Restoration staff healing ultimate

Skander

Needs a "balance upgrade" aka nerf. It's overperforming

Waffennacht

LMFAO There it is!!!!

I need to go find the PTS that has me stating the forum goer will call for the nerf

I disagree, but I called it!

Skander

Waffennacht wrote: »

LMFAO There it is!!!!

I need to go find the PTS that has me stating the forum goer will call for the nerf

I disagree, but I called it!

Saying that is not overperforming is like saying that magicka templar doesn't heal.

Brutusmax1mus

Your dawn breaker is killing ppl. Its over performing.

Waffennacht

Skander wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

LMFAO There it is!!!!

I need to go find the PTS that has me stating the forum goer will call for the nerf

I disagree, but I called it!

Saying that is not overperforming is like saying that magicka templar doesn't heal.

Actually everyone wants to kill and hates coming across someone or something that makes that difficult, that's why every defensive set or skill gets the nerf cry.

People hate TTK increases. It's pretty lopsided

SanTii.92

It's been nerfed already, and it's overperforming as the shield one. So no, not really.

Skander

The main iusse people fail to see is: With a Healing ultimate i can be zerged down, but i won't die. Even if 4 people are hitting on me. Any other ultimate doesn't do this. Even the templar even ultimate (which got a nerf) can't do this. So. It's overperforming. A sorc with shields when he gets low can't just negate all my damage in a click. With a ceap ultimate. A templar in heavy can't just stay alive forever, becouse of this ultimate. It's just broken, who fails to admit it probably fails at the game.

Brutusmax1mus

Skander wrote: »

The main iusse people fail to see is: With a Healing ultimate i can be zerged down, but i won't die. Even if 4 people are hitting on me. Any other ultimate doesn't do this. Even the templar even ultimate (which got a nerf) can't do this. So. It's overperforming. A sorc with shields when he gets low can't just negate all my damage in a click. With a ceap ultimate. A templar in heavy can't just stay alive forever, becouse of this ultimate. It's just broken, who fails to admit it probably fails at the game.

I promise me a 3 of my friends could kill you using this ultimate.

Skander

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

The main iusse people fail to see is: With a Healing ultimate i can be zerged down, but i won't die. Even if 4 people are hitting on me. Any other ultimate doesn't do this. Even the templar even ultimate (which got a nerf) can't do this. So. It's overperforming. A sorc with shields when he gets low can't just negate all my damage in a click. With a ceap ultimate. A templar in heavy can't just stay alive forever, becouse of this ultimate. It's just broken, who fails to admit it probably fails at the game.

I promise me a 3 of my friends could kill you using this ultimate.

I bet you can't.

Waffennacht

Skander wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

The main iusse people fail to see is: With a Healing ultimate i can be zerged down, but i won't die. Even if 4 people are hitting on me. Any other ultimate doesn't do this. Even the templar even ultimate (which got a nerf) can't do this. So. It's overperforming. A sorc with shields when he gets low can't just negate all my damage in a click. With a ceap ultimate. A templar in heavy can't just stay alive forever, becouse of this ultimate. It's just broken, who fails to admit it probably fails at the game.

I promise me a 3 of my friends could kill you using this ultimate.

I bet you can't.

I got 5 bucks on the three players

SanTii.92

Skander wrote: »

The main iusse people fail to see is: With a Healing ultimate i can be zerged down, but i won't die. Even if 4 people are hitting on me. Any other ultimate doesn't do this. Even the templar even ultimate (which got a nerf) can't do this. So. It's overperforming. A sorc with shields when he gets low can't just negate all my damage in a click. With a ceap ultimate. A templar in heavy can't just stay alive forever, becouse of this ultimate. It's just broken, who fails to admit it probably fails at the game.

It only lasts 5 seconds, you just got to Cc/root the user so he burn some resource and don't waste yours, just letting him regen hp, doesn't really matter. And again, it's not all that different from shield or warden healing ult. Do you want to nerf those too? What then, nerf to dawnbreaker, soul assault and incap?

Brutusmax1mus

Skander wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

The main iusse people fail to see is: With a Healing ultimate i can be zerged down, but i won't die. Even if 4 people are hitting on me. Any other ultimate doesn't do this. Even the templar even ultimate (which got a nerf) can't do this. So. It's overperforming. A sorc with shields when he gets low can't just negate all my damage in a click. With a ceap ultimate. A templar in heavy can't just stay alive forever, becouse of this ultimate. It's just broken, who fails to admit it probably fails at the game.

I promise me a 3 of my friends could kill you using this ultimate.

I bet you can't.

It's only strong when the user is solo and receiving all the heals any way. So if it's 4v1 add they use it, line up your bust for 5 seconds....

Also, it's an ultimate..Do you whine when a damage dealing ultimate deals damage or kills you? (Probably) Do you cry over magma armor?? That literally makes someone unkillable. How about snb ultimate. You're hard to kill and reflect stuff!! Imba imba!

It is awesome for my small groups tho. I bet it's saved us as many times as we've killed using db together.

Skander

SanTii.92 wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

The main iusse people fail to see is: With a Healing ultimate i can be zerged down, but i won't die. Even if 4 people are hitting on me. Any other ultimate doesn't do this. Even the templar even ultimate (which got a nerf) can't do this. So. It's overperforming. A sorc with shields when he gets low can't just negate all my damage in a click. With a ceap ultimate. A templar in heavy can't just stay alive forever, becouse of this ultimate. It's just broken, who fails to admit it probably fails at the game.

It only lasts 5 seconds, you just got to Cc/root the user so he burn some resource and don't waste yours, just letting him regen hp, doesn't really matter. And again, it's not all that different from shield or warden healing ult. Do you want to nerf those too? What then, nerf to dawnbreaker, soul assault and incap?

It's 5 seconds of heals and major protection, then other 5 seconds of major protection. Total of 10 seconds of immortality. In a group, you won't die.

Skander

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

The main iusse people fail to see is: With a Healing ultimate i can be zerged down, but i won't die. Even if 4 people are hitting on me. Any other ultimate doesn't do this. Even the templar even ultimate (which got a nerf) can't do this. So. It's overperforming. A sorc with shields when he gets low can't just negate all my damage in a click. With a ceap ultimate. A templar in heavy can't just stay alive forever, becouse of this ultimate. It's just broken, who fails to admit it probably fails at the game.

I promise me a 3 of my friends could kill you using this ultimate.

I bet you can't.

It's only strong when the user is solo and receiving all the heals any way. So if it's 4v1 add they use it, line up your bust for 5 seconds....

Also, it's an ultimate..Do you whine when a damage dealing ultimate deals damage or kills you? (Probably) Do you cry over magma armor?? That literally makes someone unkillable. How about snb ultimate. You're hard to kill and reflect stuff!! Imba imba!

It is awesome for my small groups tho. I bet it's saved us as many times as we've killed using db together.

Magma armor doesn't buff your damage nor costs 100. Costs double. If the healing ultimate costed 200, it would have been fine. But is spammable.

Waffennacht

Skander wrote: »

SanTii.92 wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

The main iusse people fail to see is: With a Healing ultimate i can be zerged down, but i won't die. Even if 4 people are hitting on me. Any other ultimate doesn't do this. Even the templar even ultimate (which got a nerf) can't do this. So. It's overperforming. A sorc with shields when he gets low can't just negate all my damage in a click. With a ceap ultimate. A templar in heavy can't just stay alive forever, becouse of this ultimate. It's just broken, who fails to admit it probably fails at the game.

It only lasts 5 seconds, you just got to Cc/root the user so he burn some resource and don't waste yours, just letting him regen hp, doesn't really matter. And again, it's not all that different from shield or warden healing ult. Do you want to nerf those too? What then, nerf to dawnbreaker, soul assault and incap?

It's 5 seconds of heals and major protection, then other 5 seconds of major protection. Total of 10 seconds of immortality. In a group, you won't die.

I see what you mean, it can potentially trigger the second half if you receive that final tick.

In a group less likely for you to receive the final tick

Edit: so no more 1v4 immortality because of it though?

Skander

Waffennacht wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

SanTii.92 wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

The main iusse people fail to see is: With a Healing ultimate i can be zerged down, but i won't die. Even if 4 people are hitting on me. Any other ultimate doesn't do this. Even the templar even ultimate (which got a nerf) can't do this. So. It's overperforming. A sorc with shields when he gets low can't just negate all my damage in a click. With a ceap ultimate. A templar in heavy can't just stay alive forever, becouse of this ultimate. It's just broken, who fails to admit it probably fails at the game.

It only lasts 5 seconds, you just got to Cc/root the user so he burn some resource and don't waste yours, just letting him regen hp, doesn't really matter. And again, it's not all that different from shield or warden healing ult. Do you want to nerf those too? What then, nerf to dawnbreaker, soul assault and incap?

It's 5 seconds of heals and major protection, then other 5 seconds of major protection. Total of 10 seconds of immortality. In a group, you won't die.

I see what you mean, it can potentially trigger the second half if you receive that final tick.

In a group less likely for you to receive the final tick

Edit: so no more 1v4 immortality because of it though?

In a group you make other people being immortals, giving everyone who needs it a 5 seconds major protection.
In a 1v4 i can just pop it up, dps people, defend when it's finished. In a loop

Brutusmax1mus

Skander wrote: »

SanTii.92 wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

The main iusse people fail to see is: With a Healing ultimate i can be zerged down, but i won't die. Even if 4 people are hitting on me. Any other ultimate doesn't do this. Even the templar even ultimate (which got a nerf) can't do this. So. It's overperforming. A sorc with shields when he gets low can't just negate all my damage in a click. With a ceap ultimate. A templar in heavy can't just stay alive forever, becouse of this ultimate. It's just broken, who fails to admit it probably fails at the game.

It only lasts 5 seconds, you just got to Cc/root the user so he burn some resource and don't waste yours, just letting him regen hp, doesn't really matter. And again, it's not all that different from shield or warden healing ult. Do you want to nerf those too? What then, nerf to dawnbreaker, soul assault and incap?

It's 5 seconds of heals and major protection, then other 5 seconds of major protection. Total of 10 seconds of immortality. In a group, you won't die.

If youre in a group odds are it won't heal u 5 times. So say you get the first heal. You only get 1 heal, and 5 seconds off protection and crit dmg.

It's a smart heal, you're in a group, YOU who casted it may never even get healed or buffed in fact. How is that op?

Skander

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

SanTii.92 wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

The main iusse people fail to see is: With a Healing ultimate i can be zerged down, but i won't die. Even if 4 people are hitting on me. Any other ultimate doesn't do this. Even the templar even ultimate (which got a nerf) can't do this. So. It's overperforming. A sorc with shields when he gets low can't just negate all my damage in a click. With a ceap ultimate. A templar in heavy can't just stay alive forever, becouse of this ultimate. It's just broken, who fails to admit it probably fails at the game.

It only lasts 5 seconds, you just got to Cc/root the user so he burn some resource and don't waste yours, just letting him regen hp, doesn't really matter. And again, it's not all that different from shield or warden healing ult. Do you want to nerf those too? What then, nerf to dawnbreaker, soul assault and incap?

It's 5 seconds of heals and major protection, then other 5 seconds of major protection. Total of 10 seconds of immortality. In a group, you won't die.

If youre in a group odds are it won't heal u 5 times. So say you get the first heal. You only get 1 heal, and 5 seconds off protection and crit dmg.

It's a smart heal, you're in a group, YOU who casted it may never even get healed or buffed in fact. How is that op?

If you are using it on a group, it's becouse YOU need it. You'll get 3-2 tick of heals and 7-8 seconds on protection, deleting EVERY effort made by the players to kill you

Waffennacht

Skander wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

SanTii.92 wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

The main iusse people fail to see is: With a Healing ultimate i can be zerged down, but i won't die. Even if 4 people are hitting on me. Any other ultimate doesn't do this. Even the templar even ultimate (which got a nerf) can't do this. So. It's overperforming. A sorc with shields when he gets low can't just negate all my damage in a click. With a ceap ultimate. A templar in heavy can't just stay alive forever, becouse of this ultimate. It's just broken, who fails to admit it probably fails at the game.

It only lasts 5 seconds, you just got to Cc/root the user so he burn some resource and don't waste yours, just letting him regen hp, doesn't really matter. And again, it's not all that different from shield or warden healing ult. Do you want to nerf those too? What then, nerf to dawnbreaker, soul assault and incap?

It's 5 seconds of heals and major protection, then other 5 seconds of major protection. Total of 10 seconds of immortality. In a group, you won't die.

If youre in a group odds are it won't heal u 5 times. So say you get the first heal. You only get 1 heal, and 5 seconds off protection and crit dmg.

It's a smart heal, you're in a group, YOU who casted it may never even get healed or buffed in fact. How is that op?

If you are using it on a group, it's becouse YOU need it. You'll get 3-2 tick of heals and 7-8 seconds on protection, deleting EVERY effort made by the players to kill you

And then you'll heal with the first tick, really doubt after that heal you'll be lower than anyone else in your group.

It's a very good Ult, but I wouldn't consider it OP.

Plus, every time you use a healing ult, that means -
No destro ult
No SA
No Leap, Thicket, Incap, etc etc

Skander

Waffennacht wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

SanTii.92 wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

The main iusse people fail to see is: With a Healing ultimate i can be zerged down, but i won't die. Even if 4 people are hitting on me. Any other ultimate doesn't do this. Even the templar even ultimate (which got a nerf) can't do this. So. It's overperforming. A sorc with shields when he gets low can't just negate all my damage in a click. With a ceap ultimate. A templar in heavy can't just stay alive forever, becouse of this ultimate. It's just broken, who fails to admit it probably fails at the game.

It only lasts 5 seconds, you just got to Cc/root the user so he burn some resource and don't waste yours, just letting him regen hp, doesn't really matter. And again, it's not all that different from shield or warden healing ult. Do you want to nerf those too? What then, nerf to dawnbreaker, soul assault and incap?

It's 5 seconds of heals and major protection, then other 5 seconds of major protection. Total of 10 seconds of immortality. In a group, you won't die.

If youre in a group odds are it won't heal u 5 times. So say you get the first heal. You only get 1 heal, and 5 seconds off protection and crit dmg.

It's a smart heal, you're in a group, YOU who casted it may never even get healed or buffed in fact. How is that op?

If you are using it on a group, it's becouse YOU need it. You'll get 3-2 tick of heals and 7-8 seconds on protection, deleting EVERY effort made by the players to kill you

And then you'll heal with the first tick, really doubt after that heal you'll be lower than anyone else in your group.

It's a very good Ult, but I wouldn't consider it OP.

Plus, every time you use a healing ult, that means -
No destro ult
No SA
No Leap, Thicket, Incap, etc etc

You will get more then one heal, if you use it correctly. And every other ult that mitiguates damage, proctects you, gives you heals are costwise 200+. The snb ultimate i don't take it in place becouse it's only for yourself, doesn't heal you, just mitiguates damage.
In a 1v4, you get immortality for 10 seconds with bonus on crits.
on a group vs group. You are immortal, the efforts of the other group fade into the aetherius, you still get the bonus buff. For a 100 cost ulti.

SanTii.92

Skander wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

SanTii.92 wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

The main iusse people fail to see is: With a Healing ultimate i can be zerged down, but i won't die. Even if 4 people are hitting on me. Any other ultimate doesn't do this. Even the templar even ultimate (which got a nerf) can't do this. So. It's overperforming. A sorc with shields when he gets low can't just negate all my damage in a click. With a ceap ultimate. A templar in heavy can't just stay alive forever, becouse of this ultimate. It's just broken, who fails to admit it probably fails at the game.

It only lasts 5 seconds, you just got to Cc/root the user so he burn some resource and don't waste yours, just letting him regen hp, doesn't really matter. And again, it's not all that different from shield or warden healing ult. Do you want to nerf those too? What then, nerf to dawnbreaker, soul assault and incap?

It's 5 seconds of heals and major protection, then other 5 seconds of major protection. Total of 10 seconds of immortality. In a group, you won't die.

If youre in a group odds are it won't heal u 5 times. So say you get the first heal. You only get 1 heal, and 5 seconds off protection and crit dmg.

It's a smart heal, you're in a group, YOU who casted it may never even get healed or buffed in fact. How is that op?

If you are using it on a group, it's becouse YOU need it. You'll get 3-2 tick of heals and 7-8 seconds on protection, deleting EVERY effort made by the players to kill you

Dude, we play the game you know. And what you describe it just doens't happen. Why, because there are also other strong ultis. Give it up.

Skander

SanTii.92 wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

SanTii.92 wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

The main iusse people fail to see is: With a Healing ultimate i can be zerged down, but i won't die. Even if 4 people are hitting on me. Any other ultimate doesn't do this. Even the templar even ultimate (which got a nerf) can't do this. So. It's overperforming. A sorc with shields when he gets low can't just negate all my damage in a click. With a ceap ultimate. A templar in heavy can't just stay alive forever, becouse of this ultimate. It's just broken, who fails to admit it probably fails at the game.

It only lasts 5 seconds, you just got to Cc/root the user so he burn some resource and don't waste yours, just letting him regen hp, doesn't really matter. And again, it's not all that different from shield or warden healing ult. Do you want to nerf those too? What then, nerf to dawnbreaker, soul assault and incap?

It's 5 seconds of heals and major protection, then other 5 seconds of major protection. Total of 10 seconds of immortality. In a group, you won't die.

If youre in a group odds are it won't heal u 5 times. So say you get the first heal. You only get 1 heal, and 5 seconds off protection and crit dmg.

It's a smart heal, you're in a group, YOU who casted it may never even get healed or buffed in fact. How is that op?

If you are using it on a group, it's becouse YOU need it. You'll get 3-2 tick of heals and 7-8 seconds on protection, deleting EVERY effort made by the players to kill you

Dude, we play the game you know. And what you describe it just doens't happen. Why, because there are also other strong ultis. Give it up.

Doesn't happen to you. Any competent player knows how to use it tho.

olsborg

Its basicly like the Soul Siphoner ultimate (nb) on steroids, except it only costs about half the ultimate.

I say increase the cost by atleast 50, and nerf the burst heal somewhat.

Minno

olsborg wrote: »

Its basicly like the Soul Siphoner ultimate (nb) on steroids, except it only costs about half the ultimate.

I say increase the cost by atleast 50, and nerf the burst heal somewhat.

And while we are at it, similar treatment for the snb ulti.

WuffyCerulei

It's prefectly fine and dandy. It's actually a life-saver in BGs, but it doesn't overperform at all. You can still get killed by a group if you're by yourself.

Skander

WuffyCerulei wrote: »

It's prefectly fine and dandy. It's actually a life-saver in BGs, but it doesn't overperform at all. You can still get killed by a group if you're by yourself.

In those 10 seconds, is most unlikely

Waffennacht

Skander wrote: »

WuffyCerulei wrote: »

It's prefectly fine and dandy. It's actually a life-saver in BGs, but it doesn't overperform at all. You can still get killed by a group if you're by yourself.

In those 10 seconds, is most unlikely

Let's just say you're right.

Then right @#$_ing after you're dead lmao

Brutusmax1mus

Thicket, now there's an op heal for area healing.

Brutusmax1mus

Just let this thread die btw

Skander

Waffennacht wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

WuffyCerulei wrote: »

It's prefectly fine and dandy. It's actually a life-saver in BGs, but it doesn't overperform at all. You can still get killed by a group if you're by yourself.

In those 10 seconds, is most unlikely

Let's just say you're right.

Then right @#$_ing after you're dead lmao

True, but there is always the variable to get your friend to aid you. Or kill the frakers in the meatime. 10 seconds are a lot.

Waffennacht

Skander wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

WuffyCerulei wrote: »

It's prefectly fine and dandy. It's actually a life-saver in BGs, but it doesn't overperform at all. You can still get killed by a group if you're by yourself.

In those 10 seconds, is most unlikely

Let's just say you're right.

Then right @#$_ing after you're dead lmao

True, but there is always the variable to get your friend to aid you. Or kill the frakers in the meatime. 10 seconds are a lot.

That's the point man, it has a use, but not OP. The fact you have to use a resto staff is another reason why you don't see it on every build. It won't win you the match, but it can make a difference - as any good Ult should.

The smart Healing can screw you over too. Nothing like healing a level 39 in a BG when you need it now lol