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I'm Glad sorcs are OP
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ofSunhold✭✭✭✭✭
Mmhm. Up is down, war is peace. Don't worry, they won't touch your sorc. It'll be ok.Classes that don't need any class ability nerfs: Nightblades, Dragonknights, Sorcs, Templars, Wardens.2 -
Ulo✭✭✭✭My head hurts after reading this topic. You wan't to be a sorc because its op then fine but i play my nb dps because i enjoy it and i can play all pve content just fine with groups who don't give a damn if i'm not a sorc.4 -
Apherius✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Nelson_Rebel wrote: »It doesn't make give me any suprises. I already know it, everyone in game knows and acknowledges it..It's just a feature at this point.
It's soothing,
Knowing ZoS's balance revolves around having a God Class. So very nice to see 7/8 dps in trials as sorcs. And so much sweeter seeing players kicked for not being sorcs in dungeons. Great diversity. I applaud you ZoS on a balance well done. No seriously, it's fantastic. Balance is completely perfect, you guys and gals really know your stuff. Superb QA and development team. Amazing.
Knowing ZoS's balance revolves around having a God Class. So very nice to see 2/2 tank in trials as DKs
Knowing ZoS's balance revolves around having a God Class. So very nice to see 2/2 heals in trials as Templar.
Oh and don't forgot that the difference between the Sorc tank and the DK tank is bigger than the difference between the sorc dps and the DK dps.
By doing thread like this you are just inciting players do to another Stupid nerf sorc thread like you .
It's not because they are many to play Sorc that the Sorc is OP , it's just post like this that make players play Sorc ... cause instead of see the stupidity of your thread ... they agree.4 -
max_only✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭As someone who plays tank or healer, I AM glad that Sorcs are great at dps. Except for the "hard casting frags" Sorcs or the "heal me through blue fire with my 13.9k health" Sorcs or the "pull two rooms of trash trying to speed through the dungeon because I never realized how much I've been carried through the game" Sorcs or.... wait what was I saying?
I don't play Sorc because it's boring. But I am grateful that so many people do. I mean, it wouldn't feel like ESO if I wasn't blocked in the market by 5 twilights and 2 clannfear. Or dazzled to dizziness by 3-12 of them bursting into lightning form to spam streak between npcs.... wait, I was going in a different direction with this at the start wasn't I?
Anywho, good dps makes my life as a tank or a healer better, regardless of where it comes from.Edited by max_only on August 20, 2017 12:35PM#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
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""All gods' creatures (you lot) are equal when covered in A1 sauce"" -- Old Bosmeri Wisdom3 -
Krayzie✭✭✭✭✭Kicking damage dealer players other than sorcs from dungeons?I'm a PVE roleplayer concerned about my vampires stage 4 skin tone and keep getting load screens so I came here to distract people from major issues with a rant thread about my characters cosmetic appearance.2 -
Apherius✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Kicking damage dealer players other than sorcs from dungeons?
this is pretty rare .... guys like this ( the man you created this post ) don't even care if this is often ... rarely or always ... this is just a good way for them to get free " awesome " " insightful " simply by writing " sorc are OP " .
The most often it's about healer who are kick cause they are not templar ... or Tank who are kick cause they are not DK.4 -
Apherius✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭And please , when you say that sorc are op and that all raid have 7/8 dps, this would be good to give us some proof ... And i'm not talking about " PUg group " but about #1 in leaderboard ...
EU:- Vhof : 6 DK / 2 NB / 3 templar / 1 sorc
- Vmol : 6 DK / 2 NB / 2 Templar / 2 sorc .
- Vdsa : 1 DK / 1 NB / 1 Templar / 1 sorc .
- Vso : 5 DK / 2 NB / 3 Templar / 2 Sorc
- Vaa : 6 DK / 1 NB / 2 Templar / 2 Sorc ( yep 11 players )
- Vhrc : 6 DK / 2 NB / 2 Templar / 2 Sorc
So much DK ... take the fact that 2 of these DK are tank ... 4 DK are DPS ... very strange no ? probably because the DK stam have more dps than the Magsorc ?Edited by Apherius on August 20, 2017 1:09PM5 -
Slack✭✭✭✭✭And please , when you say that sorc are op and that all raid have 7/8 dps, this would be good to give us some proof ... And i'm not talking about " PUg group " but about #1 in leaderboard ...
EU:- Vhof : 6 DK / 2 NB / 3 templar / 1 sorc
- Vmol : 6 DK / 2 NB / 2 Templar / 2 sorc .
- Vdsa : 1 DK / 1 NB / 1 Templar / 1 sorc .
- Vso : 5 DK / 2 NB / 3 Templar / 2 Sorc
- Vaa : 6 DK / 1 NB / 2 Templar / 2 Sorc ( yep 11 players )
- Vhrc : 6 DK / 2 NB / 2 Templar / 2 Sorc
So much DK ... take the fact that 2 of these DK are tank ... 4 DK are DPS ... very strange no ? probably because the DK stam have more dps than the Magsorc ?
Fake News.
OP has his reliable sourcesPC EU
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Apherius✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭And please , when you say that sorc are op and that all raid have 7/8 dps, this would be good to give us some proof ... And i'm not talking about " PUg group " but about #1 in leaderboard ...
EU:- Vhof : 6 DK / 2 NB / 3 templar / 1 sorc
- Vmol : 6 DK / 2 NB / 2 Templar / 2 sorc .
- Vdsa : 1 DK / 1 NB / 1 Templar / 1 sorc .
- Vso : 5 DK / 2 NB / 3 Templar / 2 Sorc
- Vaa : 6 DK / 1 NB / 2 Templar / 2 Sorc ( yep 11 players )
- Vhrc : 6 DK / 2 NB / 2 Templar / 2 Sorc
So much DK ... take the fact that 2 of these DK are tank ... 4 DK are DPS ... very strange no ? probably because the DK stam have more dps than the Magsorc ?
Fake News.
OP has his reliable sources
Edit : Oh , you was joking ^^"Edited by Apherius on August 20, 2017 3:52PM2 -
GreenhaloX✭✭✭✭✭
✭I still don't understand why some peeps are calling out that sorcs are OP. Yeah, good burst and aoe damages, but so does Templars and even DK has good aoe effects from combo of certain skills. Its how you play the toons and what skillset and combo you're using. I have 3 sorcs, a MagDK and the rest are StamPlars and StamDK. I still take out adds and mobs quicker with my StamPlar and StamDK. Sure, in a good hand, someone can easily solo a world boss with a sorc, and so can someone with a Templar and DK. A lot of them sorcs running around with light armors aren't OP at all. I see a lot of sorcs wiping left and right around me at world boss fights, particularly when the boss are right on top of them.
You all peeps getting your arses handed back to you in PvP have to quit crying out nerfs to the other toons!! This game is ridiculous with continued nerfing. Definitely wrecking the experience in PvE. Sure, you all want nerfs to balance out for PvP, but we feel the effect for PvE where our toons become less effective with each nerfing while the enemies (adds, mobs, bosses) keep on packing more heat with each nerf to the toons. Really, nerfing is STUPID! Imagine, with each patch, something is getting buffed and not nerfed. Oh, how this game would be more glorious to enjoy. Crying shame.. no wonder so many have quit, left and contemplating to leave.
Who the hell is looking forward to each new patch and dlc (or chapter, whatever the hell you want to call it) when there are nerfing involved. I was not looking forward to Morrowind because of the nerfing, and the hell I'm looking forward to the Horn of the Reach for console because of more nerfing. What is wrong with you guys crying out for more nerfing, and what the *beep* is wrong with Zen/ZOS developers for implementing the nerf. Damn!!3 -
AhPook_Is_Here✭✭✭✭✭
✭Is that you Donald or is it me?
"Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know. And if one looks throughout the history of our country and other free countries, it is the latter category that tend to be the difficult ones."“Whatever.”
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Kikke✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭this might come as a suprise; but sorcs are not "the best" in PvP anymore, also, they are one of the worst magDDs to bring too PvE atm. so what are you talking about? if anything, buff sorcs!Cleared Trials:
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"The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step, and a lot of bitching."
-Someone said it, I guess.2 -
I don't like that sorceres are OP especially when you have put hrs, time and money into your character. I feel like ESO is taking us down a notch I use to feel superior now I feel disadvantaged playingWhat doesn't kill you can only make you stronger1 -
Drdeath20✭✭✭✭✭
✭Its not that sorcs are best at everything, its that the few things they are good or best at make them easier to play in cyrodil.
Best ranged attack, a great way to disengage a fight, great burst combo, best class shield and a skill that gives instant recovery support.
You have to kill a sorc 3 times over and do it in a way that they just dont streak away.1 -
CrisXD✭✭✭Clearly what Sorcs' do best is cause unnecessary arguments on the forum lolPS4 EU
Tamriel Dance Masters:
AD - Altmer MagSorc, Altmer Magplar, Redguard StamBlade(PVP)
EP - Nord Tank, Altmer MagSorc(PVP), Dunmer MagBlade(PVP)
DC - Redguard StamWarden, Breton MagDK
GM - The Taverneers PS4 EU
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SanTii.92✭✭✭✭✭
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He was joking.And please , when you say that sorc are op and that all raid have 7/8 dps, this would be good to give us some proof ... And i'm not talking about " PUg group " but about #1 in leaderboard ...
EU:- Vhof : 6 DK / 2 NB / 3 templar / 1 sorc
- Vmol : 6 DK / 2 NB / 2 Templar / 2 sorc .
- Vdsa : 1 DK / 1 NB / 1 Templar / 1 sorc .
- Vso : 5 DK / 2 NB / 3 Templar / 2 Sorc
- Vaa : 6 DK / 1 NB / 2 Templar / 2 Sorc ( yep 11 players )
- Vhrc : 6 DK / 2 NB / 2 Templar / 2 Sorc
So much DK ... take the fact that 2 of these DK are tank ... 4 DK are DPS ... very strange no ? probably because the DK stam have more dps than the Magsorc ?
Fake News.
OP has his reliable sources
reliable sources ? lol ? Like what ? " nerf sorc" thread ? " Sorc are Op " thread ?
If i make a thread saying that the templar is op and that a lot of person who don't play templar say that i have right ... my thread become a reliable ressource ?
https://esoleaderboards.com/trials.php
Here you can see that it's not " Fake " , a lot of people don't want to open their eyes and prefer to agree with all thread talking about " sorc nerf " or " sorc are OP " , but All these thread don't have any argument ... just the classic " I have been killed by this class so this class is op " or " this skill is op because i don't have this skill " or "I'm templar and i should be able to pull the best Dps even if I'm the better class for heal in Engame... so let's all say that the sorc is Op without any argument "When the snows fall and the white winds blow,
the lone wolf dies, but the pack survives.
Arg | Pc Na | Factionless Mag Warden.1 -
Biro123✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Confused now.
OP or not? Cos I wanna know if its OK to play mine again. I made it just after the shield duration and surge nerf.
Hate being form.Minalan owes me a beer.
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Minie Mo - Stam/Magblade - DC
Woody Ron - Stamplar - DC
Aidee - Magsorc - DC
Notadorf - Stamsorc - DC
Khattman Doo - Stamblade - Relegated to Crafter, cos AD.1 -
max_only✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
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Drummerx04✭✭✭✭✭
✭As far as I can tell, magsorc PvE dps is on par with other mag classes only if they are running a pet. On many fights, trial groups don't want you using a pet because it gets targeted by AoE mechanics and wipes the group... or the pet dies so easily that it's not reliable to have in the first place.
I'm about as comfortable on a magsorc as you can get, and on most boss fights it's an absolute struggle to reach 30k dps on just the boss as a non-pet magsorc dps, while stamdps is casually hovering at 50k+ on JUST the boss.
magsorc is not some super easy mode god tier dps class and it hasn't been since Morrowind came out. And don't even try to tell me that other classes have harder rotations, when everything boils down 10 skills that all have set durations and no cast time or cooldown.
In pvp, sorc shield stacking is not morally different to any other class with a defensive mechanic that proves hard to kill. Surely you've encountered stamblades, stamdk, and plenty of other builds that appear to ignore all damage and then turn around and hit you with 20k+ burst in 1 second, so it's not just magsorc that can "deal lots of damage and still be tanky"
What else do people get upset about with sorc, streaking? Have you seriously never tried to catch a sprinting medium armor user, or a nb running shades and cloak, anyone wearing Eternal Hunt in a keep or resource tower, or a magplar with mistform and apparently unlimited magicka?
Are you upset about sorc burst? Guess what, sorcs are limited to bursting 1 target at a time within 3.5 seconds with curse/frag/execute, if there are multiple targets swarming like angry bees, it can be very hard actually land all 3 attacks on the same target. Very often curse hits one guy, then a tank shows up and LoS absorbs 1 or more of the remaining attacks by proximity. Even if there is only one target, the combo is so predictable that most decent players dodge both the frag AND the execute and the curse just gets absorbed by the vigor ticks.
Sure, multiple sorcs attacking you is much harder to handle than 1, but multiple ANYTHING can be difficult to handle.
tl;dr
Anyone who thinks sorcs are generally OP at everything either doesn't play the game at a level where he/she can tell, or is otherwise completely blind to the good non sorc players in both PvE and PvP.PC/NA - Nightfighters, Raid Leader and Officer
Lilith Arujo - DC sorc tank/dps/healer - Dro-m'Athra Destroyer, Gryphon Heart, Grand Warlord
Lilith Tortorici - DC templar trials healer
Notable Completions:
vAS (72k), vMoL HM (160k), vAA HM (135k), vHRC HM, vSO HM (141k), vHoF HM (168k), vCR+3(129k), vDSA 45k, vMA 591k
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BlazingDynamo✭✭✭✭✭I'm also glad sorcs are op.
Oh btw so is every other class if you know how to play it.
Bottom line, sorcs are easy that does not mean they are op.2 -
ccfeeling✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Let's OP together...lol
No need to nerf sorc , please also buff Stamblade a stamina scale shield
No death no complain rofl2 -
ccfeeling✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭One more thing , dps against the skelly is meaningless , the real power of sorcs in PVE ... They can provide top tier damages with high survivability at the same time .
No doubt , trial cored dpser must sorc , because no ppl would like to waste time !
Diversity just like a dream .2
