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Restoration staff healing ultimate
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Sanctum74✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Instead of asking for a nerf for something that clearly nobody else is having an issue with. Why don't you instead learn from your bad pvp encounters and work on changes to your gear, skills, strategy, etc.
Every build has strengths and weakness's and you can't expect to win every encounter. Even the best pvp players die.
I've never come across someone using a restro ult every 10 seconds and even if I did I would time my burst accordingly to counter it. It sounds like the problem is your burst combo and/or damage output not the restro ult.
It could be your gear, cp allocation, skills/morphs, lack of a cc, etc. Once you figure that out, you won't even notice the restro ult anymore.
You are not a pvp veteran, aren't you?
Yes I am, which is why I gave you a very detailed explanation instead of just saying this needs a nerf and saying absolutely nothing to back it up with facts. The only think you've said is YOU can't kill a person using it so it should be nerfed.
Again re-read my previous post, work on your build, and the restro ult will not be a problem. I don't use it and I am able to kill people every day who do use it with no problem at all.
I made 3 page of facts. I won't repeat myself. You are welcome to read.
Probably you are missing the point. Probably your "killing" is when the ultimate ends and you swarm your opponent. More then a kill that's a gang bang
I've read your posts and while it is a fact that it gives you quite a few buffs and heals, it does not make you unkillable, that is a fact. Many of us here prove that every day by being able to kill people that use restro ults.
As far as killing people that use it I have no problem bursting them while they use it, but if I were to have a problem with it then I would learn to used timed burst and adapt not gang bang lol.
If you are not willing to adapt your build or gameplay then nerfing the restro ult isn't going to help you at all. I have to make changes to my builds every patch whether it be skills, gear, or even strategy so don't take it personal instead try to figure out where the problem is, adapt and overcome.
If you're a lower dps build then turtle up while they use it and use that time to get your buffs and debuffs up. When the ult comes down apply your dots, cc them, then burst them.
If you still can't burst them then it could be your gear, cp allocation, race, skills, etc that all contribute to your damage.
It could also be that you are fighting good players in which case I recomend watching the fight over on video if your platform supports that. I do that every once in awhile and I can usually see where i went wrong and missed a combat que or wasted stamina and the enemy took advantage of that and cc'd me one last time xD
I won't spend time to say how things are, again. It's overperforming. Becouse the heals. Becouse the protection. Becouse it can be spammed. And becouse if you are 3 people with it you will have a 30+- seconds major protection.
If you say the contrary...well i can only think that you run it
As I've said before I don't run it and I don't even have the skill unlocked to be able to use it because I don't run restro on my magic build. I've given you plenty of counters to try to help you with it so I guess I'll just leave it at that.
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IxskullzxI✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: ».IxskullzxI wrote: »
It only lasts 5 seconds, you just got to Cc/root the user so he burn some resource and don't waste yours, just letting him regen hp, doesn't really matter. And again, it's not all that different from shield or warden healing ult. Do you want to nerf those too? What then, nerf to dawnbreaker, soul assault and incap?The main iusse people fail to see is: With a Healing ultimate i can be zerged down, but i won't die. Even if 4 people are hitting on me. Any other ultimate doesn't do this. Even the templar even ultimate (which got a nerf) can't do this. So. It's overperforming. A sorc with shields when he gets low can't just negate all my damage in a click. With a ceap ultimate. A templar in heavy can't just stay alive forever, becouse of this ultimate. It's just broken, who fails to admit it probably fails at the game.
It's 5 seconds of heals and major protection, then other 5 seconds of major protection. Total of 10 seconds of immortality. In a group, you won't die.
ROLF.
You must SERIOUSLY not understand immortality if you think heals and major protection are immortality.
Edit to clarify.
Major Protection (Reduce damage taken by 30%) = getting hit by 70 percent of damage for 5 seconds, 10s if it happens to come your way on the last tick.
Major Force (Increase Critical Damage by 15%) = only increase the outgoing damage of CRITS, not normal DPS.
and, to borrow from a poster above, who wrote out the tooltip:Sandman929 wrote: »
Lights Champion:
Release the rejuvenating energies of your staff to swirl around you, healing you or an ally for [x] Health every 1 second for [5] seconds.
Any friendly target you heal gains Major Force and Major Protection for [5] seconds, increasing their Critical Damage done by 30% and reducing their Damage taken by 30%.
Any friendly target you heal gains Major Force and Major Protection, increasing their Critical Damageand reducing their Damage taken.
The heals are.. what? magicka pool based?, so.. if you think ONE heal from a full stam character makes you OP while it bounces among other players around you, your skooma addiction is real.
The heals aren't magicka based. It's an ult, so it scales off which ever stat is higher. Also, major protection isn't halved by battle spirit and neither is mist form. They are just multiplicative with other forms of mitigation, not additive. If they were additive, you wouldn't even need major protection or mist form. Resist cap + battle spirit would be 100% damage reduction.
But would you run Resto Staff on a Stam build?
No, I wouldn't. I know some do though, and was just pointing out that it does scale off stam.#HowDoYouLikeYourDK?0 -
Skander✭✭✭✭✭
✭Instead of asking for a nerf for something that clearly nobody else is having an issue with. Why don't you instead learn from your bad pvp encounters and work on changes to your gear, skills, strategy, etc.
Every build has strengths and weakness's and you can't expect to win every encounter. Even the best pvp players die.
I've never come across someone using a restro ult every 10 seconds and even if I did I would time my burst accordingly to counter it. It sounds like the problem is your burst combo and/or damage output not the restro ult.
It could be your gear, cp allocation, skills/morphs, lack of a cc, etc. Once you figure that out, you won't even notice the restro ult anymore.
You are not a pvp veteran, aren't you?
Yes I am, which is why I gave you a very detailed explanation instead of just saying this needs a nerf and saying absolutely nothing to back it up with facts. The only think you've said is YOU can't kill a person using it so it should be nerfed.
Again re-read my previous post, work on your build, and the restro ult will not be a problem. I don't use it and I am able to kill people every day who do use it with no problem at all.
I made 3 page of facts. I won't repeat myself. You are welcome to read.
Probably you are missing the point. Probably your "killing" is when the ultimate ends and you swarm your opponent. More then a kill that's a gang bang
I've read your posts and while it is a fact that it gives you quite a few buffs and heals, it does not make you unkillable, that is a fact. Many of us here prove that every day by being able to kill people that use restro ults.
As far as killing people that use it I have no problem bursting them while they use it, but if I were to have a problem with it then I would learn to used timed burst and adapt not gang bang lol.
If you are not willing to adapt your build or gameplay then nerfing the restro ult isn't going to help you at all. I have to make changes to my builds every patch whether it be skills, gear, or even strategy so don't take it personal instead try to figure out where the problem is, adapt and overcome.
If you're a lower dps build then turtle up while they use it and use that time to get your buffs and debuffs up. When the ult comes down apply your dots, cc them, then burst them.
If you still can't burst them then it could be your gear, cp allocation, race, skills, etc that all contribute to your damage.
It could also be that you are fighting good players in which case I recomend watching the fight over on video if your platform supports that. I do that every once in awhile and I can usually see where i went wrong and missed a combat que or wasted stamina and the enemy took advantage of that and cc'd me one last time xD
I won't spend time to say how things are, again. It's overperforming. Becouse the heals. Becouse the protection. Becouse it can be spammed. And becouse if you are 3 people with it you will have a 30+- seconds major protection.
If you say the contrary...well i can only think that you run it
As I've said before I don't run it and I don't even have the skill unlocked to be able to use it because I don't run restro on my magic build. I've given you plenty of counters to try to help you with it so I guess I'll just leave it at that.
Stop giving your unvaluable opinion about a skill you have experienced only in half then. Run it, for some time, then come backI meme, but my memes are so truthful they hurt
-Elder Nightblades Online
Want competitive pvp while being outnumbered? Tough luck, the devs clearly said you have to die in those situations0 -
Waffennacht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭IxskullzxI wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: ».IxskullzxI wrote: »
It only lasts 5 seconds, you just got to Cc/root the user so he burn some resource and don't waste yours, just letting him regen hp, doesn't really matter. And again, it's not all that different from shield or warden healing ult. Do you want to nerf those too? What then, nerf to dawnbreaker, soul assault and incap?The main iusse people fail to see is: With a Healing ultimate i can be zerged down, but i won't die. Even if 4 people are hitting on me. Any other ultimate doesn't do this. Even the templar even ultimate (which got a nerf) can't do this. So. It's overperforming. A sorc with shields when he gets low can't just negate all my damage in a click. With a ceap ultimate. A templar in heavy can't just stay alive forever, becouse of this ultimate. It's just broken, who fails to admit it probably fails at the game.
It's 5 seconds of heals and major protection, then other 5 seconds of major protection. Total of 10 seconds of immortality. In a group, you won't die.
ROLF.
You must SERIOUSLY not understand immortality if you think heals and major protection are immortality.
Edit to clarify.
Major Protection (Reduce damage taken by 30%) = getting hit by 70 percent of damage for 5 seconds, 10s if it happens to come your way on the last tick.
Major Force (Increase Critical Damage by 15%) = only increase the outgoing damage of CRITS, not normal DPS.
and, to borrow from a poster above, who wrote out the tooltip:Sandman929 wrote: »
Lights Champion:
Release the rejuvenating energies of your staff to swirl around you, healing you or an ally for [x] Health every 1 second for [5] seconds.
Any friendly target you heal gains Major Force and Major Protection for [5] seconds, increasing their Critical Damage done by 30% and reducing their Damage taken by 30%.
Any friendly target you heal gains Major Force and Major Protection, increasing their Critical Damageand reducing their Damage taken.
The heals are.. what? magicka pool based?, so.. if you think ONE heal from a full stam character makes you OP while it bounces among other players around you, your skooma addiction is real.
The heals aren't magicka based. It's an ult, so it scales off which ever stat is higher. Also, major protection isn't halved by battle spirit and neither is mist form. They are just multiplicative with other forms of mitigation, not additive. If they were additive, you wouldn't even need major protection or mist form. Resist cap + battle spirit would be 100% damage reduction.
But would you run Resto Staff on a Stam build?
No, I wouldn't. I know some do though, and was just pointing out that it does scale off stam.
Kinda off topic, but if anyone is at the point of running resto on a Stam build for the ult, they should just re roll a warden. Just sayin1 -
Darlgon✭✭✭✭✭
✭Instead of asking for a nerf for something that clearly nobody else is having an issue with. Why don't you instead learn from your bad pvp encounters and work on changes to your gear, skills, strategy, etc.
Every build has strengths and weakness's and you can't expect to win every encounter. Even the best pvp players die.
I've never come across someone using a restro ult every 10 seconds and even if I did I would time my burst accordingly to counter it. It sounds like the problem is your burst combo and/or damage output not the restro ult.
It could be your gear, cp allocation, skills/morphs, lack of a cc, etc. Once you figure that out, you won't even notice the restro ult anymore.
You are not a pvp veteran, aren't you?
This discussion proves that, even if you THINK you are, its only in your own mind.
Power level to CP160 in a week:
Where is the end game? You just played it.
Why don't I have 300+ skill points? Because you skipped content along the way.
Where is new content? Sigh.3 -
ToRelax✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »All I understood so far is that you think focused damage is the same as getting zerged down:I just want to add major protection is affected by battle spirit so its only 15% damage reduction in pvp. I can use northern storm with 30% reduction in damage and mist form which gives 75% reduction. So at 105% reduction in damage, guess what? I still take damage and die. Move on nothing to see here.
Major protection is not halves by Battle spiritSounds like someone almost killed sombody but then they used the resto ult and are super salty about it.
Both the warden and templar have better healing ults. The resto ult only shines when you are alone and outnumbered. Sometimes its still not enough though.
Warden healing ultimate is fine. It's a ground limited ultimate that doesn't give major protection.
Templar healing ultimate sucks. With the nerf to it.
And i'm not salty. It's just broken and i'm reporting a broken thing
It only effects 1 person and lasts 5 seconds, you that's not broken, you aren't invincible. Templar ult doesn't suck, still a very good counter to destro ults. If you play a warden right you can easily get 80% uptime on the healing ult in a prolonged fight.
Are you saying its broken because you've been using it and don't think it should be as powerful or have you seen others use it and built your opinion from that?
I don't want to explain the entire dinamic of resto ulti again, read the previous comments.
Warden ultimate can be countered by: major defile, negate, outdamaging opponents and next patch even a monster set. This doesn't happen to someone who has major protection
Templar healing ultimate doesn't work. Works when you outnumber someone, but every ultimate even lacerate is good there
"This doesn't happen to someone with major protection" means you want all forms of major protection nerfed. I have a magwarden DD and I have 3 sources of major protection, none of which come from the resto ult, and I have an uptime of around 85-90% for major protection and I still die when focused, so saying that 1 benefit makes a skill too op is just stupid.
The only way to die using that ultimate is /sitchair while you are being pounded. And you may not even die for that
You might survive for 10 sec, but when that *** runs out, you're gonna get dry *** from every direction.
You may, if you are getting zerged. You don't if you have one friend or two
All i did is that people will gather the most fraked up info and opinion to defend their broken ***
Well I don't use that ult and would only benefit from a nerf. I don't have much of a problem with it either, though.
So, you are on a topic about an ultimate you did not ever use? Hol up
He said does not, not "did not ever use". That's just twisting words
It's ok. Even if you are his lawyer. I would kindly hear it from himWaffennacht wrote: »All I understood so far is that you think focused damage is the same as getting zerged down:I just want to add major protection is affected by battle spirit so its only 15% damage reduction in pvp. I can use northern storm with 30% reduction in damage and mist form which gives 75% reduction. So at 105% reduction in damage, guess what? I still take damage and die. Move on nothing to see here.
Major protection is not halves by Battle spiritSounds like someone almost killed sombody but then they used the resto ult and are super salty about it.
Both the warden and templar have better healing ults. The resto ult only shines when you are alone and outnumbered. Sometimes its still not enough though.
Warden healing ultimate is fine. It's a ground limited ultimate that doesn't give major protection.
Templar healing ultimate sucks. With the nerf to it.
And i'm not salty. It's just broken and i'm reporting a broken thing
It only effects 1 person and lasts 5 seconds, you that's not broken, you aren't invincible. Templar ult doesn't suck, still a very good counter to destro ults. If you play a warden right you can easily get 80% uptime on the healing ult in a prolonged fight.
Are you saying its broken because you've been using it and don't think it should be as powerful or have you seen others use it and built your opinion from that?
I don't want to explain the entire dinamic of resto ulti again, read the previous comments.
Warden ultimate can be countered by: major defile, negate, outdamaging opponents and next patch even a monster set. This doesn't happen to someone who has major protection
Templar healing ultimate doesn't work. Works when you outnumber someone, but every ultimate even lacerate is good there
"This doesn't happen to someone with major protection" means you want all forms of major protection nerfed. I have a magwarden DD and I have 3 sources of major protection, none of which come from the resto ult, and I have an uptime of around 85-90% for major protection and I still die when focused, so saying that 1 benefit makes a skill too op is just stupid.
The only way to die using that ultimate is /sitchair while you are being pounded. And you may not even die for that
You might survive for 10 sec, but when that *** runs out, you're gonna get dry *** from every direction.
You may, if you are getting zerged. You don't if you have one friend or two
All i did is that people will gather the most fraked up info and opinion to defend their broken ***
Well I don't use that ult and would only benefit from a nerf. I don't have much of a problem with it either, though.
So, you are on a topic about an ultimate you did not ever use? Hol up
He said does not, not "did not ever use". That's just twisting words
There you go. I tried it out and stayed with my previous setup.DAGON - ALTADOON - CHIM - GHARTOK
The Covenant is broken. The Enemy has won...
Elo'dryel - Sorc - AR 50 - Hopesfire - EP EU0 -
Sanctum74✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Instead of asking for a nerf for something that clearly nobody else is having an issue with. Why don't you instead learn from your bad pvp encounters and work on changes to your gear, skills, strategy, etc.
Every build has strengths and weakness's and you can't expect to win every encounter. Even the best pvp players die.
I've never come across someone using a restro ult every 10 seconds and even if I did I would time my burst accordingly to counter it. It sounds like the problem is your burst combo and/or damage output not the restro ult.
It could be your gear, cp allocation, skills/morphs, lack of a cc, etc. Once you figure that out, you won't even notice the restro ult anymore.
You are not a pvp veteran, aren't you?
Yes I am, which is why I gave you a very detailed explanation instead of just saying this needs a nerf and saying absolutely nothing to back it up with facts. The only think you've said is YOU can't kill a person using it so it should be nerfed.
Again re-read my previous post, work on your build, and the restro ult will not be a problem. I don't use it and I am able to kill people every day who do use it with no problem at all.
I made 3 page of facts. I won't repeat myself. You are welcome to read.
Probably you are missing the point. Probably your "killing" is when the ultimate ends and you swarm your opponent. More then a kill that's a gang bang
I've read your posts and while it is a fact that it gives you quite a few buffs and heals, it does not make you unkillable, that is a fact. Many of us here prove that every day by being able to kill people that use restro ults.
As far as killing people that use it I have no problem bursting them while they use it, but if I were to have a problem with it then I would learn to used timed burst and adapt not gang bang lol.
If you are not willing to adapt your build or gameplay then nerfing the restro ult isn't going to help you at all. I have to make changes to my builds every patch whether it be skills, gear, or even strategy so don't take it personal instead try to figure out where the problem is, adapt and overcome.
If you're a lower dps build then turtle up while they use it and use that time to get your buffs and debuffs up. When the ult comes down apply your dots, cc them, then burst them.
If you still can't burst them then it could be your gear, cp allocation, race, skills, etc that all contribute to your damage.
It could also be that you are fighting good players in which case I recomend watching the fight over on video if your platform supports that. I do that every once in awhile and I can usually see where i went wrong and missed a combat que or wasted stamina and the enemy took advantage of that and cc'd me one last time xD
I won't spend time to say how things are, again. It's overperforming. Becouse the heals. Becouse the protection. Becouse it can be spammed. And becouse if you are 3 people with it you will have a 30+- seconds major protection.
If you say the contrary...well i can only think that you run it
As I've said before I don't run it and I don't even have the skill unlocked to be able to use it because I don't run restro on my magic build. I've given you plenty of counters to try to help you with it so I guess I'll just leave it at that.
Stop giving your unvaluable opinion about a skill you have experienced only in half then. Run it, for some time, then come back
Unvaluable, lol! You said the problem was that people are unkillable that use the restro ult and since I have no problem killing them and do it daily I offered my advice based on actual experience to prove it's not an op ability and they are in fact killable!
For whatever reason you believe you should never have to adapt and if something kills you or is unkillable (to you only) then it must be nerfed. Thats not how it works.
I'm starting to understand why people just respond with the rude comments like L2P or git gud, because it's just not worth the time trying to type things out to help people that don't want to help themselves.
Nuff said, I have unkillable restro ult users to kill xD
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Skander✭✭✭✭✭
✭Instead of asking for a nerf for something that clearly nobody else is having an issue with. Why don't you instead learn from your bad pvp encounters and work on changes to your gear, skills, strategy, etc.
Every build has strengths and weakness's and you can't expect to win every encounter. Even the best pvp players die.
I've never come across someone using a restro ult every 10 seconds and even if I did I would time my burst accordingly to counter it. It sounds like the problem is your burst combo and/or damage output not the restro ult.
It could be your gear, cp allocation, skills/morphs, lack of a cc, etc. Once you figure that out, you won't even notice the restro ult anymore.
You are not a pvp veteran, aren't you?
This discussion proves that, even if you THINK you are, its only in your own mind.
Trolls belong to caves, or bridges.Instead of asking for a nerf for something that clearly nobody else is having an issue with. Why don't you instead learn from your bad pvp encounters and work on changes to your gear, skills, strategy, etc.
Every build has strengths and weakness's and you can't expect to win every encounter. Even the best pvp players die.
I've never come across someone using a restro ult every 10 seconds and even if I did I would time my burst accordingly to counter it. It sounds like the problem is your burst combo and/or damage output not the restro ult.
It could be your gear, cp allocation, skills/morphs, lack of a cc, etc. Once you figure that out, you won't even notice the restro ult anymore.
You are not a pvp veteran, aren't you?
Yes I am, which is why I gave you a very detailed explanation instead of just saying this needs a nerf and saying absolutely nothing to back it up with facts. The only think you've said is YOU can't kill a person using it so it should be nerfed.
Again re-read my previous post, work on your build, and the restro ult will not be a problem. I don't use it and I am able to kill people every day who do use it with no problem at all.
I made 3 page of facts. I won't repeat myself. You are welcome to read.
Probably you are missing the point. Probably your "killing" is when the ultimate ends and you swarm your opponent. More then a kill that's a gang bang
I've read your posts and while it is a fact that it gives you quite a few buffs and heals, it does not make you unkillable, that is a fact. Many of us here prove that every day by being able to kill people that use restro ults.
As far as killing people that use it I have no problem bursting them while they use it, but if I were to have a problem with it then I would learn to used timed burst and adapt not gang bang lol.
If you are not willing to adapt your build or gameplay then nerfing the restro ult isn't going to help you at all. I have to make changes to my builds every patch whether it be skills, gear, or even strategy so don't take it personal instead try to figure out where the problem is, adapt and overcome.
If you're a lower dps build then turtle up while they use it and use that time to get your buffs and debuffs up. When the ult comes down apply your dots, cc them, then burst them.
If you still can't burst them then it could be your gear, cp allocation, race, skills, etc that all contribute to your damage.
It could also be that you are fighting good players in which case I recomend watching the fight over on video if your platform supports that. I do that every once in awhile and I can usually see where i went wrong and missed a combat que or wasted stamina and the enemy took advantage of that and cc'd me one last time xD
I won't spend time to say how things are, again. It's overperforming. Becouse the heals. Becouse the protection. Becouse it can be spammed. And becouse if you are 3 people with it you will have a 30+- seconds major protection.
If you say the contrary...well i can only think that you run it
As I've said before I don't run it and I don't even have the skill unlocked to be able to use it because I don't run restro on my magic build. I've given you plenty of counters to try to help you with it so I guess I'll just leave it at that.
Stop giving your unvaluable opinion about a skill you have experienced only in half then. Run it, for some time, then come back
Unvaluable, lol! You said the problem was that people are unkillable that use the restro ult and since I have no problem killing them and do it daily I offered my advice based on actual experience to prove it's not an op ability and they are in fact killable!
For whatever reason you believe you should never have to adapt and if something kills you or is unkillable (to you only) then it must be nerfed. Thats not how it works.
I'm starting to understand why people just respond with the rude comments like L2P or git gud, because it's just not worth the time trying to type things out to help people that don't want to help themselves.
Nuff said, I have unkillable restro ult users to kill xD
As i said before, you experienced it in half. "Of CoUrSe you CaN KiLl Som0nE wItH rEstO UlTi". Thanks sherlock. Didn't know that. Go ahead. Kill someone while he is USING it. With a group. Wait. Do a 4v4 with 4 with resto ulties and 4 without, even better
I am talking about the ultimate being overperforming. And needs a balance. IF you think it's not. Probably you have no high perceptionEdited by Skander on August 4, 2017 10:58PMI meme, but my memes are so truthful they hurt
-Elder Nightblades Online
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SydneyGrey✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Why would you nerf that when EVERYONE with a resto staff can use it, no matter what class they play, or what alliance. You'd just be nerfing it across the board for everybody for no reason, which wouldn't affect PvP at all, but would ruin it for PvEers doing group dungeons.2 -
Sanctum74✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Instead of asking for a nerf for something that clearly nobody else is having an issue with. Why don't you instead learn from your bad pvp encounters and work on changes to your gear, skills, strategy, etc.
Every build has strengths and weakness's and you can't expect to win every encounter. Even the best pvp players die.
I've never come across someone using a restro ult every 10 seconds and even if I did I would time my burst accordingly to counter it. It sounds like the problem is your burst combo and/or damage output not the restro ult.
It could be your gear, cp allocation, skills/morphs, lack of a cc, etc. Once you figure that out, you won't even notice the restro ult anymore.
You are not a pvp veteran, aren't you?
This discussion proves that, even if you THINK you are, its only in your own mind.
Trolls belong to caves, or bridges.Instead of asking for a nerf for something that clearly nobody else is having an issue with. Why don't you instead learn from your bad pvp encounters and work on changes to your gear, skills, strategy, etc.
Every build has strengths and weakness's and you can't expect to win every encounter. Even the best pvp players die.
I've never come across someone using a restro ult every 10 seconds and even if I did I would time my burst accordingly to counter it. It sounds like the problem is your burst combo and/or damage output not the restro ult.
It could be your gear, cp allocation, skills/morphs, lack of a cc, etc. Once you figure that out, you won't even notice the restro ult anymore.
You are not a pvp veteran, aren't you?
Yes I am, which is why I gave you a very detailed explanation instead of just saying this needs a nerf and saying absolutely nothing to back it up with facts. The only think you've said is YOU can't kill a person using it so it should be nerfed.
Again re-read my previous post, work on your build, and the restro ult will not be a problem. I don't use it and I am able to kill people every day who do use it with no problem at all.
I made 3 page of facts. I won't repeat myself. You are welcome to read.
Probably you are missing the point. Probably your "killing" is when the ultimate ends and you swarm your opponent. More then a kill that's a gang bang
I've read your posts and while it is a fact that it gives you quite a few buffs and heals, it does not make you unkillable, that is a fact. Many of us here prove that every day by being able to kill people that use restro ults.
As far as killing people that use it I have no problem bursting them while they use it, but if I were to have a problem with it then I would learn to used timed burst and adapt not gang bang lol.
If you are not willing to adapt your build or gameplay then nerfing the restro ult isn't going to help you at all. I have to make changes to my builds every patch whether it be skills, gear, or even strategy so don't take it personal instead try to figure out where the problem is, adapt and overcome.
If you're a lower dps build then turtle up while they use it and use that time to get your buffs and debuffs up. When the ult comes down apply your dots, cc them, then burst them.
If you still can't burst them then it could be your gear, cp allocation, race, skills, etc that all contribute to your damage.
It could also be that you are fighting good players in which case I recomend watching the fight over on video if your platform supports that. I do that every once in awhile and I can usually see where i went wrong and missed a combat que or wasted stamina and the enemy took advantage of that and cc'd me one last time xD
I won't spend time to say how things are, again. It's overperforming. Becouse the heals. Becouse the protection. Becouse it can be spammed. And becouse if you are 3 people with it you will have a 30+- seconds major protection.
If you say the contrary...well i can only think that you run it
As I've said before I don't run it and I don't even have the skill unlocked to be able to use it because I don't run restro on my magic build. I've given you plenty of counters to try to help you with it so I guess I'll just leave it at that.
Stop giving your unvaluable opinion about a skill you have experienced only in half then. Run it, for some time, then come back
Unvaluable, lol! You said the problem was that people are unkillable that use the restro ult and since I have no problem killing them and do it daily I offered my advice based on actual experience to prove it's not an op ability and they are in fact killable!
For whatever reason you believe you should never have to adapt and if something kills you or is unkillable (to you only) then it must be nerfed. Thats not how it works.
I'm starting to understand why people just respond with the rude comments like L2P or git gud, because it's just not worth the time trying to type things out to help people that don't want to help themselves.
Nuff said, I have unkillable restro ult users to kill xD
As i said before, you experienced it in half. "Of CoUrSe you CaN KiLl Som0nE wItH rEstO UlTi". Thanks sherlock. Didn't know that. Go ahead. Kill someone while he is USING it. With a group. Wait. Do a 4v4 with 4 with resto ulties and 4 without, even better
I am talking about the ultimate being overperforming. And needs a balance. IF you think it's not. Probably you have no high perception
If you are going to start a post in a public forum about a perceived problem then you should expect people are going to try to help you with that problem or at least expect you to have some sort of proof or facts to back up your claim and/or offer solutions.
5 pages of saying it's over performing, needs a nerf, and you cant kill someone with major protection is just not true and doesn't help your case. I don't need high perception to see that.
If you want zos to consider changing it then you need a valid argument based on facts why it's over performing and be willing to offer solutions like cooldown, increase cost, lower heal, minor protection, etc.
According to the pts patch notes it doesn't look like it's getting changed any time soon so for the time being I would learn to adapt like everyone else already has. Maybe the other guy that agrees with you in this post can help you with your build since I'm just a scrub troll.
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Skander✭✭✭✭✭
✭SydneyGrey wrote: »Why would you nerf that when EVERYONE with a resto staff can use it, no matter what class they play, or what alliance. You'd just be nerfing it across the board for everybody for no reason, which wouldn't affect PvP at all, but would ruin it for PvEers doing group dungeons.
Everyone can use a car to get to work. Somebody uses the bus tho. BECOUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO CHANGE THEIR BUILD FOR SOMETHING BROKENInstead of asking for a nerf for something that clearly nobody else is having an issue with. Why don't you instead learn from your bad pvp encounters and work on changes to your gear, skills, strategy, etc.
Every build has strengths and weakness's and you can't expect to win every encounter. Even the best pvp players die.
I've never come across someone using a restro ult every 10 seconds and even if I did I would time my burst accordingly to counter it. It sounds like the problem is your burst combo and/or damage output not the restro ult.
It could be your gear, cp allocation, skills/morphs, lack of a cc, etc. Once you figure that out, you won't even notice the restro ult anymore.
You are not a pvp veteran, aren't you?
This discussion proves that, even if you THINK you are, its only in your own mind.
Trolls belong to caves, or bridges.Instead of asking for a nerf for something that clearly nobody else is having an issue with. Why don't you instead learn from your bad pvp encounters and work on changes to your gear, skills, strategy, etc.
Every build has strengths and weakness's and you can't expect to win every encounter. Even the best pvp players die.
I've never come across someone using a restro ult every 10 seconds and even if I did I would time my burst accordingly to counter it. It sounds like the problem is your burst combo and/or damage output not the restro ult.
It could be your gear, cp allocation, skills/morphs, lack of a cc, etc. Once you figure that out, you won't even notice the restro ult anymore.
You are not a pvp veteran, aren't you?
Yes I am, which is why I gave you a very detailed explanation instead of just saying this needs a nerf and saying absolutely nothing to back it up with facts. The only think you've said is YOU can't kill a person using it so it should be nerfed.
Again re-read my previous post, work on your build, and the restro ult will not be a problem. I don't use it and I am able to kill people every day who do use it with no problem at all.
I made 3 page of facts. I won't repeat myself. You are welcome to read.
Probably you are missing the point. Probably your "killing" is when the ultimate ends and you swarm your opponent. More then a kill that's a gang bang
I've read your posts and while it is a fact that it gives you quite a few buffs and heals, it does not make you unkillable, that is a fact. Many of us here prove that every day by being able to kill people that use restro ults.
As far as killing people that use it I have no problem bursting them while they use it, but if I were to have a problem with it then I would learn to used timed burst and adapt not gang bang lol.
If you are not willing to adapt your build or gameplay then nerfing the restro ult isn't going to help you at all. I have to make changes to my builds every patch whether it be skills, gear, or even strategy so don't take it personal instead try to figure out where the problem is, adapt and overcome.
If you're a lower dps build then turtle up while they use it and use that time to get your buffs and debuffs up. When the ult comes down apply your dots, cc them, then burst them.
If you still can't burst them then it could be your gear, cp allocation, race, skills, etc that all contribute to your damage.
It could also be that you are fighting good players in which case I recomend watching the fight over on video if your platform supports that. I do that every once in awhile and I can usually see where i went wrong and missed a combat que or wasted stamina and the enemy took advantage of that and cc'd me one last time xD
I won't spend time to say how things are, again. It's overperforming. Becouse the heals. Becouse the protection. Becouse it can be spammed. And becouse if you are 3 people with it you will have a 30+- seconds major protection.
If you say the contrary...well i can only think that you run it
As I've said before I don't run it and I don't even have the skill unlocked to be able to use it because I don't run restro on my magic build. I've given you plenty of counters to try to help you with it so I guess I'll just leave it at that.
Stop giving your unvaluable opinion about a skill you have experienced only in half then. Run it, for some time, then come back
Unvaluable, lol! You said the problem was that people are unkillable that use the restro ult and since I have no problem killing them and do it daily I offered my advice based on actual experience to prove it's not an op ability and they are in fact killable!
For whatever reason you believe you should never have to adapt and if something kills you or is unkillable (to you only) then it must be nerfed. Thats not how it works.
I'm starting to understand why people just respond with the rude comments like L2P or git gud, because it's just not worth the time trying to type things out to help people that don't want to help themselves.
Nuff said, I have unkillable restro ult users to kill xD
As i said before, you experienced it in half. "Of CoUrSe you CaN KiLl Som0nE wItH rEstO UlTi". Thanks sherlock. Didn't know that. Go ahead. Kill someone while he is USING it. With a group. Wait. Do a 4v4 with 4 with resto ulties and 4 without, even better
I am talking about the ultimate being overperforming. And needs a balance. IF you think it's not. Probably you have no high perception
If you are going to start a post in a public forum about a perceived problem then you should expect people are going to try to help you with that problem or at least expect you to have some sort of proof or facts to back up your claim and/or offer solutions.
5 pages of saying it's over performing, needs a nerf, and you cant kill someone with major protection is just not true and doesn't help your case. I don't need high perception to see that.
If you want zos to consider changing it then you need a valid argument based on facts why it's over performing and be willing to offer solutions like cooldown, increase cost, lower heal, minor protection, etc.
According to the pts patch notes it doesn't look like it's getting changed any time soon so for the time being I would learn to adapt like everyone else already has. Maybe the other guy that agrees with you in this post can help you with your build since I'm just a scrub troll.
The argument is:
-Cost too little
-Heals too much for its cost
-Gives you too many major buffs for its cost
-Can be used by everyone in a group, thus can be used repitetly
-The group or the person becomes immoltal for 10 seconds.
That is broken. Bro-ken.
DEFENDING this ultimate is the last sign of dementia, nothing more, nothing less.I meme, but my memes are so truthful they hurt
-Elder Nightblades Online
Want competitive pvp while being outnumbered? Tough luck, the devs clearly said you have to die in those situations0 -
EdTerra✭✭✭agree.
When I see a shieldstacker sorc using it, I just give up, I know I will die, because I don't have the burst to down him while he can destroy me in a second with the 15% crit damage increase bonus, it's just a god mod
but in other way, I find it pretty strong but not OP[EU] AD - Erdril v16 N(oo)B | AR40
[NA] EP - Erdril NB
Still a solo player in this zergfest
Youtube : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXPJv3O6DC5ZYECfF3-rQ-Q0 -
Sanctum74✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭SydneyGrey wrote: »Why would you nerf that when EVERYONE with a resto staff can use it, no matter what class they play, or what alliance. You'd just be nerfing it across the board for everybody for no reason, which wouldn't affect PvP at all, but would ruin it for PvEers doing group dungeons.
Everyone can use a car to get to work. Somebody uses the bus tho. BECOUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO CHANGE THEIR BUILD FOR SOMETHING BROKENInstead of asking for a nerf for something that clearly nobody else is having an issue with. Why don't you instead learn from your bad pvp encounters and work on changes to your gear, skills, strategy, etc.
Every build has strengths and weakness's and you can't expect to win every encounter. Even the best pvp players die.
I've never come across someone using a restro ult every 10 seconds and even if I did I would time my burst accordingly to counter it. It sounds like the problem is your burst combo and/or damage output not the restro ult.
It could be your gear, cp allocation, skills/morphs, lack of a cc, etc. Once you figure that out, you won't even notice the restro ult anymore.
You are not a pvp veteran, aren't you?
This discussion proves that, even if you THINK you are, its only in your own mind.
Trolls belong to caves, or bridges.Instead of asking for a nerf for something that clearly nobody else is having an issue with. Why don't you instead learn from your bad pvp encounters and work on changes to your gear, skills, strategy, etc.
Every build has strengths and weakness's and you can't expect to win every encounter. Even the best pvp players die.
I've never come across someone using a restro ult every 10 seconds and even if I did I would time my burst accordingly to counter it. It sounds like the problem is your burst combo and/or damage output not the restro ult.
It could be your gear, cp allocation, skills/morphs, lack of a cc, etc. Once you figure that out, you won't even notice the restro ult anymore.
You are not a pvp veteran, aren't you?
Yes I am, which is why I gave you a very detailed explanation instead of just saying this needs a nerf and saying absolutely nothing to back it up with facts. The only think you've said is YOU can't kill a person using it so it should be nerfed.
Again re-read my previous post, work on your build, and the restro ult will not be a problem. I don't use it and I am able to kill people every day who do use it with no problem at all.
I made 3 page of facts. I won't repeat myself. You are welcome to read.
Probably you are missing the point. Probably your "killing" is when the ultimate ends and you swarm your opponent. More then a kill that's a gang bang
I've read your posts and while it is a fact that it gives you quite a few buffs and heals, it does not make you unkillable, that is a fact. Many of us here prove that every day by being able to kill people that use restro ults.
As far as killing people that use it I have no problem bursting them while they use it, but if I were to have a problem with it then I would learn to used timed burst and adapt not gang bang lol.
If you are not willing to adapt your build or gameplay then nerfing the restro ult isn't going to help you at all. I have to make changes to my builds every patch whether it be skills, gear, or even strategy so don't take it personal instead try to figure out where the problem is, adapt and overcome.
If you're a lower dps build then turtle up while they use it and use that time to get your buffs and debuffs up. When the ult comes down apply your dots, cc them, then burst them.
If you still can't burst them then it could be your gear, cp allocation, race, skills, etc that all contribute to your damage.
It could also be that you are fighting good players in which case I recomend watching the fight over on video if your platform supports that. I do that every once in awhile and I can usually see where i went wrong and missed a combat que or wasted stamina and the enemy took advantage of that and cc'd me one last time xD
I won't spend time to say how things are, again. It's overperforming. Becouse the heals. Becouse the protection. Becouse it can be spammed. And becouse if you are 3 people with it you will have a 30+- seconds major protection.
If you say the contrary...well i can only think that you run it
As I've said before I don't run it and I don't even have the skill unlocked to be able to use it because I don't run restro on my magic build. I've given you plenty of counters to try to help you with it so I guess I'll just leave it at that.
Stop giving your unvaluable opinion about a skill you have experienced only in half then. Run it, for some time, then come back
Unvaluable, lol! You said the problem was that people are unkillable that use the restro ult and since I have no problem killing them and do it daily I offered my advice based on actual experience to prove it's not an op ability and they are in fact killable!
For whatever reason you believe you should never have to adapt and if something kills you or is unkillable (to you only) then it must be nerfed. Thats not how it works.
I'm starting to understand why people just respond with the rude comments like L2P or git gud, because it's just not worth the time trying to type things out to help people that don't want to help themselves.
Nuff said, I have unkillable restro ult users to kill xD
As i said before, you experienced it in half. "Of CoUrSe you CaN KiLl Som0nE wItH rEstO UlTi". Thanks sherlock. Didn't know that. Go ahead. Kill someone while he is USING it. With a group. Wait. Do a 4v4 with 4 with resto ulties and 4 without, even better
I am talking about the ultimate being overperforming. And needs a balance. IF you think it's not. Probably you have no high perception
If you are going to start a post in a public forum about a perceived problem then you should expect people are going to try to help you with that problem or at least expect you to have some sort of proof or facts to back up your claim and/or offer solutions.
5 pages of saying it's over performing, needs a nerf, and you cant kill someone with major protection is just not true and doesn't help your case. I don't need high perception to see that.
If you want zos to consider changing it then you need a valid argument based on facts why it's over performing and be willing to offer solutions like cooldown, increase cost, lower heal, minor protection, etc.
According to the pts patch notes it doesn't look like it's getting changed any time soon so for the time being I would learn to adapt like everyone else already has. Maybe the other guy that agrees with you in this post can help you with your build since I'm just a scrub troll.
The argument is:
-Cost too little
-Heals too much for its cost
-Gives you too many major buffs for its cost
-Can be used by everyone in a group, thus can be used repitetly
-The group or the person becomes immoltal for 10 seconds.
That is broken. Bro-ken.
DEFENDING this ultimate is the last sign of dementia, nothing more, nothing less.
Insulting people doesn't help your case at all, but at least you added something to the conversation this time.
As far as cost, heals, and buffs goes it does offer quite a few benefits for the low cost. That I can agree with and maybe increasing the cost would help prevent people from spamming it. If the heals were to get reduced then the cost should stay low.
Being used repetitively by a group can be done with any ult making it over powered so to single out one ult because of a group working together is wrong. Best way to counter groups is with other groups not nerfing ults.
The part about the person being immortal for 10 seconds is just wrong. People can be easily killed while using this ability without needing a group.
I think adding a cooldown for all ults would be a good solution. Ultimates should offer great benefits, but they should not be able to be spammed. Last night I was able to do back to back destro ults and was able to take out 2 groups of players in less than 20 seconds. It was fun to take out 25+ ep and dc, but there should be a cooldown to prevent that from happening. Even a 30-60 second cooldown would help prevent spamming and make ults more balanced.2 -
Skander✭✭✭✭✭
✭SydneyGrey wrote: »Why would you nerf that when EVERYONE with a resto staff can use it, no matter what class they play, or what alliance. You'd just be nerfing it across the board for everybody for no reason, which wouldn't affect PvP at all, but would ruin it for PvEers doing group dungeons.
Everyone can use a car to get to work. Somebody uses the bus tho. BECOUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO CHANGE THEIR BUILD FOR SOMETHING BROKENInstead of asking for a nerf for something that clearly nobody else is having an issue with. Why don't you instead learn from your bad pvp encounters and work on changes to your gear, skills, strategy, etc.
Every build has strengths and weakness's and you can't expect to win every encounter. Even the best pvp players die.
I've never come across someone using a restro ult every 10 seconds and even if I did I would time my burst accordingly to counter it. It sounds like the problem is your burst combo and/or damage output not the restro ult.
It could be your gear, cp allocation, skills/morphs, lack of a cc, etc. Once you figure that out, you won't even notice the restro ult anymore.
You are not a pvp veteran, aren't you?
This discussion proves that, even if you THINK you are, its only in your own mind.
Trolls belong to caves, or bridges.Instead of asking for a nerf for something that clearly nobody else is having an issue with. Why don't you instead learn from your bad pvp encounters and work on changes to your gear, skills, strategy, etc.
Every build has strengths and weakness's and you can't expect to win every encounter. Even the best pvp players die.
I've never come across someone using a restro ult every 10 seconds and even if I did I would time my burst accordingly to counter it. It sounds like the problem is your burst combo and/or damage output not the restro ult.
It could be your gear, cp allocation, skills/morphs, lack of a cc, etc. Once you figure that out, you won't even notice the restro ult anymore.
You are not a pvp veteran, aren't you?
Yes I am, which is why I gave you a very detailed explanation instead of just saying this needs a nerf and saying absolutely nothing to back it up with facts. The only think you've said is YOU can't kill a person using it so it should be nerfed.
Again re-read my previous post, work on your build, and the restro ult will not be a problem. I don't use it and I am able to kill people every day who do use it with no problem at all.
I made 3 page of facts. I won't repeat myself. You are welcome to read.
Probably you are missing the point. Probably your "killing" is when the ultimate ends and you swarm your opponent. More then a kill that's a gang bang
I've read your posts and while it is a fact that it gives you quite a few buffs and heals, it does not make you unkillable, that is a fact. Many of us here prove that every day by being able to kill people that use restro ults.
As far as killing people that use it I have no problem bursting them while they use it, but if I were to have a problem with it then I would learn to used timed burst and adapt not gang bang lol.
If you are not willing to adapt your build or gameplay then nerfing the restro ult isn't going to help you at all. I have to make changes to my builds every patch whether it be skills, gear, or even strategy so don't take it personal instead try to figure out where the problem is, adapt and overcome.
If you're a lower dps build then turtle up while they use it and use that time to get your buffs and debuffs up. When the ult comes down apply your dots, cc them, then burst them.
If you still can't burst them then it could be your gear, cp allocation, race, skills, etc that all contribute to your damage.
It could also be that you are fighting good players in which case I recomend watching the fight over on video if your platform supports that. I do that every once in awhile and I can usually see where i went wrong and missed a combat que or wasted stamina and the enemy took advantage of that and cc'd me one last time xD
I won't spend time to say how things are, again. It's overperforming. Becouse the heals. Becouse the protection. Becouse it can be spammed. And becouse if you are 3 people with it you will have a 30+- seconds major protection.
If you say the contrary...well i can only think that you run it
As I've said before I don't run it and I don't even have the skill unlocked to be able to use it because I don't run restro on my magic build. I've given you plenty of counters to try to help you with it so I guess I'll just leave it at that.
Stop giving your unvaluable opinion about a skill you have experienced only in half then. Run it, for some time, then come back
Unvaluable, lol! You said the problem was that people are unkillable that use the restro ult and since I have no problem killing them and do it daily I offered my advice based on actual experience to prove it's not an op ability and they are in fact killable!
For whatever reason you believe you should never have to adapt and if something kills you or is unkillable (to you only) then it must be nerfed. Thats not how it works.
I'm starting to understand why people just respond with the rude comments like L2P or git gud, because it's just not worth the time trying to type things out to help people that don't want to help themselves.
Nuff said, I have unkillable restro ult users to kill xD
As i said before, you experienced it in half. "Of CoUrSe you CaN KiLl Som0nE wItH rEstO UlTi". Thanks sherlock. Didn't know that. Go ahead. Kill someone while he is USING it. With a group. Wait. Do a 4v4 with 4 with resto ulties and 4 without, even better
I am talking about the ultimate being overperforming. And needs a balance. IF you think it's not. Probably you have no high perception
If you are going to start a post in a public forum about a perceived problem then you should expect people are going to try to help you with that problem or at least expect you to have some sort of proof or facts to back up your claim and/or offer solutions.
5 pages of saying it's over performing, needs a nerf, and you cant kill someone with major protection is just not true and doesn't help your case. I don't need high perception to see that.
If you want zos to consider changing it then you need a valid argument based on facts why it's over performing and be willing to offer solutions like cooldown, increase cost, lower heal, minor protection, etc.
According to the pts patch notes it doesn't look like it's getting changed any time soon so for the time being I would learn to adapt like everyone else already has. Maybe the other guy that agrees with you in this post can help you with your build since I'm just a scrub troll.
The argument is:
-Cost too little
-Heals too much for its cost
-Gives you too many major buffs for its cost
-Can be used by everyone in a group, thus can be used repitetly
-The group or the person becomes immoltal for 10 seconds.
That is broken. Bro-ken.
DEFENDING this ultimate is the last sign of dementia, nothing more, nothing less.
Insulting people doesn't help your case at all, but at least you added something to the conversation this time.
As far as cost, heals, and buffs goes it does offer quite a few benefits for the low cost. That I can agree with and maybe increasing the cost would help prevent people from spamming it. If the heals were to get reduced then the cost should stay low.
Being used repetitively by a group can be done with any ult making it over powered so to single out one ult because of a group working together is wrong. Best way to counter groups is with other groups not nerfing ults.
The part about the person being immortal for 10 seconds is just wrong. People can be easily killed while using this ability without needing a group.
I think adding a cooldown for all ults would be a good solution. Ultimates should offer great benefits, but they should not be able to be spammed. Last night I was able to do back to back destro ults and was able to take out 2 groups of players in less than 20 seconds. It was fun to take out 25+ ep and dc, but there should be a cooldown to prevent that from happening. Even a 30-60 second cooldown would help prevent spamming and make ults more balanced.
Since you are speaking to add a cooldown I guess you don't know what you are talking about. Ultimates have a cost, that's their cooldown.
And destro: they nerfed itI meme, but my memes are so truthful they hurt
-Elder Nightblades Online
Want competitive pvp while being outnumbered? Tough luck, the devs clearly said you have to die in those situations0 -
Sanctum74✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭SydneyGrey wrote: »Why would you nerf that when EVERYONE with a resto staff can use it, no matter what class they play, or what alliance. You'd just be nerfing it across the board for everybody for no reason, which wouldn't affect PvP at all, but would ruin it for PvEers doing group dungeons.
Everyone can use a car to get to work. Somebody uses the bus tho. BECOUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO CHANGE THEIR BUILD FOR SOMETHING BROKENInstead of asking for a nerf for something that clearly nobody else is having an issue with. Why don't you instead learn from your bad pvp encounters and work on changes to your gear, skills, strategy, etc.
Every build has strengths and weakness's and you can't expect to win every encounter. Even the best pvp players die.
I've never come across someone using a restro ult every 10 seconds and even if I did I would time my burst accordingly to counter it. It sounds like the problem is your burst combo and/or damage output not the restro ult.
It could be your gear, cp allocation, skills/morphs, lack of a cc, etc. Once you figure that out, you won't even notice the restro ult anymore.
You are not a pvp veteran, aren't you?
This discussion proves that, even if you THINK you are, its only in your own mind.
Trolls belong to caves, or bridges.Instead of asking for a nerf for something that clearly nobody else is having an issue with. Why don't you instead learn from your bad pvp encounters and work on changes to your gear, skills, strategy, etc.
Every build has strengths and weakness's and you can't expect to win every encounter. Even the best pvp players die.
I've never come across someone using a restro ult every 10 seconds and even if I did I would time my burst accordingly to counter it. It sounds like the problem is your burst combo and/or damage output not the restro ult.
It could be your gear, cp allocation, skills/morphs, lack of a cc, etc. Once you figure that out, you won't even notice the restro ult anymore.
You are not a pvp veteran, aren't you?
Yes I am, which is why I gave you a very detailed explanation instead of just saying this needs a nerf and saying absolutely nothing to back it up with facts. The only think you've said is YOU can't kill a person using it so it should be nerfed.
Again re-read my previous post, work on your build, and the restro ult will not be a problem. I don't use it and I am able to kill people every day who do use it with no problem at all.
I made 3 page of facts. I won't repeat myself. You are welcome to read.
Probably you are missing the point. Probably your "killing" is when the ultimate ends and you swarm your opponent. More then a kill that's a gang bang
I've read your posts and while it is a fact that it gives you quite a few buffs and heals, it does not make you unkillable, that is a fact. Many of us here prove that every day by being able to kill people that use restro ults.
As far as killing people that use it I have no problem bursting them while they use it, but if I were to have a problem with it then I would learn to used timed burst and adapt not gang bang lol.
If you are not willing to adapt your build or gameplay then nerfing the restro ult isn't going to help you at all. I have to make changes to my builds every patch whether it be skills, gear, or even strategy so don't take it personal instead try to figure out where the problem is, adapt and overcome.
If you're a lower dps build then turtle up while they use it and use that time to get your buffs and debuffs up. When the ult comes down apply your dots, cc them, then burst them.
If you still can't burst them then it could be your gear, cp allocation, race, skills, etc that all contribute to your damage.
It could also be that you are fighting good players in which case I recomend watching the fight over on video if your platform supports that. I do that every once in awhile and I can usually see where i went wrong and missed a combat que or wasted stamina and the enemy took advantage of that and cc'd me one last time xD
I won't spend time to say how things are, again. It's overperforming. Becouse the heals. Becouse the protection. Becouse it can be spammed. And becouse if you are 3 people with it you will have a 30+- seconds major protection.
If you say the contrary...well i can only think that you run it
As I've said before I don't run it and I don't even have the skill unlocked to be able to use it because I don't run restro on my magic build. I've given you plenty of counters to try to help you with it so I guess I'll just leave it at that.
Stop giving your unvaluable opinion about a skill you have experienced only in half then. Run it, for some time, then come back
Unvaluable, lol! You said the problem was that people are unkillable that use the restro ult and since I have no problem killing them and do it daily I offered my advice based on actual experience to prove it's not an op ability and they are in fact killable!
For whatever reason you believe you should never have to adapt and if something kills you or is unkillable (to you only) then it must be nerfed. Thats not how it works.
I'm starting to understand why people just respond with the rude comments like L2P or git gud, because it's just not worth the time trying to type things out to help people that don't want to help themselves.
Nuff said, I have unkillable restro ult users to kill xD
As i said before, you experienced it in half. "Of CoUrSe you CaN KiLl Som0nE wItH rEstO UlTi". Thanks sherlock. Didn't know that. Go ahead. Kill someone while he is USING it. With a group. Wait. Do a 4v4 with 4 with resto ulties and 4 without, even better
I am talking about the ultimate being overperforming. And needs a balance. IF you think it's not. Probably you have no high perception
If you are going to start a post in a public forum about a perceived problem then you should expect people are going to try to help you with that problem or at least expect you to have some sort of proof or facts to back up your claim and/or offer solutions.
5 pages of saying it's over performing, needs a nerf, and you cant kill someone with major protection is just not true and doesn't help your case. I don't need high perception to see that.
If you want zos to consider changing it then you need a valid argument based on facts why it's over performing and be willing to offer solutions like cooldown, increase cost, lower heal, minor protection, etc.
According to the pts patch notes it doesn't look like it's getting changed any time soon so for the time being I would learn to adapt like everyone else already has. Maybe the other guy that agrees with you in this post can help you with your build since I'm just a scrub troll.
The argument is:
-Cost too little
-Heals too much for its cost
-Gives you too many major buffs for its cost
-Can be used by everyone in a group, thus can be used repitetly
-The group or the person becomes immoltal for 10 seconds.
That is broken. Bro-ken.
DEFENDING this ultimate is the last sign of dementia, nothing more, nothing less.
Insulting people doesn't help your case at all, but at least you added something to the conversation this time.
As far as cost, heals, and buffs goes it does offer quite a few benefits for the low cost. That I can agree with and maybe increasing the cost would help prevent people from spamming it. If the heals were to get reduced then the cost should stay low.
Being used repetitively by a group can be done with any ult making it over powered so to single out one ult because of a group working together is wrong. Best way to counter groups is with other groups not nerfing ults.
The part about the person being immortal for 10 seconds is just wrong. People can be easily killed while using this ability without needing a group.
I think adding a cooldown for all ults would be a good solution. Ultimates should offer great benefits, but they should not be able to be spammed. Last night I was able to do back to back destro ults and was able to take out 2 groups of players in less than 20 seconds. It was fun to take out 25+ ep and dc, but there should be a cooldown to prevent that from happening. Even a 30-60 second cooldown would help prevent spamming and make ults more balanced.
Since you are speaking to add a cooldown I guess you don't know what you are talking about. Ultimates have a cost, that's their cooldown.
And destro: they nerfed it
Back to the insults again lol. Obviously having an intelligent conversation is not an option. Good luck with your nerf restro crusade.
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Skander✭✭✭✭✭
✭SydneyGrey wrote: »Why would you nerf that when EVERYONE with a resto staff can use it, no matter what class they play, or what alliance. You'd just be nerfing it across the board for everybody for no reason, which wouldn't affect PvP at all, but would ruin it for PvEers doing group dungeons.
Everyone can use a car to get to work. Somebody uses the bus tho. BECOUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO CHANGE THEIR BUILD FOR SOMETHING BROKENInstead of asking for a nerf for something that clearly nobody else is having an issue with. Why don't you instead learn from your bad pvp encounters and work on changes to your gear, skills, strategy, etc.
Every build has strengths and weakness's and you can't expect to win every encounter. Even the best pvp players die.
I've never come across someone using a restro ult every 10 seconds and even if I did I would time my burst accordingly to counter it. It sounds like the problem is your burst combo and/or damage output not the restro ult.
It could be your gear, cp allocation, skills/morphs, lack of a cc, etc. Once you figure that out, you won't even notice the restro ult anymore.
You are not a pvp veteran, aren't you?
This discussion proves that, even if you THINK you are, its only in your own mind.
Trolls belong to caves, or bridges.Instead of asking for a nerf for something that clearly nobody else is having an issue with. Why don't you instead learn from your bad pvp encounters and work on changes to your gear, skills, strategy, etc.
Every build has strengths and weakness's and you can't expect to win every encounter. Even the best pvp players die.
I've never come across someone using a restro ult every 10 seconds and even if I did I would time my burst accordingly to counter it. It sounds like the problem is your burst combo and/or damage output not the restro ult.
It could be your gear, cp allocation, skills/morphs, lack of a cc, etc. Once you figure that out, you won't even notice the restro ult anymore.
You are not a pvp veteran, aren't you?
Yes I am, which is why I gave you a very detailed explanation instead of just saying this needs a nerf and saying absolutely nothing to back it up with facts. The only think you've said is YOU can't kill a person using it so it should be nerfed.
Again re-read my previous post, work on your build, and the restro ult will not be a problem. I don't use it and I am able to kill people every day who do use it with no problem at all.
I made 3 page of facts. I won't repeat myself. You are welcome to read.
Probably you are missing the point. Probably your "killing" is when the ultimate ends and you swarm your opponent. More then a kill that's a gang bang
I've read your posts and while it is a fact that it gives you quite a few buffs and heals, it does not make you unkillable, that is a fact. Many of us here prove that every day by being able to kill people that use restro ults.
As far as killing people that use it I have no problem bursting them while they use it, but if I were to have a problem with it then I would learn to used timed burst and adapt not gang bang lol.
If you are not willing to adapt your build or gameplay then nerfing the restro ult isn't going to help you at all. I have to make changes to my builds every patch whether it be skills, gear, or even strategy so don't take it personal instead try to figure out where the problem is, adapt and overcome.
If you're a lower dps build then turtle up while they use it and use that time to get your buffs and debuffs up. When the ult comes down apply your dots, cc them, then burst them.
If you still can't burst them then it could be your gear, cp allocation, race, skills, etc that all contribute to your damage.
It could also be that you are fighting good players in which case I recomend watching the fight over on video if your platform supports that. I do that every once in awhile and I can usually see where i went wrong and missed a combat que or wasted stamina and the enemy took advantage of that and cc'd me one last time xD
I won't spend time to say how things are, again. It's overperforming. Becouse the heals. Becouse the protection. Becouse it can be spammed. And becouse if you are 3 people with it you will have a 30+- seconds major protection.
If you say the contrary...well i can only think that you run it
As I've said before I don't run it and I don't even have the skill unlocked to be able to use it because I don't run restro on my magic build. I've given you plenty of counters to try to help you with it so I guess I'll just leave it at that.
Stop giving your unvaluable opinion about a skill you have experienced only in half then. Run it, for some time, then come back
Unvaluable, lol! You said the problem was that people are unkillable that use the restro ult and since I have no problem killing them and do it daily I offered my advice based on actual experience to prove it's not an op ability and they are in fact killable!
For whatever reason you believe you should never have to adapt and if something kills you or is unkillable (to you only) then it must be nerfed. Thats not how it works.
I'm starting to understand why people just respond with the rude comments like L2P or git gud, because it's just not worth the time trying to type things out to help people that don't want to help themselves.
Nuff said, I have unkillable restro ult users to kill xD
As i said before, you experienced it in half. "Of CoUrSe you CaN KiLl Som0nE wItH rEstO UlTi". Thanks sherlock. Didn't know that. Go ahead. Kill someone while he is USING it. With a group. Wait. Do a 4v4 with 4 with resto ulties and 4 without, even better
I am talking about the ultimate being overperforming. And needs a balance. IF you think it's not. Probably you have no high perception
If you are going to start a post in a public forum about a perceived problem then you should expect people are going to try to help you with that problem or at least expect you to have some sort of proof or facts to back up your claim and/or offer solutions.
5 pages of saying it's over performing, needs a nerf, and you cant kill someone with major protection is just not true and doesn't help your case. I don't need high perception to see that.
If you want zos to consider changing it then you need a valid argument based on facts why it's over performing and be willing to offer solutions like cooldown, increase cost, lower heal, minor protection, etc.
According to the pts patch notes it doesn't look like it's getting changed any time soon so for the time being I would learn to adapt like everyone else already has. Maybe the other guy that agrees with you in this post can help you with your build since I'm just a scrub troll.
The argument is:
-Cost too little
-Heals too much for its cost
-Gives you too many major buffs for its cost
-Can be used by everyone in a group, thus can be used repitetly
-The group or the person becomes immoltal for 10 seconds.
That is broken. Bro-ken.
DEFENDING this ultimate is the last sign of dementia, nothing more, nothing less.
Insulting people doesn't help your case at all, but at least you added something to the conversation this time.
As far as cost, heals, and buffs goes it does offer quite a few benefits for the low cost. That I can agree with and maybe increasing the cost would help prevent people from spamming it. If the heals were to get reduced then the cost should stay low.
Being used repetitively by a group can be done with any ult making it over powered so to single out one ult because of a group working together is wrong. Best way to counter groups is with other groups not nerfing ults.
The part about the person being immortal for 10 seconds is just wrong. People can be easily killed while using this ability without needing a group.
I think adding a cooldown for all ults would be a good solution. Ultimates should offer great benefits, but they should not be able to be spammed. Last night I was able to do back to back destro ults and was able to take out 2 groups of players in less than 20 seconds. It was fun to take out 25+ ep and dc, but there should be a cooldown to prevent that from happening. Even a 30-60 second cooldown would help prevent spamming and make ults more balanced.
Since you are speaking to add a cooldown I guess you don't know what you are talking about. Ultimates have a cost, that's their cooldown.
And destro: they nerfed it
Back to the insults again lol. Obviously having an intelligent conversation is not an option. Good luck with your nerf restro crusade.
If you think that I am insulting you, you probably have never been insulted before. Which I don't know if it's sad or tiltingI meme, but my memes are so truthful they hurt
-Elder Nightblades Online
Want competitive pvp while being outnumbered? Tough luck, the devs clearly said you have to die in those situations0 -
exeeter702✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭SydneyGrey wrote: »Why would you nerf that when EVERYONE with a resto staff can use it, no matter what class they play, or what alliance. You'd just be nerfing it across the board for everybody for no reason, which wouldn't affect PvP at all, but would ruin it for PvEers doing group dungeons.
Everyone can use a car to get to work. Somebody uses the bus tho. BECOUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO CHANGE THEIR BUILD FOR SOMETHING BROKENInstead of asking for a nerf for something that clearly nobody else is having an issue with. Why don't you instead learn from your bad pvp encounters and work on changes to your gear, skills, strategy, etc.
Every build has strengths and weakness's and you can't expect to win every encounter. Even the best pvp players die.
I've never come across someone using a restro ult every 10 seconds and even if I did I would time my burst accordingly to counter it. It sounds like the problem is your burst combo and/or damage output not the restro ult.
It could be your gear, cp allocation, skills/morphs, lack of a cc, etc. Once you figure that out, you won't even notice the restro ult anymore.
You are not a pvp veteran, aren't you?
This discussion proves that, even if you THINK you are, its only in your own mind.
Trolls belong to caves, or bridges.Instead of asking for a nerf for something that clearly nobody else is having an issue with. Why don't you instead learn from your bad pvp encounters and work on changes to your gear, skills, strategy, etc.
Every build has strengths and weakness's and you can't expect to win every encounter. Even the best pvp players die.
I've never come across someone using a restro ult every 10 seconds and even if I did I would time my burst accordingly to counter it. It sounds like the problem is your burst combo and/or damage output not the restro ult.
It could be your gear, cp allocation, skills/morphs, lack of a cc, etc. Once you figure that out, you won't even notice the restro ult anymore.
You are not a pvp veteran, aren't you?
Yes I am, which is why I gave you a very detailed explanation instead of just saying this needs a nerf and saying absolutely nothing to back it up with facts. The only think you've said is YOU can't kill a person using it so it should be nerfed.
Again re-read my previous post, work on your build, and the restro ult will not be a problem. I don't use it and I am able to kill people every day who do use it with no problem at all.
I made 3 page of facts. I won't repeat myself. You are welcome to read.
Probably you are missing the point. Probably your "killing" is when the ultimate ends and you swarm your opponent. More then a kill that's a gang bang
I've read your posts and while it is a fact that it gives you quite a few buffs and heals, it does not make you unkillable, that is a fact. Many of us here prove that every day by being able to kill people that use restro ults.
As far as killing people that use it I have no problem bursting them while they use it, but if I were to have a problem with it then I would learn to used timed burst and adapt not gang bang lol.
If you are not willing to adapt your build or gameplay then nerfing the restro ult isn't going to help you at all. I have to make changes to my builds every patch whether it be skills, gear, or even strategy so don't take it personal instead try to figure out where the problem is, adapt and overcome.
If you're a lower dps build then turtle up while they use it and use that time to get your buffs and debuffs up. When the ult comes down apply your dots, cc them, then burst them.
If you still can't burst them then it could be your gear, cp allocation, race, skills, etc that all contribute to your damage.
It could also be that you are fighting good players in which case I recomend watching the fight over on video if your platform supports that. I do that every once in awhile and I can usually see where i went wrong and missed a combat que or wasted stamina and the enemy took advantage of that and cc'd me one last time xD
I won't spend time to say how things are, again. It's overperforming. Becouse the heals. Becouse the protection. Becouse it can be spammed. And becouse if you are 3 people with it you will have a 30+- seconds major protection.
If you say the contrary...well i can only think that you run it
As I've said before I don't run it and I don't even have the skill unlocked to be able to use it because I don't run restro on my magic build. I've given you plenty of counters to try to help you with it so I guess I'll just leave it at that.
Stop giving your unvaluable opinion about a skill you have experienced only in half then. Run it, for some time, then come back
Unvaluable, lol! You said the problem was that people are unkillable that use the restro ult and since I have no problem killing them and do it daily I offered my advice based on actual experience to prove it's not an op ability and they are in fact killable!
For whatever reason you believe you should never have to adapt and if something kills you or is unkillable (to you only) then it must be nerfed. Thats not how it works.
I'm starting to understand why people just respond with the rude comments like L2P or git gud, because it's just not worth the time trying to type things out to help people that don't want to help themselves.
Nuff said, I have unkillable restro ult users to kill xD
As i said before, you experienced it in half. "Of CoUrSe you CaN KiLl Som0nE wItH rEstO UlTi". Thanks sherlock. Didn't know that. Go ahead. Kill someone while he is USING it. With a group. Wait. Do a 4v4 with 4 with resto ulties and 4 without, even better
I am talking about the ultimate being overperforming. And needs a balance. IF you think it's not. Probably you have no high perception
If you are going to start a post in a public forum about a perceived problem then you should expect people are going to try to help you with that problem or at least expect you to have some sort of proof or facts to back up your claim and/or offer solutions.
5 pages of saying it's over performing, needs a nerf, and you cant kill someone with major protection is just not true and doesn't help your case. I don't need high perception to see that.
If you want zos to consider changing it then you need a valid argument based on facts why it's over performing and be willing to offer solutions like cooldown, increase cost, lower heal, minor protection, etc.
According to the pts patch notes it doesn't look like it's getting changed any time soon so for the time being I would learn to adapt like everyone else already has. Maybe the other guy that agrees with you in this post can help you with your build since I'm just a scrub troll.
The argument is:
-Cost too little
-Heals too much for its cost
-Gives you too many major buffs for its cost
-Can be used by everyone in a group, thus can be used repitetly
-The group or the person becomes immoltal for 10 seconds.
That is broken. Bro-ken.
DEFENDING this ultimate is the last sign of dementia, nothing more, nothing less.
Insulting people doesn't help your case at all, but at least you added something to the conversation this time.
As far as cost, heals, and buffs goes it does offer quite a few benefits for the low cost. That I can agree with and maybe increasing the cost would help prevent people from spamming it. If the heals were to get reduced then the cost should stay low.
Being used repetitively by a group can be done with any ult making it over powered so to single out one ult because of a group working together is wrong. Best way to counter groups is with other groups not nerfing ults.
The part about the person being immortal for 10 seconds is just wrong. People can be easily killed while using this ability without needing a group.
I think adding a cooldown for all ults would be a good solution. Ultimates should offer great benefits, but they should not be able to be spammed. Last night I was able to do back to back destro ults and was able to take out 2 groups of players in less than 20 seconds. It was fun to take out 25+ ep and dc, but there should be a cooldown to prevent that from happening. Even a 30-60 second cooldown would help prevent spamming and make ults more balanced.
Since you are speaking to add a cooldown I guess you don't know what you are talking about. Ultimates have a cost, that's their cooldown.
And destro: they nerfed it
Back to the insults again lol. Obviously having an intelligent conversation is not an option. Good luck with your nerf restro crusade.
If you think that I am insulting you, you probably have never been insulted before. Which I don't know if it's sad or tilting
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Skander✭✭✭✭✭
✭exeeter702 wrote: »SydneyGrey wrote: »Why would you nerf that when EVERYONE with a resto staff can use it, no matter what class they play, or what alliance. You'd just be nerfing it across the board for everybody for no reason, which wouldn't affect PvP at all, but would ruin it for PvEers doing group dungeons.
Everyone can use a car to get to work. Somebody uses the bus tho. BECOUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO CHANGE THEIR BUILD FOR SOMETHING BROKENInstead of asking for a nerf for something that clearly nobody else is having an issue with. Why don't you instead learn from your bad pvp encounters and work on changes to your gear, skills, strategy, etc.
Every build has strengths and weakness's and you can't expect to win every encounter. Even the best pvp players die.
I've never come across someone using a restro ult every 10 seconds and even if I did I would time my burst accordingly to counter it. It sounds like the problem is your burst combo and/or damage output not the restro ult.
It could be your gear, cp allocation, skills/morphs, lack of a cc, etc. Once you figure that out, you won't even notice the restro ult anymore.
You are not a pvp veteran, aren't you?
This discussion proves that, even if you THINK you are, its only in your own mind.
Trolls belong to caves, or bridges.Instead of asking for a nerf for something that clearly nobody else is having an issue with. Why don't you instead learn from your bad pvp encounters and work on changes to your gear, skills, strategy, etc.
Every build has strengths and weakness's and you can't expect to win every encounter. Even the best pvp players die.
I've never come across someone using a restro ult every 10 seconds and even if I did I would time my burst accordingly to counter it. It sounds like the problem is your burst combo and/or damage output not the restro ult.
It could be your gear, cp allocation, skills/morphs, lack of a cc, etc. Once you figure that out, you won't even notice the restro ult anymore.
You are not a pvp veteran, aren't you?
Yes I am, which is why I gave you a very detailed explanation instead of just saying this needs a nerf and saying absolutely nothing to back it up with facts. The only think you've said is YOU can't kill a person using it so it should be nerfed.
Again re-read my previous post, work on your build, and the restro ult will not be a problem. I don't use it and I am able to kill people every day who do use it with no problem at all.
I made 3 page of facts. I won't repeat myself. You are welcome to read.
Probably you are missing the point. Probably your "killing" is when the ultimate ends and you swarm your opponent. More then a kill that's a gang bang
I've read your posts and while it is a fact that it gives you quite a few buffs and heals, it does not make you unkillable, that is a fact. Many of us here prove that every day by being able to kill people that use restro ults.
As far as killing people that use it I have no problem bursting them while they use it, but if I were to have a problem with it then I would learn to used timed burst and adapt not gang bang lol.
If you are not willing to adapt your build or gameplay then nerfing the restro ult isn't going to help you at all. I have to make changes to my builds every patch whether it be skills, gear, or even strategy so don't take it personal instead try to figure out where the problem is, adapt and overcome.
If you're a lower dps build then turtle up while they use it and use that time to get your buffs and debuffs up. When the ult comes down apply your dots, cc them, then burst them.
If you still can't burst them then it could be your gear, cp allocation, race, skills, etc that all contribute to your damage.
It could also be that you are fighting good players in which case I recomend watching the fight over on video if your platform supports that. I do that every once in awhile and I can usually see where i went wrong and missed a combat que or wasted stamina and the enemy took advantage of that and cc'd me one last time xD
I won't spend time to say how things are, again. It's overperforming. Becouse the heals. Becouse the protection. Becouse it can be spammed. And becouse if you are 3 people with it you will have a 30+- seconds major protection.
If you say the contrary...well i can only think that you run it
As I've said before I don't run it and I don't even have the skill unlocked to be able to use it because I don't run restro on my magic build. I've given you plenty of counters to try to help you with it so I guess I'll just leave it at that.
Stop giving your unvaluable opinion about a skill you have experienced only in half then. Run it, for some time, then come back
Unvaluable, lol! You said the problem was that people are unkillable that use the restro ult and since I have no problem killing them and do it daily I offered my advice based on actual experience to prove it's not an op ability and they are in fact killable!
For whatever reason you believe you should never have to adapt and if something kills you or is unkillable (to you only) then it must be nerfed. Thats not how it works.
I'm starting to understand why people just respond with the rude comments like L2P or git gud, because it's just not worth the time trying to type things out to help people that don't want to help themselves.
Nuff said, I have unkillable restro ult users to kill xD
As i said before, you experienced it in half. "Of CoUrSe you CaN KiLl Som0nE wItH rEstO UlTi". Thanks sherlock. Didn't know that. Go ahead. Kill someone while he is USING it. With a group. Wait. Do a 4v4 with 4 with resto ulties and 4 without, even better
I am talking about the ultimate being overperforming. And needs a balance. IF you think it's not. Probably you have no high perception
If you are going to start a post in a public forum about a perceived problem then you should expect people are going to try to help you with that problem or at least expect you to have some sort of proof or facts to back up your claim and/or offer solutions.
5 pages of saying it's over performing, needs a nerf, and you cant kill someone with major protection is just not true and doesn't help your case. I don't need high perception to see that.
If you want zos to consider changing it then you need a valid argument based on facts why it's over performing and be willing to offer solutions like cooldown, increase cost, lower heal, minor protection, etc.
According to the pts patch notes it doesn't look like it's getting changed any time soon so for the time being I would learn to adapt like everyone else already has. Maybe the other guy that agrees with you in this post can help you with your build since I'm just a scrub troll.
The argument is:
-Cost too little
-Heals too much for its cost
-Gives you too many major buffs for its cost
-Can be used by everyone in a group, thus can be used repitetly
-The group or the person becomes immoltal for 10 seconds.
That is broken. Bro-ken.
DEFENDING this ultimate is the last sign of dementia, nothing more, nothing less.
Insulting people doesn't help your case at all, but at least you added something to the conversation this time.
As far as cost, heals, and buffs goes it does offer quite a few benefits for the low cost. That I can agree with and maybe increasing the cost would help prevent people from spamming it. If the heals were to get reduced then the cost should stay low.
Being used repetitively by a group can be done with any ult making it over powered so to single out one ult because of a group working together is wrong. Best way to counter groups is with other groups not nerfing ults.
The part about the person being immortal for 10 seconds is just wrong. People can be easily killed while using this ability without needing a group.
I think adding a cooldown for all ults would be a good solution. Ultimates should offer great benefits, but they should not be able to be spammed. Last night I was able to do back to back destro ults and was able to take out 2 groups of players in less than 20 seconds. It was fun to take out 25+ ep and dc, but there should be a cooldown to prevent that from happening. Even a 30-60 second cooldown would help prevent spamming and make ults more balanced.
Since you are speaking to add a cooldown I guess you don't know what you are talking about. Ultimates have a cost, that's their cooldown.
And destro: they nerfed it
Back to the insults again lol. Obviously having an intelligent conversation is not an option. Good luck with your nerf restro crusade.
If you think that I am insulting you, you probably have never been insulted before. Which I don't know if it's sad or tilting
Are you serious right now?
He felt insulted. As i saw. By no means i would offend in a topic nor i did now. So. His falses accusations are not welcomeI meme, but my memes are so truthful they hurt
-Elder Nightblades Online
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DeHei✭✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »LMFAO There it is!!!!
I need to go find the PTS that has me stating the forum goer will call for the nerf
I disagree, but I called it!
Saying that is not overperforming is like saying that magicka templar doesn't heal.
The ult is good, but when you think this ult is overperformed, what do you think about the warden healing ult?
Maybe most guys should stop playing tanky builds in PvP to kill squishy builds like in the good old past time 1 or 2 years ago...DeHei - EP Magicka Templar AllrounderDe Hei(Youtube)0 -
DeHei✭✭✭✭✭And same guys flamed allready about templarhealingult... guys its not WoW here, every target has the ability to heal. So you need to have more sustain or pressure to kill targets!DeHei - EP Magicka Templar AllrounderDe Hei(Youtube)0
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✭✭✭✭✭@DeHei GD!!! I was purposely trying to avoid him realizing the Warden ult is practically the same! Darn you!!0 -
MercTheMage✭✭✭✭Its basicly like the Soul Siphoner ultimate (nb) on steroids, except it only costs about half the ultimate.
I say increase the cost by atleast 50, and nerf the burst heal somewhat.
are you on *** meth? that would put it at the same cost as the templar ult which it is not equal to.You just going to stand there like a lemon?2 -
DeHei✭✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »@DeHei GD!!! I was purposely trying to avoid him realizing the Warden ult is practically the same! Darn you!!
pssst, i would like to read his comment after realizing it
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✭Warden healing ultimate it's aoe. As i said can be: negated by 1 monster set and Sorc ultimate. People WON'T get MAJOR PROTECTION.I meme, but my memes are so truthful they hurt
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DeHei✭✭✭✭✭Warden healing ultimate it's aoe. As i said can be: negated by 1 monster set and Sorc ultimate. People WON'T get MAJOR PROTECTION.
ahahahahaha and thats why you say the costs of the healingstaffult must be much higher then this from warden?
AHAHAHAHAHA DeHei - EP Magicka Templar AllrounderDe Hei(Youtube)0 -
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Yes. Becouse it doesn't stick to a class, becouse is not negatable, becouse you can't outrange the ultimate becouse is not ground based. Take your fact straight.I meme, but my memes are so truthful they hurt
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