Do you think there should be more nerfs in the immediate future?

Miss_Morphine

Pretty self explanatory question.

VvardeFellow

In the history of MMO's, before they were even called MMO's, way back to UO, there have always been "nerfs" as defined by some, or even most players. There will always be such. The laws of unintended consequences make it certain. With as good as Z is, this one does not think it is immune.

Jamascus

Other

They should nerf polls from the forums.

WaltherCarraway

Yes, but preferably separate PvP and PvE already

Should be treated differently

Zerok

Yes

Nerfs are needed to balance the game

zaria

No

No new balance changes before clockwork city.
Exception is bug fixes,

MehrunesFlagon

No, but preferably separate PvP and PvE already

well I tend to go the route of removing the sledge hammer effect,but if they are going to continue to use it then no.

Slack

Yes

They want to kill me but I'll give them naught but ashes.
Nerf them, nerf them all !

cpuScientist

I'd prefer they not blindside us for clockwork city. Whatever they have in mind keep working towards it from now.

Runschei

No

Lets just keep that IA 5p bonus

incite

nerf maintenances during primetime

Avnr

We see the nerf truck going to hit sorcs hard , zos cannot ignore the l2p whines to long

Ragnaroek93

Yes

Nerfs are needed for balance (you can't just always buff everything which is underperforming, that would end in a mess). However what I don't support are complete meta changes which ZOS is doing every few months instead weekly updates with minor nerfs/buffs.

Qbiken

I´m gonna make this a nerf sorc thread because I want sorcs nerfed.........lel xD

cpuScientist

Ragnaroek93 wrote: »

Nerfs are needed for balance (you can't just always buff everything which is underperforming, that would end in a mess). However what I don't support are complete meta changes which ZOS is doing every few months instead weekly updates with minor nerfs/buffs.

Weekly no. That's too much work. They do weekly bug fixes.

MehrunesFlagon

No, but preferably separate PvP and PvE already

cpuScientist wrote: »

Ragnaroek93 wrote: »

Nerfs are needed for balance (you can't just always buff everything which is underperforming, that would end in a mess). However what I don't support are complete meta changes which ZOS is doing every few months instead weekly updates with minor nerfs/buffs.

Weekly no. That's too much work. They do weekly bug fixes.

what they need is specialized teams for weekly bslalnce changes,and another seperate team for weekly bug fixes.Basically ZOS needs to sheell out some more cash.

Yolokin_Swagonborn

No, but preferably separate PvP and PvE already

Every nerf in this game is due to the power creep caused by the disgusting champion system.

All you people loving the fact that you can run on an endless, meaningless vertical progression treadmill and "feeeeeel" more powerful every point are part of the reason key and iconic class skills still get gutted.

The controls have to go somewhere. Skills are fun. Powerful abilities are fun. Ever increasing numbers are boring. ZOS is sacrificing fun stuff for boring stat inflation.

PvE vs PvP balance is part of the problem but the Crapeon system is the rotten core.

gpreid81

Sick of reading about nerfs Nerfs Nerfs just nerf the development stop making content pls it's to much for us

mewcatus

Yes

As sure as death and taxes. Resistance is futile. Just go with the flow.

zaria

No

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Every nerf in this game is due to the power creep caused by the disgusting champion system.

All you people loving the fact that you can run on an endless, meaningless vertical progression treadmill and "feeeeeel" more powerful every point are part of the reason key and iconic class skills still get gutted.

The controls have to go somewhere. Skills are fun. Powerful abilities are fun. Ever increasing numbers are boring. ZOS is sacrificing fun stuff for boring stat inflation.

PvE vs PvP balance is part of the problem but the Crapeon system is the rotten core.

Add better and better sets, just more sets and very smart theory crafters.
However current update was hardly an nerf, I assume dps increased, more important it balanced stuff, more weapon traits works now, making bis weapon of good traits something you can farm realistic, not using months to get it.
This is the raising the floor patch, morrowind was the opposite.

Adding delays on lots of proc sets also make them less op in small scale pvp but don't affect pve much.

MasterSpatula

No

Two patches in a row that made gameplay less fun. I think that's more than sufficient.

Axoinus

Pro tip.

In MMOs, nerfs often revitalize an infusion of subs and re-subs.
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Ponder on that. Yes. Ponder and you will understand.

Malic

Other

Just say no to nerfs say yes to buffs.

Keep snowflakes happy.

ofSunhold

I was going to make a "nerf all the things!" joke, but...

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Every nerf in this game is due to the power creep caused by the disgusting champion system.

All you people loving the fact that you can run on an endless, meaningless vertical progression treadmill and "feeeeeel" more powerful every point are part of the reason key and iconic class skills still get gutted.

The controls have to go somewhere. Skills are fun. Powerful abilities are fun. Ever increasing numbers are boring. ZOS is sacrificing fun stuff for boring stat inflation.

PvE vs PvP balance is part of the problem but the Crapeon system is the rotten core.

This. It's not going to get better until they address the CP system. And by "address" I mean "radically alter". I don't think they have the creativity and will to do this. So. More nerfs incoming, forever. But ooo yay thirty more CP every quarter.

StormWylf

Psssst. I have a secret OP. Not only will there be Nerfs, BUT some toons are going to get buffed too. Tell No-one.

Countcalorie

Yes

nerf magsorc

johu31

No

There's nothing left to nerf. Nerf the nerf

snakester320

Other

Either way can't make everyone happy nerf one class *** there players off nerf another same result ... I say roll with the changes or stop playing ..

Vipstaakki

Yes

Need more sorc tears!

Morgul667

No, but preferably separate PvP and PvE already

I hope not.

Tired of the nerf threads

Alcast

No

Everytime they nerf stuff, people quit. Better to buff to underperforming things.

Like I said pre morrowind... the problem is not that they nerf stuff. The problem is that they NERF stuff every *** update. Instead of nerfing most stuff at once and then from there on starting to buff things so people are happy.

But at some point players just loose it if they get nerfed every update only because ZOS is too incompetent to bring balance and can not make up their mind.