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Do you think there should be more nerfs in the immediate future?

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Miss_Morphine
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Pretty self explanatory question.
Edited by Miss_Morphine on August 16, 2017 5:51PM
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Do you think there should be more nerfs in the immediate future? 156 votes

No
37%
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Yes
19%
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No, but preferably separate PvP and PvE already
26%
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Yes, but preferably separate PvP and PvE already
7%
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Other
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  • VvardeFellow
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    In the history of MMO's, before they were even called MMO's, way back to UO, there have always been "nerfs" as defined by some, or even most players. There will always be such. The laws of unintended consequences make it certain. With as good as Z is, this one does not think it is immune.
  • Jamascus
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    Other
    They should nerf polls from the forums.
  • WaltherCarraway
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    Yes, but preferably separate PvP and PvE already
    Should be treated differently
    Back from my last hiatus. 2021 a new start.
  • Zerok
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    Yes
    Nerfs are needed to balance the game :/
    Zeerok (the sneaky ruffian) - LV50 Bosmer stamblade DPS (AD)
    Gontrand de Bourbon (the greedy aristocrat) - LV50 Breton magsorc tank (DC)
    Augustus Aquilarios (the imperial claimant) - LV50 Imperial stamDK PvP (EP)
    Zeerokk (the AD zealot) - LV50 Altmer magblade PvP (AD)
    Lianna Storm (the inferno maiden) - LV50 Dunmer magDK DPS (EP)
    Fights-With-Khajiit (the gullible faithful) - LV5 Argonian templar (EP)
    Miner'va (the skooma addict) - LV3 Khajiit sorcerer (AD) - chaotic neutral
    Siggy Thorvaldsson (the charismatic baroness) - LV50 Nord stamwarden tank (DC)
  • zaria
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    No
    No new balance changes before clockwork city.
    Exception is bug fixes,
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • MehrunesFlagon
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    No, but preferably separate PvP and PvE already
    well I tend to go the route of removing the sledge hammer effect,but if they are going to continue to use it then no.
  • Slack
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    Yes
    They want to kill me but I'll give them naught but ashes.
    Nerf them, nerf them all !
    Edited by Slack on August 16, 2017 6:31PM
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  • cpuScientist
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    I'd prefer they not blindside us for clockwork city. Whatever they have in mind keep working towards it from now.
  • Runschei
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    No
    Lets just keep that IA 5p bonus :D
  • incite
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    nerf maintenances during primetime
    PC EU

    Check your CMX
    solo/small scale pvp

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    Back since February 2024
  • Avnr
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    We see the nerf truck going to hit sorcs hard , zos cannot ignore the l2p whines to long
  • Ragnaroek93
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    Yes
    Nerfs are needed for balance (you can't just always buff everything which is underperforming, that would end in a mess). However what I don't support are complete meta changes which ZOS is doing every few months instead weekly updates with minor nerfs/buffs.
    I used to think that PvP was a tragedy, but now I realize, it's a comedy.
  • Qbiken
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    I´m gonna make this a nerf sorc thread because I want sorcs nerfed.........lel xD
  • cpuScientist
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    Ragnaroek93 wrote: »
    Nerfs are needed for balance (you can't just always buff everything which is underperforming, that would end in a mess). However what I don't support are complete meta changes which ZOS is doing every few months instead weekly updates with minor nerfs/buffs.

    Weekly no. That's too much work. They do weekly bug fixes.
  • MehrunesFlagon
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    No, but preferably separate PvP and PvE already
    cpuScientist wrote: »
    Ragnaroek93 wrote: »
    Nerfs are needed for balance (you can't just always buff everything which is underperforming, that would end in a mess). However what I don't support are complete meta changes which ZOS is doing every few months instead weekly updates with minor nerfs/buffs.

    Weekly no. That's too much work. They do weekly bug fixes.

    what they need is specialized teams for weekly bslalnce changes,and another seperate team for weekly bug fixes.Basically ZOS needs to sheell out some more cash.
  • Yolokin_Swagonborn
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    No, but preferably separate PvP and PvE already
    Every nerf in this game is due to the power creep caused by the disgusting champion system.

    All you people loving the fact that you can run on an endless, meaningless vertical progression treadmill and "feeeeeel" more powerful every point are part of the reason key and iconic class skills still get gutted.

    The controls have to go somewhere. Skills are fun. Powerful abilities are fun. Ever increasing numbers are boring. ZOS is sacrificing fun stuff for boring stat inflation.

    PvE vs PvP balance is part of the problem but the Crapeon system is the rotten core.
  • gpreid81
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    Sick of reading about nerfs Nerfs Nerfs just nerf the development stop making content pls it's to much for us
  • mewcatus
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    Yes
    As sure as death and taxes. Resistance is futile. Just go with the flow.
  • zaria
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    No
    Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »
    Every nerf in this game is due to the power creep caused by the disgusting champion system.

    All you people loving the fact that you can run on an endless, meaningless vertical progression treadmill and "feeeeeel" more powerful every point are part of the reason key and iconic class skills still get gutted.

    The controls have to go somewhere. Skills are fun. Powerful abilities are fun. Ever increasing numbers are boring. ZOS is sacrificing fun stuff for boring stat inflation.

    PvE vs PvP balance is part of the problem but the Crapeon system is the rotten core.
    Add better and better sets, just more sets and very smart theory crafters.
    However current update was hardly an nerf, I assume dps increased, more important it balanced stuff, more weapon traits works now, making bis weapon of good traits something you can farm realistic, not using months to get it.
    This is the raising the floor patch, morrowind was the opposite.

    Adding delays on lots of proc sets also make them less op in small scale pvp but don't affect pve much.


    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • MasterSpatula
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    No
    Two patches in a row that made gameplay less fun. I think that's more than sufficient.
    "A probable impossibility is preferable to an improbable possibility." - Aristotle
  • Axoinus
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    Pro tip.

    In MMOs, nerfs often revitalize an infusion of subs and re-subs.
    [
    Ponder on that. Yes. Ponder and you will understand.

  • Malic
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    Just say no to nerfs say yes to buffs.

    Keep snowflakes happy.
  • ofSunhold
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    I was going to make a "nerf all the things!" joke, but...
    Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »
    Every nerf in this game is due to the power creep caused by the disgusting champion system.

    All you people loving the fact that you can run on an endless, meaningless vertical progression treadmill and "feeeeeel" more powerful every point are part of the reason key and iconic class skills still get gutted.

    The controls have to go somewhere. Skills are fun. Powerful abilities are fun. Ever increasing numbers are boring. ZOS is sacrificing fun stuff for boring stat inflation.

    PvE vs PvP balance is part of the problem but the Crapeon system is the rotten core.

    This. It's not going to get better until they address the CP system. And by "address" I mean "radically alter". I don't think they have the creativity and will to do this. So. More nerfs incoming, forever. But ooo yay thirty more CP every quarter.
    Classes that don't need any class ability nerfs: Nightblades, Dragonknights, Sorcs, Templars, Wardens.
  • StormWylf
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    Psssst. I have a secret OP. Not only will there be Nerfs, BUT some toons are going to get buffed too. B) Tell No-one.
  • Countcalorie
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    Yes
    nerf magsorc ;)
  • johu31
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    No
    There's nothing left to nerf. Nerf the nerf
  • snakester320
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    Either way can't make everyone happy nerf one class *** there players off nerf another same result ... I say roll with the changes or stop playing ..
  • Vipstaakki
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    Yes
    Need more sorc tears!
  • Morgul667
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    No, but preferably separate PvP and PvE already
    I hope not.

    Tired of the nerf threads
  • Alcast
    Alcast
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    No
    Everytime they nerf stuff, people quit. Better to buff to underperforming things.

    Like I said pre morrowind... the problem is not that they nerf stuff. The problem is that they NERF stuff every *** update. Instead of nerfing most stuff at once and then from there on starting to buff things so people are happy.

    But at some point players just loose it if they get nerfed every update only because ZOS is too incompetent to bring balance and can not make up their mind.
    Edited by Alcast on August 17, 2017 10:25AM
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