicka, which reduces the damage my staff and abilities do.

Thanks for the help.

The right buff food, prismatic enchants, undaunted passiva, 18k hp as a magsorc should be find. go 19k if you want to play safe if your not familiar with the mecanics...

Rohamad_Ali · August 2017

As a Sorc you need to be stacking shields . Light armor shield , Hardened Ward together will keep you up in between casting damage with cast times . Don't fire off a crystal shard without shielding up first . You can get by easily with 18-19k health on a Magsorc if you learn to stack shields properly .

If you are solo and need a heal , run resto staff and healing Ward with shields . That's another shield with a big heal at the end of its shield . If you master shield stacking before hard casting you will find running zero health points on Sorc is very easy of all classes .

ofSunhold · August 2017

1. 16.5 K unbuffed is fine, just keep an eye on your food buff (health + magicka) and keep your shields up. I assume you're using pets since you're wearing Necro, and the heal from the matriarch is strong if you have a good magicka pool.

2. Running one defensive(ish) set (like Necro) and one offensive set (like Julianos) will give you a nice cushion and also boost your power. Using one crafted set also means you can have pieces in any weight you want, so for example you could have 5 pieces of Julianos - heavy chest and legs, or heavy chest and med legs, and then two light pieces and your staves - and 5 pieces of Necro, including the jewelry. Do a health enchant on your chest or legs if you're still feeling squishy, and all the rest magicka for power, big shields, and big heals.

Two full sets. That should help a lot.

3. I wouldn't put any more in health. If you're dying a lot, adjust your enchants and try a stronger defensive set and even a different mundus boon before you lower your magicka pool further. But you won't be, if you keep up your shields. You'll survive even in Cyrodill if you keep your shields up.

Edited for large, silly error.

Sixsixsix161 · August 2017

Magdalina wrote: »

Sixsixsix161 wrote: »

@Magdalina

I had her in full necro at level 20. When you run the chests in Rivenspire, you get gear attuned to your level. Same with the drops from the WB. If RNG smiles upon you, you can do it all in less than two hours.

Thanks everyone for the advice.

4

PS: Forgot to mention, the Necro gear is not all purple. Mostly green and blue pieces, and maybe a purple if you're lucky. But it does give me a lot of magicka, plus the 5-piece bonus with the pet active.

That means you gotta re-farm it every ~5 levels or so though, level 20 gear would long be useless by level 40...I'd never have enough patience for that XD

@Magdalina

I upgrade every Sunday morning lol.

Lot of stuff to think about, thanks again everyone.

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Dubhliam · August 2017

With food buff you should aim to have at least 17k, preferrably 18k.

Any more is not necessary, and you lose a lot of damage if you take out of your magicka pool to give into health.

Syrani · August 2017

I am not sure if I am reading your OP right or not, but it sounds like your build is a bit messed up. First of all, you should NEVER wear 10 pieces of the same set. If that is what you are doing, you really need to get rid of 5 of those pieces and grab a DIFFERENT 5 piece set. For the set bonuses, you only get them once - you will not double the bonuses because you are wearing "2 five piece sets" of the same set. If you are actually wearing 10 pieces of Necro, do as suggested above and replace 5 of those with 5 piece Julianos, as the additional 5 pieces of Necro are doing absolutely nothing for you. It is also a good idea to run 5 light pieces of armour along with one heavy and one medium so that you can get the benefit of the undaunted passives and some of the armour passives once you have them leveled (plus they provide a bit more armour than light does).

For enchants, you do not want health recovery as a damage dealer. Your jewelry should be arcane trait (if you can get it) and enchanted with either spell damage, or if you have trouble sustaining, enchant with magicka cost reduction/ magikca regen. All of your armour should be enchanted with max magicka.

For health, in no instance do you need 20k plus health. 17k-18k ish is fine for all content. You can place a few attribute points into health if you want to get you there, in conjunction with blue health/mag food. Also, as a mag sorc, you should be using Hardened Ward to help keep you alive, and you can also use Power Surge for some nice self healing.

If you do the things listed above, AND learn to stay out of the bad/block the bad, you should be able to stay alive just fine and do a decent amount of damage.

Also, check out Alcast's pet sorcerer build here for more info on what to run/how to build:
https://alcasthq.com/eso-magicka-sorcerer-pet-build-pve/

Nestor · August 2017

All my sorcerer's are 16K to 18K Health buffed with Purple Food. They do just fine.

You can add a Health Glyph to any armor, does not need to be Heavy.

You only get good results with the Heavy Armor passives if you wear 5 pieces. However, 2 Heavy and 5 Light is a good combo for Casters (if your Undaunted is L9 or better, then Heavy Chest, Medium Legs the rest Light). You will be less squishy and need overall Health less if you sport some Medium or Heavy Armor.

Lorajet · August 2017

Syrani wrote: »

I am not sure if I am reading your OP right or not, but it sounds like your build is a bit messed up. First of all, you should NEVER wear 10 pieces of the same set. If that is what you are doing, you really need to get rid of 5 of those pieces and grab a DIFFERENT 5 piece set. For the set bonuses, you only get them once - you will not double the bonuses because you are wearing "2 five piece sets" of the same set. If you are actually wearing 10 pieces of Necro, do as suggested above and replace 5 of those with 5 piece Julianos, as the additional 5 pieces of Necro are doing absolutely nothing for you. It is also a good idea to run 5 light pieces of armour along with one heavy and one medium so that you can get the benefit of the undaunted passives and some of the armour passives once you have them leveled (plus they provide a bit more armour than light does).

For enchants, you do not want health recovery as a damage dealer. Your jewelry should be arcane trait (if you can get it) and enchanted with either spell damage, or if you have trouble sustaining, enchant with magicka cost reduction/ magikca regen. All of your armour should be enchanted with max magicka.

For health, in no instance do you need 20k plus health. 17k-18k ish is fine for all content. You can place a few attribute points into health if you want to get you there, in conjunction with blue health/mag food. Also, as a mag sorc, you should be using Hardened Ward to help keep you alive, and you can also use Power Surge for some nice self healing.

If you do the things listed above, AND learn to stay out of the bad/block the bad, you should be able to stay alive just fine and do a decent amount of damage.

Also, check out Alcast's pet sorcerer build here for more info on what to run/how to build:
https://alcasthq.com/eso-magicka-sorcerer-pet-build-pve/

This. Excellent write-up, plus I relearned a few things.